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I wonder how significant this could be in the short term. Potentially a significant breakthrough if it works Coronavirus: New treatment for critically ill patients to begin as soon as next week

An appeal to people to remember you are reading posts from people you do not know, you do not know the background of and do not know their motivations - on a weather forum.  If there are concerns

Yes Matt , I opened my store at 5:45 this morning and left at 8pm this evening , I’m back at 5:45 and walking in to a shell of a shop with new deliveries coming , Having people tell me why I bother op

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  • Location: Darlington
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  • Location: Darlington

    The RHS have cancelled all shows up to and including June 30th

    The following shows as a result are off

    RHS London Spring Launch & Orchid Show, 7th-8th April 
    RHS London Botanical Art and Photography Show, 17th-18th April 
    RHS Cardiff, 17th-19th April
    RHS Malvern, 7th–10th May 
    RHS Chelsea, 19th–23rd May
    RHS Chatsworth, 11th–14th June

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    The government don't know and ICL can model data all night long but they won't accurately know either.

    Let's implement the next phase of lockdown and make people realise how serious this is.

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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
    13 hours ago, shuggee said:

    An appeal to people to remember you are reading posts from people you do not know, you do not know the background of and do not know their motivations - on a weather forum. 

    If there are concerns about you or loved ones dial 111, look at NHS websites and seek professional advice.

    Sound advice, and can't be overstated. I am happy to talk about all things virology on this forum. It is extremely interesting and beneficial. The more we can learn about this virus, and viruses in general, can only be helpful.

    However, I would say to anyone that I cannot give personal medical advice, unless very very basic and vague. This would be unwise, and immoral. I do not have your medical history, your lifestyle details, your general health, and I am not in contact with you.

    For anything about your own personal health, it is imperative you see your own GP. Indeed, the majority of those with this virus will present mildly and not need a GP, but if you do have more severe symptoms, or preexisting medical conditions that place you at higher risk, you MUST see your own GP and not look for advice on the net.



     

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  • Location: Tottenham, N London
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  • Location: Tottenham, N London
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    Airports could be ordered to close and people detained on public health grounds under government plans.

    The emergency legislation is expected to be passed Thursday and includes:

    (It's worth noting that a lot of these measures will only be implemented in the worst case scenario!)

    • Registration of recently retired staff and final year medical students
    • Providing legal protection for NHS staff in cases of covid-19-related clinical negligence
    • Reducing paperwork
    • Reducing regulation surrounding mental health services 
    • Delaying assessments of discharged patients
    • Removing vaccination restrictions in Scotland
    • Enabling local authorities to priorities social care services they offer to meet the most urgent needs
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    • Requiring schools/childcare providers to stay open or to close
    • Temporarily closing ports/airports if staffing numbers drop
    • Restricting events & gatherings in any place or on any type of transport
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    • Conducting court hearings by video/audio link
    • Allowing temporary judicial commissioners to be appointed
    • Enabling authorities to temporarily detain people suspected of being infected to enable proper assessment
    • Postponing elections
    • Providing statutory sick pay on day 1 of missed work
    • Reimbursing employers with <250 employees for statutory sick pay
    • Requiring food suppliers to share information

    Full details here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-bill-what-it-will-do/what-the-coronavirus-bill-will-do

     

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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.

    Was a very very busy day today. Only got back just now.

    Will read everything from today and reply to anything of note.

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  • Location: Colchester, Essex, UK (33m ASL)
  • Location: Colchester, Essex, UK (33m ASL)

    There is somewhat of a reason for shortages is to do with a huge supply chain shift though, away from workplaces, hotels and restaurants.

    Many people who may normally eat out for work and leisure, perhaps two or three main meals a week on take out or at say Hungry Horse, Toby's etc are now eating at home. The lunch time food got at the food outlets in town or London and other cities are now at home too with more being told to reduce travel or workplaces shutting down.

    It's no one's fault in that regard, gradually the supply chain will adjust and stock begins to go more to retail supermarkets than commercial food outlets, restaurants and takeaways.

    My local shop has now started selling large commercial toilet rolls from the wholesaler as they have loads which would normally have been sold to commercial properties but not currently buying as closing or little custom.

    Perhaps shop managers could have been a little quicker in introducing limits at the beginning in light of other places in the world eg Australia,experiencing odd supermarket buying patterns, but I guess no one expected the idiots stockpiling 40+ packs of 12 roll toilet rolls and 150 tins of beans! It's selfish, greedy and inconsiderate.

