Wales (Cymru) Autumn Regional Discussion 28/10/13 -------->

[andymusic]

On the model output forum, do they ever look back from where they are now and go either "see, told you so" or "crickey, didnt see that one!" cos its blowing a hooley here and the leaks are back and potential SNOW tomorrow.

nope - don't think they do - constantly searching for weather heaven in some distant time zone - while right now it's murder out there - wind rain etc - thing is it's only really happening to Ireland and Wales so far - not effecting England just yet!

[124alex]

nope - don't think they do - constantly searching for weather heaven in some distant time zone - while right now it's murder out there - wind rain etc - thing is it's only really happening to Ireland and Wales so far - not effecting England just yet!

 

Hitting SW England atm! Horrible out!

[Panayiotis]

CHECK THE RADAR! THATS INTENSE!

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=radar;sess=

[J10]

Heavy rain on way home tonight,

 

 

tomorrow, for once it does look as if the much talked about evaporational cooling may come into effect. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20199175

Edited December 18, 2013 by J10

[andymusic]

_{WOW - having most intense rain/hail storm - things turning white already}

Edited December 18, 2013 by andymusic

[J10]

_{WOW - having most intense rain/hail storm - things turning white already}

 

I could only imagine how intense that would be given our earlier rain. Take some photos / videos please.

Edited December 18, 2013 by J10

[andymusic]

I could only imagine how intense that would be given our earlier rain. Take some photos / videos please.

only a temporary covering - from the look of the radar it was associated with a squall line coming through - horizontal rain and hail though

 

from the bbc 900 homes without power in Neath - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25428837

Edited December 18, 2013 by andymusic

[Blackjack]

Well that was one of the worst drives home ever over the head of the valley.

Squall was very impressive earlier. Must check the weather station. Although I was only getting 18mph gusts earlier. Will change the settings possibly.

[Stevetynant]

Yes that was a pretty scary drive home tonight, down to ten mph across the

Risca bipass visibility was awful.never saw that coming.

[andymusic]

 

Edited December 18, 2013 by andymusic

[J10]

 

 

Latest from Ian F (on Twitter)

 

W COUNTRY Trough Thurs PM expected ca 2hrs slower than E4 model suggests. Rain/hail showers widely; lying snow signal remains v muted/absent

 

W COUNTRY One poss exception, aside maybe Exmoor area, is Cotswolds where trough might prove more wintry. Higher snow chance Midlands/Wales

 

W COUNTRY More updates on Thursday PM prognosis tomorrow AM, after we see more model handling of this very fiddly situation!

 

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IMO This is very much worth watching, could be very interesting with so many factories the depth of the cold, local Dew Points, Local Wet Bulb Levels, and intensity of the rainfall. Given the potential rush hours nature of it, well worth watching updates tomorrow.

[Panayiotis]

Wasnt home at the time of when the squall line passed, I was in the car! And WOW it was intense! Just got back home to find a layer of ice (hail) in a corner outside my house. When the squall passed on the motorway it was rain mixed in with hail but my little elevation probably meant that the PPN was likely to be hail to give a slight covering by my house especially for it to last 3 hours after the squall passed! Very surprised! 

Edited December 18, 2013 by Panayiotis

[TonyH]

38mm total today, some hail with the cold front

[Panayiotis]

EURO4 now updating, will it move the PPN further north like the NAE? (From a IMBY perspective, I hope it doesnt!)

Edited December 18, 2013 by Panayiotis

[J10]

Big local variations closer to 10mm on the direct coast, about 25mm here according to radar, more inland/ Valleys etc. .

[J10]

EURO4 now updating, will it move the PPN further north like the NAE? (From a IMBY perspective, I hope it doesnt!)

 

EURO4 is the new higher resolution version of NAE, so we should take on board what it has to say, even if we don't like the outcome.

 

(Although I would wish it gave a bit more info, does appear to be a bit scarce in this regard0)

[chopper66]

Just passed over the A470, between Libanus and Nant Ddu there is about 1cm of snow on the road and fields.

[keithlucky]

Heavy band of showers due to hit west Wales mid day pushing westwards with rain hail  Thunder lightening and wet snow in the heavier bursts, could give a temporary covering any were,Don"t you just love UK weather!

Edited December 19, 2013 by keithlucky

[mikeocarroll]

Temp has fallen by a degree or so here in the last hour, just 0.5c atm with a dewpoint of -2.2c. Radar suggests perhaps a bit of snow up towards Llangurig and Newtown at the moment.

 

And down to freezing now, despite dawn being about half an hour ago.

Edited December 19, 2013 by mikeocarroll

[TonyH]

Surprisingly mild over SW Wales this morning. 9c at Milford and mumbles

[marclt]

The location of those sites, so close to the sea does slightly skew the reality.  It was much cooler further inland, and we had a good covering of frost on the cars this morning.

[andymusic]

xmas eve again highlighted for some snow

 

 

 

 

 

edit:- reports of snow coming in from Dolgellau already today from the front entering Wales!

 

Yellow Warning of Ice for Wales

 

Yellow Warning of Ice for Wales : Monmouthshire, Caerphilly, Torfaen, Bridgend, Merthyr Tydfil, Rhonnda Cynon Taff, Blaenau Gwent, Carmarthenshire, Neath Port Talbot, Powys, Swansea, Pembrokeshire, Ceredigion, Gwynedd, Conwy, Denbighshire, Wrexham & Flintshire valid from 1500 Thu 19 Dec to 1000 Fri 20 Dec

 

 

 

Joe B convinced uk will have a white xmas - but there's gonna be rain mixed in too - so we may well see some flakes of snow - but doubtful it will hang around - we shall see

Edited December 19, 2013 by andymusic

[georgiedre]

Very heavy hail and thunder in nw Wales snow on the tops

[marclt]

lots of reports of snow falling in the northern half of Ireland.  Could be interesting if that colder air dig down later.

[Marcus_surfer]

A lot of hail last night, had a 2cm covering at about 3am