COVID-19 Pandemic

[Man With Beard]

Just now, weirpig said:

To be honest  its getting pointless looking at these figures now.  As we know its much more higher then these results state 

Considering how many public figures are reporting having it, I'm personally of the view there's somewhere between 10,000 and 100,000 cases in the UK right now. Actually, this would be a good thing as it would mean the death rate is far lower than being reported. 

[kold weather]

1 minute ago, weirpig said:

To be honest  its getting pointless looking at these figures now.  As we know its much more higher then these results state 

Agreed, but what it will tell us is the direction of trend, so you can still compare like for like and spot the trend. then obviously as you say accept that its now going to be running such a lag that its not going to represent actual reality.

That trend is showing a drastic upward motion in Spain, similar (or maybe even faster) than Italy.

[weirpig]

Just now, kold weather said:

Agreed, but what it will tell us is the direction of trend, so you can still compare like for like and spot the trend. then obviously as you say accept that its now going to be running such a lag that its not going to represent actual reality.

That trend is showing a drastic upward motion in Spain, similar (or maybe even faster) than Italy.

Yep i agree with that   its a useful  tool in seeing the amount tested  and the percentage of positive results.  that may then show at least  how much spread there is the community 

[weirpig]

2 minutes ago, Man With Beard said:

Considering how many public figures are reporting having it, I'm personally of the view there's somewhere between 10,000 and 100,000 cases in the UK right now. Actually, this would be a good thing as it would mean the death rate is far lower than being reported. 

Maybe   But are people in or out off  hospital with respiratory problems  who die  tested for the virus?.  if not  then the death rate could be much higher 

[AWD]

39 minutes ago, D.V.R said:

Callum Hudson-Odoi's video 

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He's recovered? 

He only had it confirmed last night didn't he? 

[feb1991blizzard]

15 minutes ago, kold weather said:

They are going to be lour soldiers in this battle against the virus. As I said, some of them are going to have to make literal life and death decisions in the upcoming 3-6 months.

Yes - in some cases the life and death decisions will include sacrificing their own.

[Azazel]

Just now, feb1991blizzard said:

Yes - in some cases the life and death decisions will include sacrificing their own.

This also terrifies me. My missus is a nurse - not in an ICU but I fully expect cases to spill over into other wards.

[feb1991blizzard]

1 minute ago, Azazel said:

This also terrifies me. My missus is a nurse - not in an ICU but I fully expect cases to spill over into other wards.

lemon! - don't know what to say, at risk deffo but what else can she do, other than resign but then that affects other people and i am guessing nurses don't really think like that.

[Gowon]

6 minutes ago, AWD said:

He's recovered? 

He only had it confirmed last night didn't he? 

Must have had it for a few days? It shows though, if you're fit and follow the guidelines it's not that serious.

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by D.V.R
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[Relativistic]

12 minutes ago, Azazel said:

This also terrifies me. My missus is a nurse - not in an ICU but I fully expect cases to spill over into other wards.

If your missus is young and fit with no underlying health conditions, then chances are it'll be mild for her. Probability of death is essentially nil.

I'd be more worried about her spreading it to other people on the ward.

Edited March 13, 2020 by Relativistic

[Sky Full]

Can anyone explain why Russia has so few reported cases?  34 cases out of a population of 144 million seems very low?  Don't they socialise or travel as much as the rest of the world?

[AWD]

People on the BBC saying the PL and EFL has been suspended until 4th April. 

Edited March 13, 2020 by AWD

[kold weather]

4 minutes ago, D.V.R said:

Must have had it for a few days? It shows though, if you're fit and follow the guidelines it's not that serious.

 

For most people it won't be too pleasant for a while but yes, most will be ok.

He is probably about as low risk as its possible to get, being a professional with many many different fitness, physios and medical expertise at hand to make sure they are running near peak levels all the time during the season.

Its for the older generation that this seems to be a real killer.

[kold weather]

2 minutes ago, Sky Full said:

Can anyone explain why Russia has so few reported cases?  34 cases out of a population of 144 million seems very low?  Don't they socialise or travel as much as the rest of the world?

