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  • Location: Bratislava (240m)
  • Location: Bratislava (240m)

    24C locally yesterday, making it a tad warmer than Tuesday. One more very warm day to come before temperatures start to fall away. The latest ECM is showing 3C and snow at day 5-6. We'll see! 

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    Yes indeed. It gets forgotten that there are people who view and partake of this site who are actually also ordinary members of the public and not just 'weather enthusiasts'.  Its good to be a weather

    A couple of the views from my flat today:

    I oft said, during the time I was a regular poster in this forum, that the the words 'upgrade' and 'downgrade' should be placed in the swear filter sine die. They are subjective and superfluous and in

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  • Location: Ludgershall, Wiltshire
  • Location: Ludgershall, Wiltshire
    7 minutes ago, Quicksilver1989 said:

    Quite a remarkable 18z run there, just keeping us in cold air throughout. I worked out the CET would be at 4.06C by the 15th. If that came off, it would be the coldest first half to April since 1917 (which was a remarkable 2.65C at halfway).

    Only 1917, 1837, 1784, 1816 and 1839 have had colder first halves. This run is probably amongst the very coldest of the ensemble pack. The northerly early next week is nailed on. The question is whether we see a gradual return to normal temperatures or a second dip at the weekend. EC has been hinting at this too but it could easily just revert to something more benign.

    Either way, next week will be a shock to the system! An additional side note, the start to this April looks very very similar to what we saw in 1968, which had a very warm end to March also.

    I can't help but feel that in reality, although next week is now likely to be cold, it probably won't be anything out of the ordinary.  We have seen plenty of sensational charts so far this year (and plenty of other recent years for that matter), which get watered down as the event draws closer.

    An interesting point you make about 1968.  Gavin Partridge illustrated on his video today that the warm setup at the end of March 1968 and what followed in early April is virtually identical to this year (as per current model output)!

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  • Location: N.E. Scotland South Side Moray Firth 100m asl
  • Location: N.E. Scotland South Side Moray Firth 100m asl
    10 minutes ago, Quicksilver1989 said:

    Quite a remarkable 18z run there, just keeping us in cold air throughout. I worked out the CET would be at 4.06C by the 15th. If that came off, it would be the coldest first half to April since 1917 (which was a remarkable 2.65C at halfway).

    Only 1917, 1837, 1784, 1816 and 1839 have had colder first halves. This run is probably amongst the very coldest of the ensemble pack. The northerly early next week is nailed on. The question is whether we see a gradual return to normal temperatures or a second dip at the weekend. EC has been hinting at this too but it could easily just revert to something more benign.

    Either way, next week will be a shock to the system! An additional side note, the start to this April looks very very similar to what we saw in 1968, which had a very warm end to March also.

     I have quoted  April1968 quite a few times in the Scottish thread as it is an abiding memory with sowing half a field of spring barley before a few weeks of snow cover which after the snow melted was green underneath it before we got back to sow the other half. This year we are 90% sown with just one field after neeps to sow and I am thinking it might be at least two weeks away before we get to it so all the rest should be green by then.Can be a big difference of temperature between the top and bottom of a snow blanket.

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  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and sun in winter; warm and bright otherwise; not a big storm fan
  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl

    Finding myself distinctly cheesed off with the forecast from Monday onwards. I quite like April snow on occasion, but not when it's a week or more of chill. Been enjoying being outdoors more for the last week or two, looking forward to the 12th... and now it feels like an endurance test before we get back to something warm enough to sit out in without a winter coat. I've had enough endurance tests over the last year, thank you!

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  • Location: Ludgershall, Wiltshire
  • Location: Ludgershall, Wiltshire
    5 minutes ago, Arctic Hare said:

    Finding myself distinctly cheesed off with the forecast from Monday onwards. I quite like April snow on occasion, but not when it's a week or more of chill. Been enjoying being outdoors more for the last week or two, looking forward to the 12th... and now it feels like an endurance test before we get back to something warm enough to sit out in without a winter coat. I've had enough endurance tests over the last year, thank you!

    I really wouldn't worry too much at this stage.  I doubt the cold will last a week or more and it will be different come April 12th!

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  • Location: Andover, Hampshire
  • Location: Andover, Hampshire

    Time to take a break from the model thread for a week or two and try to get through this revolting spell of weather with my sanity intact. 

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  • Location: Between Sidmouth and Exeter
  • Location: Between Sidmouth and Exeter

    23.4C at the Met Office station in Bude on Monday. That's quite impressive for North Cornwall in March. Mind you it reached 25.3C there on the 10th April last year under a similar set up (ESE flow that comes over Dartmoor). 

    In contrast Swanage on the Dorset coast saw a 12.7C max.

    18.6C here, cooler as usual near the south coast but still very nice. Yesterday had high cloud until mid afternoon with a 16.4C max

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  • Location: Bournemouth
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, Very Warm, Warm! Sunshine & TS
  • Location: Bournemouth
    16 minutes ago, Azazel said:

    Time to take a break from the model thread for a week or two and try to get through this revolting spell of weather with my sanity intact. 

    Same, I know we are all different but after months of cold and dark I just don’t understand how so many a relishing the thought of it being 8 in the evening, being light and snowing......it just repulsed me...

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  • Location: North Newbald , East Riding of Yorkshire 139 f asl
  • Location: North Newbald , East Riding of Yorkshire 139 f asl

    Go away Winter ...... I really don’t care for snow in April ( and I’m a huge snow lover ) 
    I was just getting used to 20 °C and tennis !!!

