Winter Thoughts & Hopes 2016/17

[WillinGlossop]

14 hours ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

something for high elevation members to get their teeth into eg @WillinGlossop that feature moving in Saturday into Sunday, surprises there I feel

Even last nights rain/sleet left 5-6cm over the tops of the hills here from 450m upwards and over the snake pass.... overnight does look to possibly hold a bit of interest.... 

[Summer Sun]

Next weekend

Often cloudy
Cold
Windchill

Not a huge amount of precipitation rain or snow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/38867880

[Summer Sun]

The weather has given us all a dry January

https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2017/02/02/the-weather-has-given-us-all-a-dry-january/

[Mapantz]

2 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

The weather has given us all most of us a dry January

https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2017/02/02/the-weather-has-given-us-all-a-dry-january/

Not for here. 120mm fell at my station, ties in nicely with that block of 125 - 150% of the average.

[Summer Sun]

 

[Weather-history]

3 hours ago, WillinGlossop said:

Even last nights rain/sleet left 5-6cm over the tops of the hills here from 450m upwards and over the snake pass.... overnight does look to possibly hold a bit of interest.... 

 

[Don]

6 hours ago, Summer Sun said:

 

No surprise to see south eastern parts of England having a colder than average January.

[Summer Sun]

Next weekend

Often cloudy
Cold wind
Snow showers mainly in the east

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/38873601

[Summer Sun]

Early next week

Cold easterly winds
Frosty mornings
Snow flurries

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/38888388

[I remember Atlantic 252]

1 hour ago, Summer Sun said:

Early next week

Cold easterly winds
Frosty mornings
Snow flurries

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/38888388

Seems promising for next week, maybe tomorrow will change though to say 'less cold SE'ly' next week with snow only to hills

[Summer Sun]

Friday night into Saturday could be the time to watch for snow showers "could be a covering over the hills in Yorkshire for example"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08cw162/bbc-news-at-six-07022017

^26 minutes in

[Summer Sun]

Next week

Cold easterlies
Snow flurries
Perhaps less cold later with winds from the south or south-east

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/38899042

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Yes, as expected less cold S/SE'ly mentioned, but he says later next week, but seemed to say less cold over weekend of 11th-12th

[Summer Sun]

Some city temps for this weekend

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Just now, Summer Sun said:

Some city temps for this weekend

Yes, certainly not 90's style! knock 2° off that 20 years ago or so

[Don]

9 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

Yes, as expected less cold S/SE'ly mentioned, but he says later next week, but seemed to say less cold over weekend of 11th-12th

I think maybe he meant briefly less cold on Sunday due to that low pressure and then colder again next week, before possibly becoming less cold again later?

[I remember Atlantic 252]

dosen't look cold next week at all though? last 2 GFS runs have 8° on Monday for most of the south

[Don]

27 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

dosen't look cold next week at all though? last 2 GFS runs have 8° on Monday for most of the south

Yes, even the Met Office are forecasting my village as having a max of 7C on Monday now.  I give up!!!

Mind you, there's enough time for things to change still, but I've lowered my hopes compared to yesterday.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Don

[Weather-history]

41 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

Yes, certainly not 90's style! knock 2° off that 20 years ago or so

How do you know that? How can you say for certain? 

I don't know why you think the winters of the 1990s were all glory, I must have told you dozens of times already that overall were not that special. They had their moments but winters such as 1989-90, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1994-95, 1997-98, 1998-99 were mediocre to forgettable. 

Manchester Winter Indices for 90s winters

1989-90: 26

1990-91: 119

1991-92: 40

1992-93: 43

1993-94: 78

1994-95: 47

1995-96: 135

1996-97: 72

1997-98: 25

1998-99: 47

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2008-09: 105

2009-10: 197

2010-11: 119

2012-13: 102

[cheeky_monkey]

3 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

How do you know that? How can you say for certain? 

I don't know why you think the winters of the 1990s were all glory, I must have told you dozens of times already that overall were not that special. They had their moments but winters such as 1989-90, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1994-95, 1997-98, 1998-99 were mediocre to forgettable. 

Manchester Winter Indices for 90s winters

1989-90: 26

1990-91: 119

1991-92: 40

1992-93: 43

1993-94: 78

1994-95: 47

1995-96: 135

1996-97: 72

1997-98: 25

1998-99: 47

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2008-09: 105

2009-10: 197

2010-11: 119

2012-13: 102

be interested to know what the index was for the period 1978 - 1988 looked liked?

[Weather-history]

Just now, cheeky_monkey said:

be interested to know what the index was for the period 1978 - 1988 looked liked?

1976-77: 141

1977-78: 90

1978-79: 262

1979-80: 66

1980-81: 90

1981-82: 149

1982-83: 85

1983-84: 82

1984-85: 140

1985-86: 159

1986-87: 100

1987-88: 37

1988-89: 20

[cheeky_monkey]

1 minute ago, Weather-history said:

1976-77: 141

1977-78: 90

1978-79: 262

1979-80: 66

1980-81: 90

1981-82: 149

1982-83: 85

1983-84: 82

1984-85: 140

1985-86: 159

1986-87: 100

1987-88: 37

1988-89: 20

Thanks...as i thought there are 5 winters in there that beat the best the 90s could offer!

[Smiler1709]

Looking forward to seeing some warmer charts and light winds so I can get out on the boat and get some much needed fishing in, really can't be fussed with this up and coming cold blip more interested in the hunt for the Azores high. Very frustrating winter but the reality is the climate is warming and prolonged cold and snow are a thing of the past. Some in the model thread literally live there lives in the hunt for snow yet are disappointed 99% of the time. If they want cold and snow then migrate to Siberia. 

[Weather-history]

Talking about the 1990s, there's a good book by Peter B Wright called "Weather of the 90s: a decade of weather and climate in the UK" I recommend it, gives a good account of the 1990s with data and analysis

[Summer Sun]

The live temperature map shows it starting to turn colder in the east

Edited February 8, 2017 by Summer Sun