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  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
  • Location: Drayton, Portsmouth
    4 minutes ago, matty007 said:

    Was a very very busy day today. Only got back just now.

    Will read everything from today and reply to anything of note.

    Busy because of the coronavirus? 

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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
    3 minutes ago, Man With Beard said:

    Busy because of the coronavirus? 

    Thankfully not. But I am afraid more people with quite mild symptoms are attending. While I understand people are concerned, this will only spread the virus further, and place more strain.

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    35 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

    As a number of you know from the now defunct uk politics thread, and by a number of posts by me in here last few weeks, i'm normally a bit of a cocky, sometimes arrogant chap, although privately amongst my friends and family i'm a little less like that.

    Well, this blimin' virus tragedy unfolding has really knocked me. It has shook society to the bone, esp across mainland Europe;

    here in the UK i think our worst (sorry to say this) is yet to come. The next few weeks especially will make people re-evaluate their lives, i believe. Suspect the next week, 10 days will give the UK a clear view to which direction we're heading in terms of serious cases and deaths. 

    Stay safe and well.

    Regarding all the anxiety out there. I totally understand everyone's worries, and this is clearly going to affect a lot of people, and could for a while yet. Certain aspects of life will change, some for a short term, and some for the long term, but everyone needs to do their best in their own personal circumstances, and over come it as best they can.

    Just think of life during WW2. Not knowing if your house was going to be bombed, not knowing if your friends will have made it through the night and be at work the next day, not knowing if your work building will even be there the next day. Then there's the rationing, the families of the armed forces, not only worrying about being bombed themselves, but worrying if your husband/son/brother will make it through another day on the frontline. Then there's the worry of is it all worth it? Early years, and even to a point the later years of WW2, thinking, is all this stiff upper lip worth it, if jerry is just gonna come marching down the street and shoot us all (bare in mind, people had no way of knowing if they'd win or not, seeing as Britain was really all that was left standing). Plus the countless other worries to deal with. As a personal example, my gran was simply walking down the street with a friend, and they got strafed by a 109. They werent hit, but just imagine simply going out to the shops and not knowing if you will live or die.

    Add on: Also not forgetting all the occupied countries as well. People being shot left right and centre, people scared of going out, everyone looking over their shoulder.....

    I'm not saying this to belittle anyone worrying, far from it. I guess I'm trying to say that things could be much much worse, and despite all the shenanigans, we're at a better place in time than ever to deal with all this. 

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  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
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  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire

    The panic buying is starting to overtake the virus itself as my biggest concern.  I have been told to work from home for the foreseeable future and have therefore been buying more tinned foods of late, anticipating that I will be home cooking somewhat more often, instead of my usual habit of frequently eating out at the workplace canteen and to a lesser extent at pubs and restaurants.  Apart from that, though, my recent buying habits have not been drastically different to normal.  

    My main concern is that the panic buying can quickly become self-reinforcing and make shopping into a "dog eat dog world" where "nice guys finish last".  The people who stockpile excessively end up with enough to last them for several months and so they profit, while those who buy responsibly, stockpiling say a few weeks' worth of supplies, are made to pay for it in a big way when these supplies start running out and it is an uphill struggle to get more because the panic buyers keep stripping the supermarkets and booking up all of the grocery delivery slots.  As someone who has refused to panic buy on moral grounds, I could well end up in that situation in about three weeks' time.

    My other concern is about rationing - as things currently stand we do need some rationing, if nothing else to curb the excesses of panic buying, but not on anywhere near the scale that we had during World War II.  The amounts of panic buying that we're seeing now, though, could make a World War II level of rationing more likely, and in that case again the panic buyers will profit from their months' worth of supplies while those of us who buy responsibly will be left with the bare minimum that we had to make do with in World War II.

    In view of these considerations I suggest that there may be a growing incidence of people panic buying so as to avoid being trampled on by other panic buyers, rather than directly due to the threat from Covid-19 and social distancing.  I am, however, hopeful that there may be a limit to how much some people are willing to panic buy, which might improve the situation within a couple of weeks or so.

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  • Location: Colchester, Essex, UK (33m ASL)
  • Location: Colchester, Essex, UK (33m ASL)
    3 minutes ago, matty007 said:

    I was thinking today about teratogenesis. Unfortunately, this is something that we did sometimes in SARS. Given that Covid is a direct descendant of SARS, it is certainly something we must do extensive research on. Especially given that we have seen a number of infants who have contracted Covid in the womb.

