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New thread to discuss February's chances of a return to the freezer/snow.

Fingers crossed everyone!

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http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

low pressure in the atlantic is probably why

the charts are still confusing

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn1441.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn1681.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn2161.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png

the charts are confusing again but if you

look at the fax chart and the the gfs charts

you can see some sort of possible scenario

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=1&map=1&archive=0

this is better and hopefully correct this merits a :yahoo:

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Part 31 deserves a little :clap:

And so do the charts JP :yahoo: :yahoo: :cold: :cold:

Cross everything :clap:

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http://www.meteociel...fax/fax120s.gif

low pressure in the atlantic is probably why

the charts are still confusing

http://www.wzkarten3...s/Rtavn1441.png

http://www.wzkarten3...s/Rtavn1681.png

http://www.wzkarten3...s/Rtavn1921.png

http://www.wzkarten3...s/Rtavn2161.png

http://www.wzkarten3...s/Rtavn2401.png

the charts are confusing again but if you

look at the fax chart and the the gfs charts

you can see some sort of possible scenario

http://www.meteociel...map=1&archive=0

this is better and hopefully correct this merits a :yahoo:

I love that last meteociel chart, tight isobars with low pressure in a deep plunge of cold over our area.

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http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

low pressure in the atlantic is probably why

the charts are still confusing

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn1441.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn1681.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn2161.png

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png

the charts are confusing again but if you

look at the fax chart and the the gfs charts

you can see some sort of possible scenario

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=1&map=1&archive=0

this is better and hopefully correct this merits a :yahoo:

JP, The low is being too progressive by the model output. Expect the models to come into line soon with the low slowing down

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Still far too early to get remotely excited as this mornings GFS run shows :(

The period we are looking at for the earliest chance of cold at the moment is mid week next week which for cold / snow lovers is an eternity away as far as how much models can and will change in the next 10 days.

Still, we must cling to that glimmer of hope as all the models have shown signs of varying degrees of cold coming back over the last few days.

Personally if you want to justify using :cold::clap::yahoo::drunk: and :help: then it shouldn't be until Sunday but then only if it's still showing cold returing 3 days later otherwise I fear it will be lots of :nonono::diablo::fool::oops: and :shok: instead.

Just saw a frost on my car, maybe it's a sign......

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Frost this morning and a low of 0.9C? wasn't expecting that, today looks out of place with the dull rest of the week.

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Have been watching this thread with interest as I would love to see a return to cold weather. How lovely was it this morning with crisp frost on the grass and clear blue sky, Winter to me should be cold and snowy, windy wet and mild is reserved for Oct/Nov!!!

Anyway, Yamkin, I know you are a fan or user of the weather outlook and their confidence of the cold returning to Eastern areas is quite low although they are watching it...whats your opinion? is it just because the charts are up and down?

I do love a ramp though so keep rampin yamkin!!!!!!!!!!!

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Have been watching this thread with interest as I would love to see a return to cold weather. How lovely was it this morning with crisp frost on the grass and clear blue sky, Winter to me should be cold and snowy, windy wet and mild is reserved for Oct/Nov!!!

Anyway, Yamkin, I know you are a fan or user of the weather outlook and their confidence of the cold returning to Eastern areas is quite low although they are watching it...whats your opinion? is it just because the charts are up and down?

I do love a ramp though so keep rampin yamkin!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi archiesmummy, The MetO's further outlook on their website is covering all angles at the moment. The low pressure is really confusing some of the model outputs at the moment. By the weekend, I expect the models to get a much better grip on the low pressure positioning. I can see the rigorous low pressure losing steam so to speak and another low undercutting to the far South of the English Channel where the Sandi High will gather force with bitter cold conditions from the East. BOM model is a gem tonight. Just watch the other models follow later in the week :D:cold: :cold: :clap::yahoo:

Enjoy the latest from BOM :smiliz19: :wub:

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Hi archiesmummy, The MetO's further outlook on their website is covering all angles at the moment. The low pressure is really confusing some of the model outputs at the moment. By the weekend, I expect the models to get a much better grip on the low pressure positioning. I can see the rigorous low pressure losing steam so to speak and another low undercutting to the far South of the English Channel where the Sandi High will gather force with bitter cold conditions from the East. BOM model is a gem tonight. Just watch the other models follow later in the week :D:cold: :cold: :clap::yahoo:

Enjoy the latest from BOM :smiliz19: :wub:

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BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Yamkin, I really hope it does get cold again, i really hate mild weather!!!:wallbash:

Those charts are like looking at a little piece of heaven!!!

