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With state of the art technology and the latest info available at the flick of a switch I fail to see why the public should have to put up with out of date forecasts. In this fast moving situation its

I've only gone and done it. This went to the Press Complaints Commission this morning....         1i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 11 December—Sunday 17 December
Briefly milder but mostly cold

The cold weather will continue across much of the country on Monday and Tuesday but it won't be quite as cold as it was over the weekend. A very deep area of low pressure crossing northern France on Monday has been named Storm Ana under the new SW Europe storm naming scheme. This will bring some wet and windy weather to south-east England with possibly some sleet for a time as it clears away later in the day. Further north, it will stay mainly dry and cold with some sunshine. It will be a very cold night on Monday night with a widespread severe frost and icy stretches to be followed by a mainly dry and sunny Tuesday.

Temperatures again on the cold side with a northerly breeze. A band of rain will cross the country on Tuesday night with snow confined to the hill-tops. Followed by briefly milder spell of weather, temperatures on Wednesday reaching double figures across England and Wales and a little milder across Scotland and Northern Ireland. There will be sunny spells and scattered showers during the second half of the week with the showers merging at times in western areas to give some longer spells of rain. There will be fewer showers and the best of the sunshine in eastern areas. The weather looks set to turn colder again as we go into the weekend as winds start tocome in from a chilly northerly direction. However the air will be polar in origin and not the extremely cold arctic air we have been experiencing recently. There will be sunny spells and further showers with the showers turning to snow over the hills.

Monday 18 December—Sunday 24 December
Weather on a tight rope

The weather is finely balanced in the lead up to Christmas. Cold air will remain just to the north and east of the British Isles with milder air just to the west. We will stay in the battle zone between these two air masses. We are likely to end up with a mixed bag of weather conditions for the third week in December. The week looks set to start off on a cold note with sunny spells and a lot of dry weather with just a few wintry showers in the north. There will be frosts at night with the risk of ice. We will then get another push of milder air from the Atlantic brought in by an area of low pressure which is likely to bring some wet and windy weather across the country. The most persistent and heavier rainfall is likely to be over western Scotland and Northern Ireland.
At this stage, it looks as though the milder weather will not last for too long with colder weather from the northwest set to return to the British Isles over the weekend. There will be some sunshine and also blustery showers, these again turning to sleet snow over the hills.

Monday 25 December—Sunday 7 January
Cold probably winning out.

Indications at this stage suggest that temperatures will fall a little lower than average for the last week of December and into January with our air coming in from a northwesterly direction. Winds will be strong at times bringing sunshine and blustery showers. This could mean that the showers tend to fall as rain at lower levels leaving the hills, the most likely areas to see a White Christmas. As discussed last week, the indicators of global weather changes such as La Nina all point towards slow moving weather patterns and colder conditions for western Europe. We are likely to see a lot of dry settled weather with sharp frosts at night but also wintry showers brought in on cold northerly winds. This will be briefly interrupted by short lived, milder, wet and windy interludes.

Next week

How are things shaping-up for the middle of January? Find out next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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The BBC report below arising from the annual American Geophysical Union meeting in New Orleans, where Noaa presented its annual summation of Arctic science.

Warmer Arctic is the 'new normal'

- A warming, rapidly changing Arctic is the "new normal" and shows no signs of returning to the reliably frozen region of the past.

This is according to the US NOAA Arctic Report Card.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42330771?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_weather&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

It's what I've been thinking for a couple of years now. It's not good news for the planet, but ironically I feel could make our winters here in Europe more interesting (for lovers of cold) as the PV will likely face more early season challenges through lack of temp gradient and thus meandering jet with consequent WAA into the Arctic to disrupt establishment.

 

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 18 December—Sunday 24 December
Turning milder with plenty of dry weather

There will be frost in many places to start on Monday, with some patchy fog possible in the south. Once this clears there will be a good deal of sunshine across the country for much of the day, although it will feel a bit chilly. Into the evening, cloud will increase from the west bringing murky conditions with it.
This will lead to widespread fog on Tuesday morning, especially across central, southern and eastern England, which may take until the afternoon to clear. It will be cloudy throughout the day, with some rain and drizzle in the west but on the whole mostly dry and mild. By the evening more prolonged rain will reach northwest Scotland, where it will also turn breezy.

This rain will push southwards through Wednesday morning, becoming increasingly light and patchy. Ahead of this it will be cloudy and mild, however behind it will feel a little cooler with sunshine and some showers in the northwest. The north-south split will continue into Thursday with sunshine and showers in the north and cloudier conditions in the south, with the odd spot of rain or drizzle. With a return to westerly winds on Friday it will turn cloudy across the country, with possibly some light rain in the west but dry elsewhere and feeling mild once more. Into the weekend, we hold onto the mild feel, however the rain is likely to turn heavier, pushing in from the northwest, with winds also picking up. This rain will continue southeastwards through Sunday, leaving behind it some clear skies with the possibility of wintry showers in the north.

Monday 25 December—Sunday 31 December
Will it stay wet and windy for Christmas?

To start next week we look to hold on to the unsettled conditions, however there will always be drier interludes in between. Depending on the timing of the fronts, we could either see wet, windy and mild conditions for Christmas day, or alternatively a colder spell with some wintry showers in the north. The unsettled conditions will continue through the week, potentially bringing gale force winds, heavy rain and snow at times. Throughout the period temperatures will be around average, which is mostly between 6 and 10 degrees Celsius in the south and 5 to 7 Celsius in the north.

Monday 1 January—Sunday 14 January
Settling down for 2018

As we head into the new year it looks like the weather will become more settled with longer drier, brighter but colder spells and shorter milder, wetter and windier periods. This means that we may see more in the way of overnight frost and fog, as well as wintry showers, especially in the north.

Next week

Check back next week to see if the rest of the month will be a dry January.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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UK FOG BOMB: Met Office issue weather alert for fog cloud to ENGULF UK in next 24 hours

THE Met Office have issued a severe yellow weather warning for “radiation fog” set to engulf the nation tonight.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/893806/fog-weather-UK-Foggy-morning-Met-Office-forecast-tomorrow-tonight

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12 minutes ago, Ice Man 85 said:

Looks to be this one https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/88576-winter-2017-2018-hopes-thoughts-and-any-early-forecasts/?page=22&tab=comments#comment-3689573

Probably a good job for coldies these 3 monthly forecasts they issue tend to have mixed results

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I was going to start a new thread on this but decided against.

So recently, probably 10 years two late i've discovered the world of pod-casting. There seems to be some great weather podcasts from the USA, but very little from the UK. Does anyone know of any based in the UK? As much as our weather may seem boring, its fascinating, Id love to hear a netweather podcast or something similar. 

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I noticed in the Daily Star today they were reporting that Christmas Day this year is predicted to be the warmest on record. It's the first instance I've heard of such a claim. Is this even likely. They also claimed that 2017 is set to be the UK's warmest year on record. I can perhaps buy that, but it hasn't felt particularly like it ought to be and has seemed pretty average to me at least and if it is above, I'd be surprised if it was by anything significant.

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5 hours ago, Walsall Wood Snow said:

I noticed in the Daily Star today they were reporting that Christmas Day this year is predicted to be the warmest on record. It's the first instance I've heard of such a claim. Is this even likely. They also claimed that 2017 is set to be the UK's warmest year on record. I can perhaps buy that, but it hasn't felt particularly like it ought to be and has seemed pretty average to me at least and if it is above, I'd be surprised if it was by anything significant.

Daily Star another pathetic red top rag...only 2 weeks ago they were saying (front page) that it was 'odds on' for a white Xmas in the UK, several forecasters online Brian Gaze etc. told the paper what synoptical conditions could cause snow in the weeks ahead and of course the journalist interpreted this as a forecast - duh!:nonono:

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 25 December—Sunday 31 December
From High to Low

High pressure will give way to several areas of low pressure this week resulting in a change to more unsettled weather.

Christmas day will remain mild and rather cloudy across much of England and Wales. Over Scotland and Northern Ireland the heavy rain will give way to colder, showery weather and yes, the showers turning to snow on higher ground. The colder weather will extend across most other parts on Christmas night and into Boxing Day with outbreaks of heavy rain and stronger winds. Sunshine and showers will follow during Boxing Day with the showers in the north falling as snow. It will feel noticeably colder across all parts so extra layers will be required if you are heading out for some fresh air.

We will have a more changeable period of the weather leading up to the end of the year. There will be sunny spells and scattered showers, the showers most frequent in the north and west, falling as snow on high ground. There will be periods of more persistent rain at times too. We are expecting a spell of particularly wet weather to cross south Wales and southern England on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, with even some snow possible on higher ground for a short time. It will turn a little milder by the weekend as winds come in from the southwest.

Monday 1 January—Sunday 7 January
New year, same weather

It does look as though 2018 will start off in a very similar note with unsettled weather conditions across the British Isles. Areas of low pressure will continue to move in from the Atlantic bringing spells of wet and windy weather. The heaviest rain and strongest winds are always most likely to be across western Scotland and Northern Ireland. There will be a chance of snow in the north too, mainly over high ground. In between the weather systems there will be drier, brighter interludes with lighter winds and sunny spells by day but clear skies and a frost at nights.

Monday 8 January—Sunday 21 January
Something a little bit quieter

The second week of 2018 will still have a changeable look with further spells of wet and windy weather. However there are signs of low pressure giving way to high pressure around the middle of the month. This means longer periods of drier, more settled conditions, especially over more southern parts of the British Isles and even in the north, there will be more in the way of drier weather and not as windy. The position of the high pressure will be crucial for our temperatures At this stage it looks like our air will still come in from the Atlantic, keeping temperatures on the mild side but light winds and clear skies at nights would still lead to a touch of frost.

Next week

Any sign of prolonged cold, wintry weather? .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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Scientists predict 'mini ice age' could hit UK by 2030

A model of the Sun's magnetic activity suggests the River Thames may freeze over within two decades, experts say.

A mini ice age that would freeze major rivers could hit Britain in less than two decades, according to research from universities in the UK and Russia.

A mathematical model of the Sun's magnetic activity suggests temperatures could start dropping here from 2021, with the potential for winter skating on the River Thames by 2030.

A team led by maths professor Valentina Zharkova at Northumbria University built on work from Moscow to predict the movements of two magnetic waves produced by the Sun.

It predicts rapidly decreasing magnetic waves for three solar cycles beginning in 2021 and lasting 33 years.

Very low magnetic activity on the Sun correspond with historically documented cold periods on Earth.

Professor Zharkova claims 97% accuracy for the model which dovetails with previous mini ice ages, including the Maunder Minimum period from 1645 to 1715 when frost fairs were held on the frozen Thames.

But she cautions that her mathematical research cannot be used as proof that there will be a mini ice age this time around, not least because of global warming.

"I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution," she said.

But Professor Zharkova warned that any downward impact on global warming will last only until the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again in the 2050s.

"We have to be sorted by that time and prepare everything on Earth for the next big solar activity," she said.

https://news.sky.com/story/scientists-predict-mini-ice-age-could-hit-uk-by-2030-11186098

 

 

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