    Let's hope we don't see too much of it Matt.

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE

    I expect things are going to become pretty bleak in the short term but we will get through this .

    And I’m sure over this time we’re going to see some pretty depressing  scenes but at the same time we’re also going to see some wonderful acts of kindness from people.

    And although we all have our own ideas as to what we think our respective governments should be doing I think we have to accept that they’re probably a little shell shocked by events just as we are .

    There’s no perfect response to this virus and mistakes will be made and have been already .

    They do need some help from their citizens and can’t magically wave away this virus.

    So we all have a part to play in this. 

     

     

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
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    Just now, Wiltshire_snow_lover said:

     

    The silver hour is an excellent idea and so is the priority access for delivery slots. Really pleased to see this .

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    5 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

    The silver hour is an excellent idea and so is the priority access for delivery slots. Really pleased to see this .

    Good question for you nick, you planning on coming back to you uk r stick it out in france? What health care system do you trust most? 

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  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
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    Yeah, good to see that supermarkets are fighting back against the panic buying and striving to protect the most vulnerable.  Hopefully with time they will be able to evolve a good balance with their levels of rationing that will calm things down so that we can go back to shopping much as before, though of course with some changes in emphasis due to more people spending more time at home and in some cases self-isolating.

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    1 hour ago, nick sussex said:

    To lighten the mood I soon will be needing a kaftan . My healthier eating plan has derailed and I’ve decided to eat my way to happiness !

    I just can’t be doing with worrying about my weight at this point in time !

    Should you change your name to Demis Roussos?

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  • Location: Medlock Valley, Oldham, 103m asl

    Went to Tesco today & tried to buy some packets of noodles to put on top of my stir fried veg & meat but they had none. Went to the ethnic aisle with Chinese food to buy a couple of packets of theirs but none there either. There was a notice no delivery until the 21st. Ended up in Morrisons which had a few packets of noodles left thankfully. Cashier said they've never seen anything like it been worse than Christmas. People barging in, arguing with each other & abusive to staff.

    This has really brought out the worse in a lot of people. And for what? Most people will survive this thing even if they catch it as the vast majority do not die from it. We've hardly had any stories from people who've got over it...only a trickle. Yet there's thousands out there. We're only fed bad news. Eventually this virus will die down & normality will resume thankfully.

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  • Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Norton. 549ft (167m) ASL
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    20 minutes ago, Frost HoIIow said:

    Went to Tesco today & tried to buy some packets of noodles to put on top of my stir fried veg & meat but they had none. Went to the ethnic aisle with Chinese food to buy a couple of packets of theirs but none there either. There was a notice no delivery until the 21st. Ended up in Morrisons which had a few packets of noodles left thankfully. Cashier said they've never seen anything like it been worse than Christmas. People barging in, arguing with each other & abusive to staff.

    This has really brought out the worse in a lot of people. And for what? Most people will survive this thing even if they catch it as the vast majority do not die from it. We've hardly had any stories from people who've got over it...only a trickle. Yet there's thousands out there. We're only fed bad news. Eventually this virus will die down & normality will resume thankfully.

    Don't know if you've got any stores like B&M's near where you live, but went into the main one in Hanley and shelves were fully stocked with all foods, they also have a small Heron Foods Freezer section and that was full too, this was at 3pm.  Most of these people only seem to think about the main 'big' supermarkets whilst all the smaller type stores are being completely ignored.  The Local newsagent's near me (that are like a mini mart) are all fine too.

     

    Also not looking forward to tomorrow (even though technically it's today now, so to speak). Mothers insisting I go with her to do her monthly shop, I've been trying to warn her since last week she needed to do it a bit early, but no, "everything's fine it's just a lot of foreign panic over a bad flu" so now I'm being dragged out into the heaving masses that she doesn't believes exists.... and to top it off I'm now coming down with the cold that's making the rounds... urgh.... ?

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
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    1 hour ago, Wiltshire_snow_lover said:

    Good question for you nick, you planning on coming back to you uk r stick it out in france? What health care system do you trust most? 

    I’m staying here . As for health systems France was originally seen as one of the best in Europe but it has the same issues with an aging population as the NHS. It has struggled a bit more in recent years with funding become more of an issue .

    To be honest this virus would test any health system no matter how well funded. 

