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40 minutes ago, Uncertainty said:
Bev I would say model agreement is actually already higher than average due to the ssw, take a look at the mean anomalies of the big 3 ensemble sets at 360(!) hours out…
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I would hazard that the ssw is responsible for this agreement. The MO often state that a super strong OR super weak PV increases the general accuracy of trop forecasts. The above is testament to that.
Hope that helps and agree your question and others of new/learning/any members should be addressed to foster cohesion and togetherness on this thread.
Thanks ‘Uncertainty’ for taking the time to go back and look at my original question and provide an answer. Hope it helps a few other rank amateurs who may not have the confidence to post, and also help some of the other experienced users realise that their knowledge shared is very much appreciated
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7 minutes ago, Uncertainty said:
I’m surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for this spell on this thread. We spend years looking for charts like this and now they’re coming there’s barely any interest.
I looked back through the 2018 threads and the difference is remarkable: joy, anticipation, camaraderie, detailed analysis. This time I’m sorry to say it’s been cynicism, doubt and a general feeling of ‘whatever’.
This is not a diss at any one person, on the contrary, it is a call to arms: Let’s inject some passion and excitement (not to be confused with hyperbole or inaccuracy mind) into this thread. We may be looking at an exceptional late Feb/early March spell (as many of us have been suggesting for months) and our commentary will be vital for many learners and observers looking for the truth amongst the ridiculous headlines and naysayers. As I have stressed before, the internet is quick to judge this thread and it’s reputation has taken a hiding in recent years. We spend enough time on here… let’s make it worthwhile
First up: The icon has snow showers peppering the east coast early next week. It has sharpened the initial amplification as the day has gone on, the jet angle is now near vertical.
This is a key component to a snowy easterly, and we should look closely at the gem and gfs to see if they can replicate or outdo it. The latter was a bit nondescript earlier. I have a feeling it’ll flip to an icon-esque outcome. We’ll know soon.
Thanks allJosh
To be fair, those of us who are very amateur but very interested, and often add a question on here usually get ignored by the more learned users (Me-page 127) so I’m not surprised there isn’t much enthusiasm generally
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Hopefully this hasn’t been discussed/answered yet but, at what point would the models start to give any accuracy towards the UK following the SSW completing it’s course?
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What are the chances of some spectacular thunder and lightning to accompany the forecasted rain come Saturday?
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6 minutes ago, Cold Winter Night said:
The snow and cold ultimately isn't directly the result of the SSW, but the pattern that delivers it very likely is.
In tandem with an already weak tropospheric and stratospheric polar vortex, and an MJO that helps too.Labelling patterns with 100% certainty is not possible, but the least you could say is it is very consistent with patterns that follow SSWs about 35 days after they have happened.
So it is historically consistent with the way models have appeared after such an event then I guess. Great answer and thank for upping my very amateur knowledge
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Right.....I may have missed this in the last 65 pages as I haven’t read them all but I have a question. Is the forthcoming days of cold/snow that at this point looks to be widespread, a direct result of the SSW and vortex displacement from a few weeks ago??
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1 hour ago, Premier Neige said:
Why are you even bothering looking at uppers a week away? It will no doubt change...
My guess would be because this is the model output discussion thread
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I can confirm that the Norwich streamer is actually more like a steamer.........no snow and no show
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1 minute ago, SF-02 said:
That band / streamer moving into Norwich looks to be just rain
I have just messaged a mate of mine in the red zone of that streamer, so will let you know what his lamp posts are telling him!
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I have to say the met office weather app has been complete garbage over the past 8 weeks (since winter started) especially when it comes to snow predictions for my area. Yesterday it was forecast with a double snow icon for around 3 hours, but two hours before it changed to cloudy with a light breeze, and the same again today. Same thing happened early Dec. Surely even the meto can virtually ‘nowcast’ and get it right occasionally
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2 hours ago, General Cluster said:
We have heavy snow! The inner child awakes!
I was walking the dogs over at the common during the heavy stuff! It was great and nicely cold
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Having grown up with the snow experiences of the 70’s and 80’s as a kid and how it was so much better then, i’m Close to calling the conditions outside ‘the worst locally i’ve ever known’. (Or the best.....but you know what I mean).
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Snow flakes pinging around in the wind here......just waiting for the dump to begin!!
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Just had a look at the night temps in Berlin through to Sunday week. I chose Berlin as it is obviously east of our east.....and the current and projected temps are well below zero for the next 9 days. Anyone on here that can predict those temps continuing through to our shores? If so, we’ll still be in the freezer in two weeks time........
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Is it too early to predict which Counties in our region will feel the fullest force of the coming event (crossing fingers that someone suggests Norfolk ?)
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Norfolk= bugger all once again!! Northerlies never work for us but Easterlies work for everyone. Not fair!!!
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Couldn't help but spend half an hour watching the snow falling here. Even got my 9 year old daughter up to watch.....the smile on her face is what makes me a coldie!!!!!
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Lovely clear sky tonight with a few shooting stars about as well. Pleasant enough for a little while at a time to watch the show.
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Despite the fact we all want a good bit of frost, snow, blizzards, power cuts....I hope we have some cold to kill off some of the hibernating wasp queens this winter. Last years mild winter means my apple trees and back garden are overrun with the annoying gits!!!!
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much love to iceni xxx
southernman just called and said very large flakes falling at reedham
edit - oh that's weird, when he called it was just drizzly rain stuff, but reading that its snowing in Beccles i looked again and its now snowing nicely here and settling everywhere even the road, but it can't have started very long ago.
If u check wunderground radar it looks as though we a going to stay 'clipped' for a little while
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It seems to be turning to snow...
I'm just up the road north of you and its a full on blizzard now....should be with you fully in about 10 mins!!!
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Snow in Norwich now. Very wet on the ground though (raining non stop for the last 3 hours and heavy at times)
Hope that starts sinking south by about 12 miles. I'm getting bored lamp post watching the rain!!!
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Shame, it looks quite heavy ?
Its very heavy, back garden is developing many lawn puddles. Shame the cold hasn't really developed here all day, we had a really heavy frost overnight but between 8 and 9am, it disappeared very quickly. Hoping the rain may drag down some cold air and get things kick started
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Now home from Norwich (12m South) and its now started dumping in this location. Seems to be following me around!!!! I best check if I just have bad dandruff actually.......
Model Output Discussion - Spring Has Sprung
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Drifter With you on that. But it’s been so lean for anything interesting this winter, everyone’s grasping at straws