I call it the Trump syndrome. If you don't test very much, you don't get reported cases. Turkey I think have done something very similar as well.

[Relativistic]

1 hour ago, Sky Full said:

I wholeheartedly applaud this attitude.  I've been trying to imagine ways in which universal immunity could be could be brought about as quickly as possible but it cannot be done without some personal risk to those willing to be infected artificially.  

Although children might be least at risk they obviously cannot be expected to be experimented upon, but here's another suggestion....  

Athletes and sports people who are already extremely fit and healthy and unlikely to suffer serious ill effects - maybe they could volunteer to become immune by being given the virus and then recovering in isolation.  Once recovered and immune, they could then devote their time to easing the burden on carers by delivering food and other essentials to the most vulnerable including the elderly, sick and others who are most at risk.  

An opportunity for immensely well paid footballers to give something back to their communities, perhaps?

 

This is a lovely idea given that sports fixtures are being called off, and since it also seems to be spreading through the EPL quite rapidly. Sport unites people like nothing else, and I think it would bring a real sense of community and togetherness if a programme like this were to be set up.

[kold weather]

Denmark official cases has gone up 111 overnight, which is quite the leap again, they may go up 200 today...and as we know, there is a big lag now on those numbers.

[Man With Beard]

31 minutes ago, weirpig said:

Maybe   But are people in or out off  hospital with respiratory problems  who die  tested for the virus?.  if not  then the death rate could be much higher 

Good point!

[Sky Full]

Right.  I'm off to the National Botanical Garden of Wales to see the daffs.  If you see me there and I walk off in the opposite direction, don't be offended.  I'm keeping a distance of 5 meters from anyone else.  

[Gowon]

4 minutes ago, kold weather said:

For most people it won't be too pleasant for a while but yes, most will be ok.

He is probably about as low risk as its possible to get, being a professional with many many different fitness, physios and medical expertise at hand to make sure they are running near peak levels all the time during the season.

Its for the older generation that this seems to be a real killer.

Yes and that's why everyone should find time to keep themselves fit. Exercising does wonders for your body and soul so when things like this comes about your less likely to suffer badly or catch it at all..

I play football, do a bit of weights in between and walk a lot so personally I say bring it on.

[summer blizzard]

Did Italy actually go up 2700?

Good news is that active cases in South Korea appear (margin of a few days when smoothed) to have peaked.

[Captain Shortwave]

I honestly don’t know whether this is going to work, an issue for me is that the incubation time for this virus is quite long so in reality we will always be a week behind the virus. Not to mention during that time you could spread it to others and be completely oblivious to it until you start feeling ill.

Now that testing is only taking place in hospitals we are now blind as to where and how fast this is spreading. Things could go downhill very quickly if many positive cases turn up at once in a single location, you would have to assume a large number of the local population is infected.

@Sky Full I like the outside of the box thinking there. Many professions could be out of work for weeks, which means they could become infected and recover with no real impact.

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by Captain Shortwave

[kold weather]

3 minutes ago, summer blizzard said:

Did Italy actually go up 2700?

Good news is that active cases in South Korea appear (margin of a few days when smoothed) to have peaked.

Pretty much yes, Spain will record a 1000+ day today as well almost certainly as well. Of course, that is the reported cases, who knows what it is in reality. 

3 new deaths in Indonesia.

Edited March 13, 2020 by kold weather

[Methuselah]

England's tour of Sri Lanka called-off:

 

Coronavirus: England Test series in Sri Lanka called-off - BBC Sport

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England's Test series against Sri Lanka is called off because of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

[Snipper]

1 hour ago, Astral Goat Juice said:

Correct - I am firmly happy with the Governments response and reasoning. It's quite simple:

Oldies & People with Health Issues - Stay indoors

Youngies - Go about your daily life as normal, spread the virus, develop immunity.

It protects us from the second wave. 

Think it is more staying isolated at home. Not specifically stay indoors. 

[kold weather]

Sweden is following the UK in only testing those in hospitals from now on to preserve resources. They are not going to update the daily new cases, as its meaningless from now on.

I suspect most countries will soon switch to just reporting deaths as the numbers continue to grow.