Solar and Aurora Activity Chat

[SteveB]

Moved onto 16 days.

228 days fr 2009 79%

There is the smallest of the small sunspot, but as of yet Noaa have not and should not count it.

[The PIT]

Moved onto 16 days.

228 days fr 2009 79%

There is the smallest of the small sunspot, but as of yet Noaa have not and should not count it.

They like tiny tims so it'll probably get counted.

[BLAST FROM THE PAST]

The depth of this minima in cycle 23 over to 24 is fascinating. This leads me more to believe that we will supercede a Dalton Minina and indeed more of a Maunder Minima beckons. Landscheidt believed tis and I have looked at his work and I believe he's got it right.

BFTP

[MR EXTREMES]

The depth of this minima in cycle 23 over to 24 is fascinating. This leads me more to believe that we will supercede a Dalton Minina and indeed more of a Maunder Minima beckons. Landscheidt believed tis and I have looked at his work and I believe he's got it right.

BFTP

he could well be if you have not read the post by jethro with the link to tsi post then its a must read infact theres more that think maunder type is on the way.

[SteveB]

Moved onto 17 spotless days.

228 days in 2009 79%

looks like the activity reported yesterday didn't amount to anything

[OldGreggsTundraBoy]

I think the suns dead peeps, sorry! >.>

Moved onto 17 spotless days.

228 days in 2009 79%

looks like the activity reported yesterday didn't amount to anything

its too bad we haven't broken the 92 day record yet, i think if we do, we should consider it maunder minimum time probs.

[SteveB]

Anything is possible with this minimum. I wouldn't like to hazard a guess as to where we go from here.

But heres hoping for a very long Minimum

[Guest North Sea Snow Convection]

Anything is possible with this minimum. I wouldn't like to hazard a guess as to where we go from here.

But heres hoping for a very long Minimum

I think you said it all really. The actual focus as we know is in terms of how this protracted minimum affects the C24 maxima...and then the implications beyond that for the following cycle

[SteveB]

I think you said it all really. The actual focus as we know is in terms of how this protracted minimum affects the C24 maxima...and then the implications beyond that for the following cycle

I find it all highly fasinating, and really looking forward to seeing how it all unfolds.

[mountain shadow]

Is their a recordable amount of energy from the sun?

I.e. can we say that due to the prolonged solar minimum the earth is receiving approximately x amount less energy than average?

If so, it is surely logical to assume that the earth should get colder, or at least warm less?

[gigabite]

2009-Oct-17 04:06 zulu Venus & Mercury align.

LASCOC2

http://sohodata.nasc...-bin/data_query

A little CME before the alignment.

Edited October 19, 2009 by gigabite

[gigabite]

Is their a recordable amount of energy from the sun?

I.e. can we say that due to the prolonged solar minimum the earth is receiving approximately x amount less energy than average?

If so, it is surely logical to assume that the earth should get colder, or at least warm less?

I think it is about the size of the Sun. When the Sun is more active it is larger. The techniques used to measure Suns output uses an inference and some offset math, and it is such a large distance that small differences in the constants can cause some hefty anomalies. A mission is planned in the near future that will get some direct measurement. Just to get a spacecraft to survive a trip to Venus requires some engineering, and that is only about 1/4 of the way there. What we need is long term real time data from "L3" (the back side of the Sun.)

There is an inverse relationship between heat and distance.

Edited October 19, 2009 by gigabite

[SteveB]

18 days,

229 spotless in 2009 79%.

But there is a region on the stereo behind to keep an eye on.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm

http://spaceweather.com/

[SteveB]

Well that was that, a blink and you miss it spot which has brought the run to an end

Sunspot 1028 formed but quickly disappeared.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm

http://spaceweather.com/

[MR EXTREMES]

I cant see anything lol that is the smallest ive ever SEEN.

i can see how they bothered with it.

[SteveB]

I cant see anything lol that is the smallest ive ever SEEN.

i can see how they bothered with it.

At least activity should hopefully remain low, although another small region may be coming into view on the Eastern limb.

If we are to have an active period which should be expected as SC24 starts to reach it's maximum period, then I am more than happy if the only sunpot activity are these tiny little spots.

[MR EXTREMES]

At least activity should hopefully remain low, although another small region may be coming into view on the Eastern limb.

If we are to have an active period which should be expected as SC24 starts to reach it's maximum period, then I am more than happy if the only sunpot activity are these tiny little spots.

Oh yes absolutely the smaller and the less amount the better,

so do you think the minimum will be below nasa prediction because i think so.

Well i hope so lol.

[mountain shadow]

To be honest I think we're to hung up on spot counting. A couple of small spots here and there ain't going to make much difference than no spots at all.

[Anti-Mild]

Well that was that, a blink and you miss it spot which has brought the run to an end

Sunspot 1028 formed but quickly disappeared.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm

http://spaceweather.com/

You see this is why there can be no comparison between this current minimum and the Dalton or Maunder minimums. There is no way possible that sunspot 1028 would have been picked up 200 years ago, yet it's enough of a spot to give an SSN of 11. Modern technology is going to skew the data when taken in comparison to data obtained prior to the advent of this technology.

[SteveB]

You see this is why there can be no comparison between this current minimum and the Dalton or Maunder minimums. There is no way possible that sunspot 1028 would have been picked up 200 years ago, yet it's enough of a spot to give an SSN of 11. Modern technology is going to skew the data when taken in comparison to data obtained prior to the advent of this technology.

That's exactly my argument with modern methods and comparing them to previous ways of gathering data.

There really should be two counts.

1.Modern

2.Pre Modern

[OldGreggsTundraBoy]

That's exactly my argument with modern methods and comparing them to previous ways of gathering data.

There really should be two counts.

1.Modern

2.Pre Modern

Who cares if solar activity's low, then its low.

They try to make SSN counts as unbiased as possible.

To be honest I think we're to hung up on spot counting. A couple of small spots here and there ain't going to make much difference than no spots at all.

Too right

[jonboy]

The counting of sunspots is important because the likes of Hansen use it to compare cycles and therefore to verify their views of what maybe round the corner.

It does not suite nasa to have a very low sunspot count when their own prediction appears at this time to be way over the top.

[SteveB]

Well the sunspot has gone and we are back to spotless day's again.

The counting of sunspots is very important as it is as Jonboy Say's, a way of observing the suns cycles and determining how active it is.

Activity looks to be on the increase with a couple of active regions showing on the stereo behind.

Could this be the beginnings of an active period?.

Edited October 22, 2009 by SteveB

[MR EXTREMES]

Well the sunspot has gone and we are back to spotless day's again.

The counting of sunspots is very important as it is as Jonboy Say's, a way of observing the suns cycles and determining how active it is.

Activity looks to be on the increase with a couple of active regions showing on the stereo behind.

Could this be the beginnings of an active period?.

to be honest activity seems to behind most of the time and even then its still very low.

and why is this here have a ?mark.

is this because of the area it is surely not old cycle 23.

http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Edited October 22, 2009 by badboy657

[SteveB]

2 blank days for now, but another Sunspot is trying to form.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm