Summer 2021: Moans, Groans, Ramps and Banter

[davehsug]

2 hours ago, mb018538 said:

I'd probably contact the Met Office about it to be honest. Might be a new cloud formation or something. I've yet to see it anyway!

It turned out to be a very short-lived event, whatever it was. A uniform grey again now and, of course, it's raining on another "dry" day.

[Nick L]

1 hour ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

Yep. This will be the 5th consecutive Saturday of utter puke by me. Yesterday BBC weather said Saturday dry but rain later in the evening. Now it just says bands of rain and showers all day and the temp downgraded from a half decent 22c to cold 19c. RUBBISH.

The rain has gradually been brought in earlier and earlier. Typical. It'll be over us all by lunchtime at this rate. 

[mb018538]

On 19/08/2021 at 10:52, Sunny76 said:

If the Nino returns in 2022, that will probably mean a better summer with more heat, but winter 2022/23 will be a stinky mild one.

However, I will settle for a very mild winter during 22/23, if we get a nice hot sunny summer next year.

More than likely, odds on for a mild fest....

NDJ 1986 27.70 1.22
DJF 1987 27.76 1.23
JFM1987 27.95 1.19

...but a quick look back at the numbers for 1987 shows a strong El Nino in that winter, and we all know what happened in January!

 

[Wimbledon88]

1 hour ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

Yep. This will be the 5th consecutive Saturday of utter puke by me. Yesterday BBC weather said Saturday dry but rain later in the evening. Now it just says bands of rain and showers all day and the temp downgraded from a half decent 22c to cold 19c. RUBBISH.

I've sometimes wondered what Dudley must look like on a wet day.

[MP-R]

17 minutes ago, Nick L said:

The rain has gradually been brought in earlier and earlier. Typical. It'll be over us all by lunchtime at this rate. 

If it could speed up a bit more and clear before the afternoon that would be dandy 

[Nick L]

22 minutes ago, Wimbledon88 said:

I've sometimes wondered what Dudley must look like on a wet day.

Even more Dudley-er.

[Atmogenic]

the sun THE SUN IS OUT 

[Guest]

Fifth day with drizzle, new levels of crapiness. 

[stainesbloke]

Crap over here, too, with grey grot, a strong wind and an underwhelming 21°C. 

[markyo]

Yep i was right, there is vastly more moaning in the Summer thread than the Winter one!....very interesting.

[NEVES SCREAMER]

45 minutes ago, Wimbledon88 said:

I've sometimes wondered what Dudley must look like on a wet day.

It looks awful on a sunny day......

[TwisterGirl81]

3 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

It looks awful on a sunny day......

   omg ha ha 

Is your name in reference to the Scream films? :)

[NEVES SCREAMER]

26 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:

   omg ha ha 

Is your name in reference to the Scream films?

No. Sadly it is nothing as great as that. I am a fan of Wolverhampton Wanderers FC and one of our players is called Ruben NEVES who has been known to score the occasional goal known as a SCREAMER. Or a jolly good long range shot in to the top corner of the goal. Hope this helps! 

[TwisterGirl81]

Just now, NEVES SCREAMER said:

No. Sadly it is nothing as great as that. I am a fan of Wolverhampton Wanderers FC and one of our players is called Ruben NEVES who has been known to score the occasional goal known as a SCREAMER. Or a jolly good long range shot in to the top corner of the goal. Hope this helps! 

Oh ok

[summer blizzard]

I would strongly advise that you ignore ENSO forecasts more than a few months ahead. They are overly sensitive.

[summer blizzard]

1 hour ago, mb018538 said:

More than likely, odds on for a mild fest....

NDJ 1986 27.70 1.22
DJF 1987 27.76 1.23
JFM1987 27.95 1.19

...but a quick look back at the numbers for 1987 shows a strong El Nino in that winter, and we all know what happened in January!

 

One can never simply take an ENSO state as good or bad and it's important to remember that we got both Jan 10 and Dec 10 from opposite ENSO states.

Generally speaking my preferred outlook is a weak La Nina in combination with a -QBO and -PDO or a moderate EL NIno in combination with a -QBO and neutral PDO.

Weak El Nino runs too much risk of enhancing the energy available without forcing enough heat transport to generate a SSW (moderate Nino's produce standing waves to achieve that heat transport SSW or not. That enhanced energy without sufficient heat transport can produce some abysmal winters for us. 

Weak La Nina and -QBO is generally a safe pattern even without a SSW because the default pattern is a blocked one regardless of whether that blocking makes it to high lattitudes so we at least get a dry pattern (winter 06 being an extreme example).

[Wimbledon88]

27 minutes ago, summer blizzard said:

I would strongly advise that you ignore ENSO forecasts more than a few months ahead. They are overly sensitive.

A bit like some of the posters on this site then.  

[Kentspur]

Clear blue skies here in NW Kent virtually. Terrible forecasts, would love to know which models actually forecast this. Some went for light patchy rain and others I saw were going for a very cloudy day. But this is now in Dartford...

[NEVES SCREAMER]

Just had a look at Met Office for Saturday in Dudley. Now showing 12 hours of rain from 7am until clearance to heavy showers at 7pm. With a balmy max of 17c.Another Saturday special.cant wait.

[Nick L]

53 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

No. Sadly it is nothing as great as that. I am a fan of Wolverhampton Wanderers FC and one of our players is called Ruben NEVES who has been known to score the occasional goal known as a SCREAMER. Or a jolly good long range shot in to the top corner of the goal. Hope this helps! 

Still couldn't beat us last season though

(Boing Boing)

For all my moaning, today is genuinely quite nice. Afternoon sat in the garden it is I think!

[Nick L]

2 hours ago, Nick L said:

The rain has gradually been brought in earlier and earlier. Typical. It'll be over us all by lunchtime at this rate. 

Hahaha the 06z EC has done just that, arriving here in Bucks by around 1pm.

[stainesbloke]

1 hour ago, markyo said:

Yep i was right, there is vastly more moaning in the Summer thread than the Winter one!....very interesting.

Interesting for whom? And are you surprised? I still don’t agree with you, despite the summer horror show that many have endured 

[NEVES SCREAMER]

15 minutes ago, Nick L said:

Still couldn't beat us last season though

(Boing Boing)

For all my moaning, today is genuinely quite nice. Afternoon sat in the garden it is I think!

Blimey. A West Bromwich Albion fan in Buckinghamshire. You must miss Sandwell so much (tongue firmly  in cheek there) !  

[Nick L]

55 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:

Blimey. A West Bromwich Albion fan in Buckinghamshire. You must miss Sandwell so much (tongue firmly  in cheek there) !  

From Cannock actually. Dingle central! It's just as snowless and even more stormless down here 

[markyo]

1 hour ago, stainesbloke said:

despite the summer horror show that many have endured 

I would say calling this Summer a horror show for many northern parts may be pushing it a fair bit. On the whole its not been bad with plenty sunshine and reasonable temps. No weeks of heatwave i agree but this is the UK, we have had a normal summer in many places.