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  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire

    Woo, University of Reading xD

    Woo, 2 of my lecturers xD

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    With state of the art technology and the latest info available at the flick of a switch I fail to see why the public should have to put up with out of date forecasts. In this fast moving situation its

    I've only gone and done it. This went to the Press Complaints Commission this morning....         1i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including

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  • Location: Truro, Cornwall
  • Weather Preferences: Winter - Heavy Snow Summer - Hot with Night time Thunderstorms
  • Location: Truro, Cornwall

    Oh dear Kate Humble, November is NOT the start of Winter! http://hw.nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png

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  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire

    Well apart from some stupid errors from Kate, I thought that was brilliant. Certainly better than the usual dumbed down rubbish you get these days.

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  • Location: Bratislava (240m)
  • Location: Bratislava (240m)

    It definitely got better as it progressed. I thought it provided a balanced view of long-range forecasting, reminding that it cannot nail the specifics and that we shouldn't rely on them too much when planning for winter (surely you prepare for the worst regardless).

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    For what it's worth I thought the programme was good and enlightening. For example I didn't realise Morrisons had a contract with the Netweather Forums. Just to add the worst nightmare. When rain precedes snow regarding gritting.

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  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Summer:sunny, some Thunder,Winter:cold & snowy spells,Other:transitional
  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.

    T'was good, yep!

    I liked the quote along the lines of "Just where do the newspaper agencies get their forecasts from?"

    I think we know some of the muppets and those who ain't, but they will be no extra publicity from me in that regard.

    Cheers

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria

    Good viewing on BBC2, a few mistakes from Kate but overall quite good. So the Meto aren't expecting a particularly cold Winter but they did make clear that anyone who tries to predict and state exactly what the weather will be doing in a month or twos time is a fool.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    i did wait in anticipation when they showed the newspaper headlines, as to whether James Madden would make an appearance. fortunately, they didn't dignify him with even a mention and as was said during the programme, forecasting specifics months in advance is impossible. i hope he was watching!

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    Wasn;t to bad I thought, just highlighted the same arguments that go on, on here every winter!

    Surely that's the point. Everyone on here is an expert whereas the programme was aimed at the general public.

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  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Summer:sunny, some Thunder,Winter:cold & snowy spells,Other:transitional
  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.

    Good viewing on BBC2, a few mistakes from Kate but overall quite good. So the Meto aren't expecting a particularly cold Winter but they did make clear that anyone who tries to predict and state exactly what the weather will be doing in a month or twos time is a fool.

    That's not specifically correct, rather that the MetO guy (not sure of his name?) was suggesting this for predictions on a specific day i.e Xmas day, in his case.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    i noticed they did show a glimpse of the netweather website!

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  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire

    They also showed a glimpse of the Met Office high resolution UKV model. I've seen some of the charts close up and they are incredibly detailed. If only we had access to such data!

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    Surely that's the point. Everyone on here is an expert whereas the programme was aimed at the general public.

    miiaooow!!!

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria

    That's not specifically correct, rather that the MetO guy (not sure of his name?) was for someone predicting a specific day i.e Xmas day, in his case.

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    gottolovethisweather

    Much the same thing, was it really worth that sort of nitpicking

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    That's not specifically correct, rather that the MetO guy (not sure of his name?) was for someone predicting a specific day i.e Xmas day, in his case.

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    gottolovethisweather

    Ewen McCallum. Still going strong. He once sat on one of my promotion boards. Streuth I'm going for the violin.

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  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Summer:sunny, some Thunder,Winter:cold & snowy spells,Other:transitional
  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.

    They also showed a glimpse of the Met Office high resolution UKV model. I've seen some of the charts close up and they are incredibly detailed. If only we had access to such data!

    One day Nick, you can arrange it for us all.

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    gottolovethisweather

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  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire

    One day Nick, you can arrange it for us all.

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    gottolovethisweather

    Maybe, just maybe :D

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  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Summer:sunny, some Thunder,Winter:cold & snowy spells,Other:transitional
  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.

    Ewen McCallum. Still going strong. He once sat on one of my promotion boards. Streuth I'm going for the violin.

    Thanks, seen him on TV before, seems very knowledgeable and level headed. :good:

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire

    For what it's worth I thought the programme was good and enlightening. For example I didn't realise Morrisons had a contract with the Netweather Forums. Just to add the worst nightmare. When rain precedes snow regarding gritting.

    No neither did I and I work there :p
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  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Summer:sunny, some Thunder,Winter:cold & snowy spells,Other:transitional
  • Location: Newbury, Berkshire. 107m ASL.

    Much the same thing, was it really worth that sort of nitpicking

    No and yes. Specifics, I'm not generalising and Ewan was referring to a specific date down the line. Currently Xmas day is t+1152 if my maths are correct? So even Einstein couldn't nail that day at this range. Hope that helps, Liam. :good:

    Mind you, it just shows how easy it is to misquote someone. Our very own Paul M, knows that to his cost in recent months. :80:

    Us humans are not infallible and neither are numerical models.

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    gottolovethisweather

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  • Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland (20m asl, near coast)
  • Weather Preferences: Any weather will do.
  • Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland (20m asl, near coast)

    Enjoyed it, mainly because I could shout at the screen and let everyone know what they were about to say.

    In regards to the mistakes at the start, was December2010 not the Coldest December for over a century?

    October was "One" of the Warmest Octobers on record aswell, not the warmest.

    Can't complain though, they were just minor mistakes.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    did anyone spot kate's grit error? she said there are an extra 1500 tons of grit stockpiled around the country for this winter. yet glasgow holds 22,000 tons of grit alone and upwards of 50,000 tons of grit can be used per day!!

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria

    No and yes. Specifics, I'm not generalising and Ewan was referring to a specific date down the line. Currently Xmas day is t+1152 if my maths are correct? So even Einstein couldn't nail that day at this range. Hope that helps, Liam. :good:

    Mind you, it just shows how easy it is to misquote someone. Our very own Paul M, knows that to his cost in recent months. :80:

    Us humans are not infallible and neither are numerical models.

    Kind Regards

    gottolovethisweather

    The 25th of December is just under two months away, anyone predicting that it will categorically snow on this date is trying to state exactly what the weather will be doing two months into the future, which is what I posted.

    Anyway that's it no more bickering, thanks. :)

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

    Thanks, seen him on TV before, seems very knowledgeable and level headed. :good:

    I had to smile at that comment.

    He is the head of the forecast division at the Met Office!

    Ewen McCallum. Still going strong. He once sat on one of my promotion boards. Streuth I'm going for the violin.

    yep, I'll join you-he was one of the lecturers on my AFC (Advanced Forecast Course), I could tell a story about him but won't!

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