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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
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  • Location: Saffron Walden, near Cambridge.
    7 hours ago, TomSE12 said:

    Just wanted to give you the latest update on Face MaskGate.

    As I've stated in some previous Posts, my Wife works in a Residential Care Home.

    When she arrived at the Home for her early Morning shift, she announced to all and sundry that she's ordered some Face Masks, and will be wearing one at the end of the Week, once they arrive.

    The Lady that organises the Work Roster and doubles up as the Receptionist, retorted,"That won't be necessary Colette, the one Resident that was tested, has come back with a negative result.

    We're in a bubble here and won't get affected".

    Completely missing the point, of course!! 

    The Deputy Manager and Senior Carer that was in charge this Morning, didn't seem to have any firm guidance to give my Wife and told her, "It's your personal choice, Colette".

    I decided to phone BUPA's Care Home Division Head Office, and the told the respondent that my Wife worked in one of their Care Homes and what was their policy on their Staff wearing Face Masks, as she had been told previously not to wear one, as it would frighten the Residents.

    The Receptionist asked me which Care Home my Wife worked in. I didn't want to give that information and wanted to protect my Wife's, anonymity. I asked the Receptionist what guidance have they given their Staff, re, wearing Face Masks. After a bit of umming and ahing, she tried to put me through to another Department but all I got was some random Menu.

    Colette decided to text her Manageress, telling her that she'd ordered some Face Masks herself, and would be wearing one, once they arrived. The Manageress responded, "That's nice of you Colette but we have a couple in the Home". I hope the Manageress doesn't think my Wife has bought them for all the Staff, they are for herself!!

    Colette responded with, "I will be wearing one on my next shift, not only to protect myself but also to protect the Residents, in case I bring the Coronavirus in with me and give it to the Residents, a lot of whom have underlying health issues".

    Which is exactly the point. Obviously, all the Staff have Families and a lot of them travel on Public Transport, and could inadvertently bring the Coronavirus, into the Home.

    My Wife wants to wear a Face Mask not only to protect herself but also the Residents, of the Care Home.

    I'm staggered that one of the largest Care Service providers in the Country, have no firm Policy in the current situation and at best, a "wishy-washy" attitude, towards their Staff.

    My Wife has saved the Text from her Manageress, in case there is any "comeback", once she wears her Face Mask.

    I'm also amazed that my own Father managed to live for 13 Years (to the age 95), in this very Care Home.

    Colette tells me there is still no sanitising hand wash in the Home, and that has been the case for a few Days now!!

    One good piece of News, when my Wife went shopping in Sainsburys in Bromley, the Cashier saw Colette's Uniform and asked if she'd like a pack of Toilet Rolls. Colette gratefully accepted and the Cashier produced the pack, from under her seat.

    Regards,

    Tom.   :hi:

     

     

    This is woefully incompetent.

    People must understand that if they work within a care home, which houses many elderly people, and the very people who are most at risk, they MUST take every precaution to not infect those elderly people. In the case of this virus, it is not imperative you wear masks for your OWN protection, but to protect the elderly.

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  • Location: Netherlands close to the coast
  • Location: Netherlands close to the coast
    2 hours ago, emax said:

    So in theory controlled diabetes, where the blood sugar is kept at normal levels with medication, "shouldn't" be a risk factor...... In theory at least? 

    The more interesting one is certain types of blood pressure meds to me. As I'm sure you're aware, there's still no concrete proof that arb's and ace inhibitors make you more susceptible. I believe it's really just theories at the moment regarding any bad effects with ace 2, whereas actual animal tests suggest BP meds shouldn't make any difference. Although there's lots of data on ace 2, there doesn't seem to be any outright concensus on what increases it etc. 

     

    This is just me being interested in a hypothetical situation by the way, so please no one start thinking of not taking medication, or anything stupid like that. 

    Many people have had great success reversing their type 2 diabetes (and even type 1 but that takes careful monitoring and guidance with a physician) and hypertension their with the ketogenic diet and even more so with the carnivore diet.  

    Personally I'm a big fan of the carnivore diet, it's just an easy form of the ketogenic diet and it eliminates all the constipation, bloating and IBS causing fiber too

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  • Location: Czech Republic
  • Location: Czech Republic

    Our government failed spectacularly. They did absolutely nothing in January. Now, in the middle of the pandemic, they realized they have no face masks, desinfection and only 10 000 respirators in state reserves. We can't go out without a face mask but you can't even buy them anywhere so we have to make them ourselves.

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