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  • Location: Bournemouth
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, Very Warm, Warm! Sunshine & TS
  • Location: Bournemouth

    So close to another super day, already 18c in jersey, nowhere on the mainland above 13c.

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  • Location: Near Walsall, West Midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Cold in winter, cool in summer
  • Location: Near Walsall, West Midlands

    Nice to see some cooler weather again for the next few days.  I know a lot of people hate cold weather at this time of year but I hate the warm any time of year!

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  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire

    Winter had its chance in winter, can do one now.

    Even the warm weather over the last few days has turned into a cloudfest.

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  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
  • Weather Preferences: obviously snow!
  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
    16 minutes ago, Nick L said:

    Winter had its chance in winter, can do one now.

    Even the warm weather over the last few days has turned into a cloudfest.

    Aye but winter hardly arrives Dec to Feb, jet stream too strong, PV over Greenie, now all that much weaker and sea temps colder

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  • Location: N.E. Scotland South Side Moray Firth 100m asl
  • Location: N.E. Scotland South Side Moray Firth 100m asl

    I for one am delighted to see a bit of snow in April as it reminds me of springs up here in the sixties when snow was fairly common. Its just the climate and seasons returning to a bit of normality inn my opinion because  of greatly reduced worldwide land and air pollution.Also as said sea temperatures are at their lowest now and a good bit of Scotland is closer to the Arctic circle than Moscow and with the frequency too of N and E winds at their highest in spring and early summer then snow was always on the cards.

    Ben More in Sutherland is solid  white down to 2000 feet this morning and it was 0c down  here at 6.00am

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  • Location: Kent,Ashford
  • Weather Preferences: Love heat & thunderstorms, but despise Winter
  • Location: Kent,Ashford

    The last 3 days were brilliant, though yesterday could've been better if the cloud wasn't there but still pleasant, but now its April 1st (April fools) nature has decided to April Fools us showing more wretched cold charts. Those are for late November, December, January, February and early march not for April. People are getting excited for snow? it's April, April is a spring month, when u stand in the sun you can FEEL the warmth and you expect snow? no all we'll get is awful cold winds and a chill in the air and that's better than what we've just had? I know April is the coocoo month not knowing what to do but snow no way. 

     

    since the 00's climate change has done a lot to our weather and that's mainly with record high temperatures and as we proceed with this century we almost break record high temperatures every year but i'm not saying cold weather will never happened but with the month we're in now..

    is snow possibly with the current charts over at the model discussion? yes it is but mainly the further north u go.

    could u see some snowflakes farther south. maybe but it would be very isolated

    Would it be worth it? no way, although the sun isn't at maximum strength , any break through in the clouds or no clouds at all will melt that snow and it will be gone in an hour or two

     

    other than snow all other elements are awful and you want that? 🤔

     

    p.s if titles were allowed i would actually call myself grumpy sod who despises cold weather

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  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres
  • Location: Sedgley Black country 731ft 222 metres

    will judging by the 6z  next week is a total right off  if you want to potter about in the garden   cold  snow  and a bitter wind chill.  

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  • Location: Burton-on-Trent
  • Location: Burton-on-Trent

    Feel sick knowing whats about to come. Wish I could hibernate for a couple of weeks.

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl

    We has cold shots early April 2012, 2013 and late 2016, not unusual for April to bring a cold northerly, indeed I always expect one. Sometimes not of a significant nature, other times significant as this one will be.

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  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and sun in winter; warm and bright otherwise; not a big storm fan
  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl

    Sure, it's not rare to get a cold snap/spell in April. I just particularly didn't want one this April! A repeat of 2020 was always going to be too much to ask, but mid-teens and quiet would have done fine. Even Atlantic sunshine and beefy showers would be preferable (for me) to days on end of cold when IMBY at least it's never going to be more than rather pointless transient snow at best. (Well, not unless there's a repeat of the incredible late April 1981 snowstorm, but even the current charts don't suggest that!)

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  • Location: Derbyshire
  • Location: Derbyshire

    With the exception of Sunday, the forecast is one of bleakest I’ve ever seen in April. I reckon April 2021 will be a cold one throughout, possibly into May too. Hopefully we’ll be in for a hot summer instead.

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  • Location: Bedfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: Warm summers with thunderstorms, stormy or fog/frost autumns, cold winters
  • Location: Bedfordshire
    6 hours ago, Alderc said:

    Same, I know we are all different but after months of cold and dark I just don’t understand how so many a relishing the thought of it being 8 in the evening, being light and snowing......it just repulsed me...

    I agree. But it probably won't even snow for the majority of us. Not in any significant way anyway. There might be a little bit of snow falling in one or two of the showers. Scotland, NI and also Northern and Welsh hills might do 'well' for snow. Some coldies in the model thread are getting their hopes up. That's NEVER happened before of course! 😁

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  • Location: Bedfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: Warm summers with thunderstorms, stormy or fog/frost autumns, cold winters
  • Location: Bedfordshire
    2 hours ago, Snowy L said:

    Feel sick knowing whats about to come. Wish I could hibernate for a couple of weeks.

    Monday and Tuesday look utterly foul. But GFS and ECM op runs are, again, near the coldest in terms of forecast upper temps next week so it might not turn out that bad where you live for beyond Tuesday. Too early to say at this range of course. 

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