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It's busy right now, so please ensure you only post about the model output in this thread. 
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  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
  • Weather Preferences: obviously snow!
  • Location: Wildwood, Stafford 104m asl
Just now, Frosty Winter said:

ECM 12z at t144 looks good. The Atlantic is struggling here!

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could it be like GEM? with the Atlantic not making it past Ireland/Wales

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  • Location: Cardiff, Wales
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunder & Lightning, Thundersnow, Storms, Heatwave
  • Location: Cardiff, Wales

Comparing ECM 120 to ydays 144 is a lovely sight. Better wedge to our north west, low less of a bowling ball and further west. Regardless of what follows on this run, good to see the ECM moving in this direction as Wednesday/Thurs has crept a day closer on the modelling.

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
1 minute ago, ICE COLD said:

T144 is it good @nick sussex @bluearmy?? 

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I expected a better day 6 chart from its day 5 . It’s better than the GFS but more energy needs to go se.

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  • Location: Coventry
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Coventry
4 minutes ago, Man Without Beard said:

Ecm T144 ... I don't think this low is going to get here?

My forecast from earlier might need binning...

I agree. I keep thinking back to how powerful the 2018 beast was when it pushed through so quickly. Now its got some resistance I think we will see it stall the low fully but where..... 

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  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
3 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

I expected a better day 6 chart from its day 5 . It’s better than the GFS but more energy needs to go se.

Actually I preferred it. Gives more chance for heights to build north and suck in more cold air from the east!

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  • Location: st albans
  • Location: st albans
4 minutes ago, Man Without Beard said:

Ecm T144 ... I don't think this low is going to get here?

My forecast from earlier might need binning...

On the negative side, the ingestion of the warm runner into the Atlantic trough re invigorates it at a time when it could have disrupted se without that 

on the plus side, the Atlantic trough has lost contact with the upstream n American vortex which maintained linkage on the previous run 

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  • Location: newent glos. 50 metres asl
  • Location: newent glos. 50 metres asl

After ten years without posting much. Ecm you naughty boy. Great 144 chart for prolonging the cold.

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
Just now, Man Without Beard said:

Actually I preferred it. Gives more chance for heights to build north and suck in more cold air from the east!

With more energy going se you’d have an even better day 6 and 7 as the high would be further north . But still not bad , the cold is hanging on .

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

Well the milder 850s might get in, eventually, however surfaces winds look more likely to be more southerly and off the continent as the ridge amplifies strongly close to the UK so conditions should remain cold at the surface.

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progress from here could go in multiple directions, some dry and fine, some more beastly...

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  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea
  • Weather Preferences: Warm, bright summers and Cold, snowy winters
  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea

Well the 168 chart could have been a lot better but that's FI and I'm not worried as the early trend is fantastic.

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  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.

Ecm vs gfs T+168

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