:clap: :clap: :clap::yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

RAMP IT UP!!!!!!!

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http://91.121.84.31/modeles/nogaps/run/nogapsnh-0-180.png?08-18

:whistling:

will update 18z charts and fax

i will bet 18z shows x rated charts tonight :smiliz19:

GFS output issues with 18Z this evening. When refreshing the GFS page, diffrent outputs were visible after two refreshing atempts. I think NOAA will have something to say about the strange GFS 18Z output.

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3722.png :smiliz19:

just for fun

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax72s.gif 2 large low pressure

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax96s.gif 2 low pressure systems 1 average 1 small

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif 2 large low pressure systems appear

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

the charts tonight really seem all over the place

even the fax charts look odd which is strange

my opinion is that the atlantic will not be as strong

as shown and if any low pressure systems do appear

they will probably head south below us as the jet

stream looks to head south around the 12th onwards

let see what the ensembles show shortly

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Hi all!! great to see the snow potential increasing, i do like the milder evenings, although cold monday night the mild air back today, just this time rain risk, i did like the gale or near gale that lasted 3or4 days with mostly dry and mild, the trees roaring and humming as i walked home late at night on one of the nights, anyway imagine if it was cold air with no ppn! i prefer cold only if snow is in the forecast or a sparkling frost.

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00Z,oh just gets better,seems to me we are in the reliable now, All the mild is in FI and the cold well perfect.

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And to our left we have the philips electric triple head razor effect........

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Sorry but we are a long way from the reliable, I believe the reliable is about 3-4 days and the promised Easterky / return to cold is still 8-10 days away.

Sure we are seeig charts with maybe some colder air for the weekend but that won't result in any significant snow if any.

The perios we are interested in is starting mid week next week to next weekend.

My understanding is that we want your razor blade mess to head SE to settle to the South of the UK and the mess in stuff to the NE of us to head NW and settle over Green land and then we will be in cold NE / E / SE winds depending where everything pans out.

Still a long way to go yet but it is a possibility but at the same time it not hapening is equally possible.

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Will Hand is also going for colder conditions setting in :D:cold::clap::yahoo:

'Turning bitterly cold on Saturday with risk of snow coming in on a freshening E to NE wind. Temperatures falling to around freezing by day' http://www.lyneside....discussions.htm

Very precise yamakin hope hes right.

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Will Hand is also going for colder conditions setting in :D:cold::clap::yahoo:

'Turning bitterly cold on Saturday with risk of snow coming in on a freshening E to NE wind. Temperatures falling to around freezing by day' http://www.lyneside....discussions.htm

If you look at the date then you will see that that forecast was issued last Thursday (3rd), so that forecast is going to be totally wrong, with temperatures around 8-9C on Saturday with varying cloud and sunshine amounts.

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If you look at the date then you will see that that forecast was issued last Thursday (3rd), so that forecast is going to be totally wrong, with temperatures around 8-9C on Saturday with varying cloud and sunshine amounts.

He could be a day out or two as John Hammond on BBC said tonight that it will turn much colder on Sunday.

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1262.png

massive potential from the east

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/bome_cartes.php?&ech=192&mode=0&carte=0

just for yamkin :drinks:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

some more members picking up on colder option

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

fax charts are starting to show the low pressure heading south

also the jet stream is also going south again

once the models pick up on weak atlantic,jet stream going south

low heading south of us i would expect to see some very good runs

showing up by thursday or friday

the odd thing is on the fax chart we have the 528 dam line over us

which will start to cool down the temperatures even with the SW wind

next 2 days will be very interesting watching the models and to be honest

i feel the cold air will win but we just need a couple of more days

to firm it up :drunk:

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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1262.png

massive potential from the east

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/bome_cartes.php?&ech=192&mode=0&carte=0

just for yamkin :drinks:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

some more members picking up on colder option

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax120s.gif

fax charts are starting to show the low pressure heading south

also the jet stream is also going south again

once the models pick up on weak atlantic,jet stream going south

low heading south of us i would expect to see some very good runs

showing up by thursday or friday

the odd thing is on the fax chart we have the 528 dam line over us

which will start to cool down the temperatures even with the SW wind

next 2 days will be very interesting watching the models and to be honest

i feel the cold air will win but we just need a couple of more days

to firm it up :drunk:

Very good post JP. Have you noticed the weather forecasters on BBC are now saying it WILL turn much colder from Sunday? :clap::D:cold::yahoo:

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