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8 minutes ago, cheese said:

And then comes the weekend - all the problems of the working week suddenly fade away.

On that we agree!! The actual humidity hasn't been to bad IF your outside,but i fear this will change.

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Oh and for what it's worth, this will be added to the guidelines shortly..  

Feels so Autumnal today, loving the change from June and July.

The sad thing is many people don't appreciate that people really struggle in this, from young babies to elderly to asthmatic. Meanwhile they're sitting there going yay it could be 40oC. I'm same as yo

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Well it’s currently 36 days since we had any rain at all here - 30th May - and looking like another 7 at least. Crazy stuff, like being in the med or California!

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For all those suffering out there you have to remember this is a rare event,not really had these conditions since at least 2003 and 2006.It has the potential to be the best extended summer in a century[for those that like this weather[.I realised talking to young lads at work that they have never experienced or certainly don't remember summers like this but it does happen and this is a timely reminder.Personally I am loving it and long may it continue although a little rain would not go amiss in the garden.I do not know how the M.s.index works and when it starts but if it is just for summer months how does the figure get so high after one month?

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Although today is the 12th consecutive day on which the temperature has exceeded 82.4F,  somewhere in the UK, we still have some way to go before any longevity records get broken: 1976 produced two 18-day stretches and August 1997 gave us a run of 19!?

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6 hours ago, Scorcher said:

I'm not completely familiar with how your summer index works- I take it it could fall on the list if we have a wet, cool spell?

I imagine it could well be heading up close to 1983 and 1995 by the end of next week.

Yes it could fall.

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3 hours ago, Ed Stone said:

Although today is the 12th consecutive day on which the temperature has exceeded 82.4F,  somewhere in the UK, we still have some way to go before any longevity records get broken: 1976 produced two 18-day stretches and August 1997 gave us a run of 19!?

Although i don't wish it, Cheese's point elsewhere is interesting in that it is highly likely now that we will not only get the hottest May-July period on record and one of the hottest first halves of summer and yet Leeds (urban area, fairly central) will probably fail to breach 30C. 

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Since i am 90% sure we will be breaking a record for the hottest May-July period i looked at those summers which had seen a 15.5+ June and 17.7+ July (i.e. 1C above todays norms) and there are basically two camps..

1826, 1868, 1933 and 1976 all stay warm and deliver a CET above 16.8 

1762, 1794, 1818 and 2006 all have a CET below 16.1.

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56 minutes ago, summer blizzard said:

Although i don't wish it, Cheese's point elsewhere is interesting in that it is highly likely now that we will not only get the hottest May-July period on record and one of the hottest first halves of summer and yet Leeds (urban area, fairly central) will probably fail to breach 30C. 

Yes, it's the prevalence of easterlies this year that has done it. South easterlies deliver hot weather but straight easterlies or north easterlies are a death knell for true heat. It's been perfectly pleasant of course but for interest at least one 30C day would have been appreciated (by me anyway).  Really would be ridiculous not to reach 30C this year, having reached 30C in unremarkable or poor summers like 2017, 2016, 2015, 2011.

Sunday is our best chance of reaching 30C since we will have a westerly flow as per today (still 27C as I type which is the warmest it's been at this time of day all year - no cooling easterly breezes).

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Oh the joy....there might be a little glimmer of hope on the horizon,thank you mother nature,relief at last!!? Next week looking much cooler and mid month showing the same,wonderful!

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12 minutes ago, markyo said:

Oh the joy....there might be a little glimmer of hope on the horizon,thank you mother nature,relief at last!!? Next week looking much cooler and mid month showing the same,wonderful!

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14 minutes ago, markyo said:

Oh the joy....there might be a little glimmer of hope on the horizon,thank you mother nature,relief at last!!? Next week looking much cooler and mid month showing the same,wonderful!

Lol, that's the same glimmer of hope the models have been showing for ages now only for it to get pushed back. I wouldn't get your hopes up too much.

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Made 30°C for the second time in a week, here. That's quite special for down here near the coast. My garden has never looked better, pond looks amazing. I love a bit of wind & rain but this weather is too good to turn your nose up at.

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On 04/07/2018 at 17:28, Weather-history said:

Its actually the opposite. You look at all the severe winters (sub 2C CET) and see how many were followed by a hot summer.

And last winter wasn't that cold overall. 

 

I think I remember last year you saying something to the effect, that an above average June is often a precursor to an average to below average December. June last year had a CET of 16.0 c and December was 4.8 c. So that seemed to work out. Based on June this year been 0.1 c warmer, would you fancy there been a fair chance that December this year could also be average to below temperature wise?

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2 hours ago, Walsall Wood Snow said:

I think I remember last year you saying something to the effect, that an above average June is often a precursor to an average to below average December. June last year had a CET of 16.0 c and December was 4.8 c. So that seemed to work out. Based on June this year been 0.1 c warmer, would you fancy there been a fair chance that December this year could also be average to below temperature wise?

Most cold December's were preceeded by cool summer months however yes, there is a statistical quirk that very warm Junes are disproportionately followed by cool December's.

Personally i don't make much of it however ironically i do see very good signs for a cold winter. 

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Rather warm at night here, still 20C at 02:45. Have the fan on so no dramas. An amazing spell of weather, some rain would be useful, especially for agriculture but if it means letting the Atlantic in for weeks and weeks with cool, windy, cloudy and drizzly days (as happened last year), then forget it. This can stay until October.

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12 hours ago, markyo said:

Oh the joy....there might be a little glimmer of hope on the horizon,thank you mother nature,relief at last!!? Next week looking much cooler and mid month showing the same,wonderful!

Have a read of the latest METO outlook, some good news for you there and storms for me too?:good:

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39 minutes ago, DAVID SNOW said:

Have a read of the latest METO outlook, some good news for you there and storms for me too?:good:

I have read it,the glimmer of hope may grow stronger soon! Sub 25c all this week by me next week after Sunday,may on one or two days struggle to get out of the teens....oh bliss?

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Whilst I welcome this warm summery spell, a few thunderstorms mixed in would make it the perfect summer for me, otherwise it can get a bit tedious  but thunderstorms here are not going to happen anytime soon....or later for that matter , thunder is just as rare as a flying pig over the last couple of years   Bring back the 80's and 90's

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24 minutes ago, markyo said:

I have read it,the glimmer of hope may grow stronger soon! Sub 25c all this week by me next week after Sunday,may on one or two days struggle to get out of the teens....oh bliss?

Just had a look at this mornings GFS maybe the sub 25c won't last all that long?

Given GFS has a tendency to underestimate temps in these set-up's we could probably add another 2 to 3c on those values

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