Evening Star 46 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Relativistic said: I think there's reason to believe that it could be a while. The only other comparable month (in terms of head-and-shoulders-above-the-rest warmth) is May 1833, and that's not far off its bicentenary. Nothing, not even in the AGW era, has come close to it! Unless we get runaway global warming then I suspect the December 2015 event will remain a "once in a few hundred years" phenomenon. True, it's impossible to say the warmth in December 2015 was a direct consequence of AGW. However, I do believe mild winter weather will become more common over the next hundred years. BTW I take it you're a fan of Physics by your username? I love Physics and currently an undergrad at Exeter 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted December 31, 2018 I still would have been way out with my original 6.6c prediction, but probably would have ended up the closest, Incredible that we shall likely finish over 7c when you consider all the juicy charts that we saw at the end of November. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultima Thule 0 Posted December 31, 2018 21 hours ago, Don said: This December really has been absolutely dire and has even felt worse than 2015 in some ways! Agreed. It has been effortlessly mild. 5th mildest ever December. Worrying😳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don 1,385 Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ultima Thule said: Agreed. It has been effortlessly mild. 5th mildest ever December. Worrying😳 Concerning about the rest of winter, too. I know cold winters have had mild Decembers but I'm not sure to this extent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I remember Atlantic 252 4,601 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, snowray said: I still would have been way out with my original 6.6c prediction, but probably would have ended up the closest, Incredible that we shall likely finish over 7c when you consider all the juicy charts that we saw at the end of November. 8.0 mine was, i believe in mild 'winters' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carinthian 9,629 Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, carinthian said: Nice morning in Vancouver . A settled spell of weather for a few days before the next Pacific Low moves in later this week. First picture is looking over English Bay and entrance to Vancouver Harbour. Beyond is Bowen Island and the snow capped peaks in far distance over Upper Squamish and the Sunshine Coastal Region. Second picture was taken yesterday at my cousins home in Osoyoos, Southern Interior of BC. Still hunting for cold for you lot. The charts are very frustrating but that's one heck of a block over the British Isles and I sure the next few days will see some frost. Maybe, it will retrogress quicker than the current models show and open up for some Arctic air in the mix. Meanwhile back in Katschberg they have a 3 day snow event to look forward to from Wednesday thanks to a Arctic outbreak in Central and SE Europe. This follows on the heals of the recent snowfall in the Eastern Alps. Not much comfort to you snow lovers back in Blighty but its thanks to your high pressure block !! Lets hope your turn soon comes. C Sorry sent to wrong thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus Prime 918 Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Evening Star said: True, it's impossible to say the warmth in December 2015 was a direct consequence of AGW. With a CET 9.7°C...I bet it was! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said: 8.0 mine was, i believe in mild 'winters' Yes, 8c was yours, so well done, might as well been 8c+, horrible December, again!😣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Ultima Thule said: Agreed. It has been effortlessly mild. 5th mildest ever December. Worrying😳 Its not mild in Greece though, as usual!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I remember Atlantic 252 4,601 Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, snowray said: Its not mild in Greece though, as usual!! too far from the Atlantic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I remember Atlantic 252 4,601 Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, snowray said: Yes, 8c was yours, so well done, might as well been 8c+, horrible December, again!😣 Aye, some on here still don't believe our winters have changed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said: Aye, some on here still don't believe our winters have changed Yes they have changed...a lot! I'm not saying that I agree with greenhouse gasses or GW particularly mind, but Greece and north Africa getting snow all the time is pretty weird! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted December 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said: too far from the Atlantic I have gone 2.1c for January...............Just to add insult to injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I remember Atlantic 252 4,601 Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, snowray said: Yes they have changed...a lot! I'm not saying that I agree with greenhouse gasses or GW particularly mind, but Greece and north Africa getting snow all the time is pretty weird! the increased frequency of Atlantic air, and our cold spells are not as cold 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, I remember Atlantic 252 said: the increased frequency of Atlantic air, and our cold spells are not as cold True.....BUT they are in places like Greece/Southern Italy/Turkey though.....Its madness! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I remember Atlantic 252 4,601 Posted December 31, 2018 I reckon average compass point for Dec to Jan is 252 degrees, wind direction, wonder if anyone has it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evening Star 46 Posted December 31, 2018 45 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said: I reckon average compass point for Dec to Jan is 252 degrees, wind direction, wonder if anyone has it Hoping spring ans summer is 180 degrees. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID SNOW 3,308 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said: the increased frequency of Atlantic air, and our cold spells are not as cold December 2010, bit chilly that was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew. 1,525 Posted January 1 (edited) 6.9c final December CET https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cetml1659on.dat 6.89c to 2 decimal places https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_mean_2018 Edited January 1 by Matthew. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reef 2,492 Posted January 1 Hadley is confirmed as 6.9C. Joint 15th warmest. The annual CET was 10.69C, 4th warmest. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted January 1 Wow, 4th annual warmest is just crazy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reef 2,492 Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, snowray said: Wow, 4th annual warmest is just crazy! The three warmer years are 2006, 2011 and 2014 aswell. All in the last 12 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vizzy2004 1,366 Posted January 1 Finished 5.3c here, 1.5c above the 1981-2010 average. 70.8mm of rainfall. 105% of the average. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowray 4,352 Posted January 1 (edited) 19 minutes ago, reef said: The three warmer years are 2006, 2011 and 2014 aswell. All in the last 12 years. That's incredible, I wasn't aware that they were ALL in the 2000's. I guess in future I will have to go with slightly higher predictions, but I'm constantly obsessing over a very cold winter CET month, one day it will happen. I'm still gutted that I didn't stick with my original 6.6c prediction. Edited January 1 by snowray 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walsall Wood Snow 1,074 Posted January 1 At 6.9c December 2018 shares the same mean monthly CET with December's: 1953, 1918, 1833 and 1827 (both November and December recorded a CET of 6.9 that year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites