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With state of the art technology and the latest info available at the flick of a switch I fail to see why the public should have to put up with out of date forecasts. In this fast moving situation its

I've only gone and done it. This went to the Press Complaints Commission this morning....         1i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 13 November—Sunday 19 November
Milder for a time but colder by the weekend

The week will get off to a chilly start for many of us, with a widespread frost to start the day on Monday. Through the morning a frontal system will push in from the northwest bringing cloud across the country, along with rain, sleet and snow for Northern Ireland, Scotland and parts of northern England. Winds will be light but temperatures will struggle to 8 or 9 degrees Celsius at best. Tuesday will feel milder compared to Monday, with temperatures widely reaching double figures. It will be largely dry throughout the day but mostly cloudy, with the best chance of any sunny spells across Scotland. There is the chance of some light rain or drizzle for England and Wales, especially in the west, although most places will stay dry for the most part. 

Wednesday will be similar to Tuesday, with the chance of some rain and drizzle in the south and particularly west of the country. The best of the sunshine will again be in Scotland, with the northeast holding onto it longest. The band of rain will move northwards through the afternoon, potentially becoming heavier over western parts of Scotland into the evening. Thursday will turn windier with a band of heavy rain moving southeastwards across the country; behind this, showers will move in across Scotland overnight.

Once the remnants of the front clear the far southeast on Friday there will be largely clear skies, giving plenty of sunny spells, although still with the chance of showers particularly in the north and west. The showers look set to continue into the weekend and with it also turning colder, these showers could turn wintry even to low levels in the north. Overnight frosts can be expected and it will also be breezy.

Monday 20 November—Sunday 26 November
Staying cold but plenty of sunshine

The colder conditions are expected to continue with the potential for some persistent rain across the south at first, with snow over higher ground. Further north it will be largely dry but cold and breezy. By the middle of the week, high pressure will dominate with cold northerly or easterly winds, giving plenty of dry and sunny weather. However with these clear skies, overnight frosts are likely, so allow extra time to scrape the car in the morning.

Monday 27 November—Sunday 3 December
Still holding onto some sunshine

High pressure is likely to continue into December, meaning there will still be prolonged sunshine but feeling cold. We may see some fronts managing to push into the north bringing rain or snow at times, with some milder spells working up into the south.

Next week

We may return to milder conditions into December, check out next week's update to find out more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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just had my first rant on the local FB page. The -7C headline and colder than Moscow has filtered through to Market Drayton - and of course very worried people are asking what the local authority has in place for when it hits..... sensationalist journalism is not welcome any time but particular these few months...just causes worry and anxiety

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James Madden, forecaster for Exacta Weather, said: “We now expect to move into a period of  more severe and prolonged cold.

“During these colder periods there will be an increased risk for some large low pressure systems to hit our shores bringing the risk for significant and widespread snow across swathes of the country as they clash with the colder air.

“The real risk will come from the snow amounts that we can expect within this period from the extra moisture.

“If we consider precipitation amounts and flooding  during the previously mild winters and replace this with snow, then on average we can expect 10 to 13 inches of snow for every inch of rain that should have fallen.

“In some circumstances and providing the conditions and temperatures are at an optimum - then we can even expect up to 15 inches of snow for every inch of rain.”

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/879066/UK-snow-weather-forecast-La-Nina-weather-warning-BBC-weather-Met-Office-forecast-winter

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Southern Water drought warning as dry winter looms

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Warnings the South East could face a drought have come from a supplier as a second dry winter looms. Ian McAulay, Southern Water chief executive, said water restrictions next summer were "certainly part of our scenario". Figures from the company showed Bewl Water reservoir in Kent was at 34% and Darwell reservoir in Sussex is at 43%. Two other Sussex reservoirs are better stocked - Powdermill is at 79% and Weir Wood is at 78%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42019134

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 20 November—Sunday 26 November

Cold and dry to warm and wet.

The weekend ended with some bright and crisp weather across the UK; but chilly with it, temperatures on Sunday morning as low as -4C. In contrast, the week has started much milder as low pressure has brought thicker cloud and rain from the west. Temperatures through this week are expected to reach up to 15C, that's around 6C warmer than average for mid November. There is however a price to pay for the milder temperatures as warmer air can hold more moisture. So it's looking like we can expect a fair amount of rain this week; more so in the west than the east, and some stronger winds at times. We can also expect some snow over Scottish mountains, which will be more common sight as we approach the winter.

Monday 27 November—Sunday 3 December

A contrast in lattitude

Next week the mild and at times damp theme looks set to continue for the southern half of the UK as bands of rain interspersed with drier periods arrive from the west. Further north there may be some brighter, showery interludes at times but there remains a signal for snow, especially over higher ground over Scotland, and it is here that we may see temperatures dip below average.

Monday 4 December—Sunday 17 December

And on into winter....

Current trends are suggesting that slow moving weather patterns look more likely to be established as we move into winter with the chance of some longer, drier but colder spells becoming more frequent.

Next week

We are focussing on the mild but somewhat unpredictable weather this week as low pressure systems from the Atlantic bring moisture and warmth to the UK. We will see periods of rain interspersed with drier spells, however the timing and the distribution of the weather this week will be hard to pin down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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Winter is coming: Increasingly cold air could mean snow for England this weekend

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Southern England could become a wintry wonderland this weekend, with snowfall possible on Friday and Saturday. Those living in northern Scotland are braced for freezing conditions - including snow - through Wednesday night and into Thursday, with strong winds then expected to bring the cold air down into the South.

Rain is the initial forecast for the region, but there may be snowfall late on Friday and into the weekend. Sky News Weather Presenter Isobel Lang explained: "Before the cold air reaches southern Britain, a spell of strong winds and rain is forecast. "However, there is a risk of snow late Friday and into Saturday, probably mainly over hills, as the wet weather clears from southern or southeast England and the cold air is drawn down into the system."

 

https://news.sky.com/story/winter-is-coming-increasingly-cold-air-could-mean-snow-for-england-this-weekend-11137207

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2 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

UK weather ALERT: Floods to turn into FROZEN LAKES as snow to hit Britain in polar blast

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/883509/UK-weather-warning-floods-snow-forecast-Britain-BBC-weather-Met-Office-warning

phew.... glad the express have their fingers on the pulse... hate to accuse them of scaremongering:rofl:

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 27 November—Sunday 3 December
Gloves, hats and thick coats for start of winter

It will remain cold for much of this week as winds will be blowing all the way from the Arctic. High pressure to the west of us and low pressure to the east will produce strong northerly winds into the early part of December. However this week is starting off on a less cold note, a band of rain clearing the south coast on Monday morning accompanied by milder air from the Atlantic. The cold air will return from the north during Monday and persisting up to the weekend. The strongest winds during the week will be over eastern areas with gales at times along the east coast. There will also be frequent showers over northern and eastern areas, these showers falling as snow on higher ground and even some sleet to lower levels too. There will be an ice risk at nights The driest and brightest weather will be over western areas from southwest Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and the western half of England. Here long sunny spells by day but widespread frosts at nights. Towards the end of the week, we will begin to see a change to less cold conditions. Atlantic air will feed around the top of the high pressure bringing cloudy skies and patchy rain which will extend southwards across the country during the weekend.

Monday 4 December—Sunday 10 December
The cold air fights back

After a briefly milder interlude at the start of the meteorological winter, it does look as though the cold Arctic air will become re-established across the British Isles. We will gradually lose the grey, damp conditions and replace them with blue skies and blustery showers. The showers will be mainly across northern Scotland but also affecting coastal areas further south. They will fall as snow on higher ground and even some sleet to low levels at times. Inland areas away from the north will enjoy sunny skies by day with frosty conditions at nights. The main feature of the weather will be the biting northerly wind with many layers of clothing required if you are planning to be outside for any length of time. Temperatures throughout the week look set to remain a degree or two below where they should be in early December.

Monday 11 December—Sunday 24 December
Remaining cold but for how long?

At this stage it does look as through the cold weather will persist during the middle part of December with only very small, slow moving changes in the weather pattern. There will continue to be sunny spells and scattered showers, the showers falling as snow on higher ground and possibly to lower levels as the heavier showers pass by. There will be widespread frosts at nights and also the risk of icy stretches. As we move into the second half of December, there is an increasing chance of seeing spells of milder weather with outbreaks of rain and also windy. This will be as a result of further pulses of air pushing in from the Atlantic. However the overall signal from all the various weather computer models is for temperatures to remain on the cold side.


Next week

Its Christmas.... will it be white? Watch this space.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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2 hours ago, Turnedoutniceagain said:

Erm soo the front page of today's Express Nathan Rao states it will be a 1-month freeze

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Yet online he's telling us it will be 2-months https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/884045/UK-weather-BBC-weather-latest-snow-ice-freeze-cold

:cc_confused:

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ICE ICE READY Drivers warned of dangerous icy roads as sub-zero temperatures hit UK – before Big Freeze brings -10C on Thursday

There are predictions we could see a repeat of the Arctic weather which froze the country seven years ago, causing travel chaos

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5015853/uk-weather-warning-ice-roads-temperatures-forecast-drivers-freezing/

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 4 December—Sunday 10 December
Mild at first, then wet and windy, then very cold!

The working week will get off to a relatively settled and chilly start, with high pressure centred to the southwest of the British Isles. Any mist and fog patches will slowly lift through the morning, leading to a mostly dry day with variable amounts of cloud and a relatively mild feel. Western districts may received the odd spot of drizzle.

Tuesday will be largely similar to Monday, with the exception that westerly winds will strengthen across central and northern parts of the UK as the high pressure system recedes into the near continent. By Wednesday, winds will back around to the southwest and strengthen significantly, making for a mild and windy day for much of the UK with fairly widespread gales developing, particularly around coasts. Western areas will be increasingly affected by rain though, as an Atlantic low pressure system edges in from the west. Indeed, the rain will slowly become quite heavy across parts of western Scotland and northwest England.

Overnight into Thursday, the low pressure system and its attendant fronts and rain bands will sweep southeast. A very cold and strong northwesterly wind will follow. Showers will turn increasingly wintry, with snow on the higher ground of the north. Many inland areas will stay mostly dry and sunny, but despite the sunshine, conditions will feel bitterly cold. Expect a very cold day on Friday with a cold northerly wind and further wintry showers affecting many parts that will turn increasingly to snow at lower levels. Coastal districts will most likely experience showers, but even some central parts of the UK could be see wintry showers too.

Through Saturday, forecast confidence is relatively low, but the most likely scenario is that the cold northerly winds will start to abate, with the possibility of conditions turning slightly less cold and more settled by Sunday.

Monday 11 December—Sunday 17 December
Not much sign of any lengthy milder interludes!

As we head into the middle of December, the majority of computer forecasting models suggest that weather patterns across the UK will tend to change very slowly. The favoured forecast theme for this period is that the jet stream will develop long, often narrow north/south meandering kinks that will only very slowly traverse the North Atlantic towards our shores. Such an eventuality will mean that the UK will often be in cold air of polar origin, as the UK will mainly lie on the cold side of the jet stream. Occasionally though, Atlantic low pressure systems will likely cross the UK from northwest to southeast, bringing milder air across mainly southern parts of the country.

This means that it is likely that most parts of the UK will experience fairly lengthy spells of colder weather. Frosty nights with patchy fog, followed by chilly days that combine sunny spells and showers (often of a wintry nature in the north) will be the main theme. Any low pressure systems that occasionally move across the Atlantic will likely introduce slightly milder interludes, mainly for southern parts of the country. Milder interludes will be accompanied by rain though, with northern edges of any rain areas introducing the threat of snow for some central and northern parts of the UK at times.

A weather phenomena known as the Madden-Julian Oscillation is also currently lending confidence to our UK forecast for this period. Across the tropics, a pulse of convective cloud (that manifests as thunderstorms) tends to move from west to east across the globe once every 30 to 60 days. Research has revealed a link between the position of this convective activity, and weather conditions across UK several days into the future. The current phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation lends good support to the idea that the UK will be experience mainly slow changes in weather conditions through much of the month. Indeed, other meteorological phenomena occurring in other parts of the atmosphere also lend support to the latest UK forecast.

Monday 18 December—Sunday 31 December
Still on the cold side!

By the end of the calendar year, there isn't a particularly high level of consensus in the details of the UK weather forecast. That said, some data suggests that pressure will tend to be lower towards the south and west, with high pressure dominating towards the north and east. Such a synoptic pattern will lead to a continuation in colder than average conditions. Frosty nights, with cold days would be the most frequent and widespread occurrence, with the chance of wintry showers. Any wetter, milder interludes will likely be most prevalent further south, but with the jet stream forecast to continue to behave in a slowly meandering pattern, any such milder interludes will likely be fairly short-lived.

Of course, we're reaching the stage of the year when the weather question on the minds of many relates to the prospect of a white Christmas. At time of writing, it is simply just to early to give a definitive answer! As already discussed, the current favoured forecast solution for this period does lean towards conditions often being slightly colder than average, so we cannot rule out the possibility that somewhere in the UK (most likely further north) might see some snow at some point during the festive period. Regardless, it is very important to state that confidence in any forecast regarding this matter at this particular point in time is too low to lend any credibility to any definitive statements. Keep in touch with the BBC Weather Centre to stay abreast of the latest thinking!

Next week

New year, new weather. But what form are January's weather patterns likely to take? Find out next week ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook

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