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  1. Manley, in "Climate and the British Scene", wrote that in the 1939 winter, the coldest ever recorded, the maximum temperature in London on one day was below 15'F ( - 10'C) in a gale force easterly wind. I would have thought that might just fit the bill for -20'C uppers?
  2. My daughter and family moved out of Mytholmroyd to Halifax just 3 months before the huge flooding a few years ago. The house they left was flooded to a metre up the ground floor walls. Thankfully they are now on the side of a gentle hill and there's at least no chance of flooding for them there. But they left behind friends in the Calder valley and it was a devastating time for them. It's an horrendous thing, just as it has been for the people near Doncaster who are still trying to dry out their houses.
  3. I have to pick upon the comment re the 1962/63 winter. I lived in Birmingham aged 15 then and kept the Met Office recordings from their official Egbaston observatory. The highest temperature between Dec 22nd and March 1st was 4 degrees Celcius. The snow that fell on Boxing day was still there at the beginning of March. It truly was a classic.
  4. Thanks for that Pete. I should have mentioned that I have been getting the Met Office's 'Weather' magazine since 1964 and would really recommend it as a great 'feet on the ground' background reading matter. Some of the articles are far too technical for me but others are excellent for those who just enjoy weather. They also, incidentally, always come with the synoptic charts of the previous month. It's also interesting to do this once in a while. Take any great or noteworthy cold/snowy spell from the past - go to the historic charts for the period, online or the paper records that I
  5. I'm 73 and have been studying the weather and keeping records since I was a child, so, yes, I have experienced some great winters. [I lived in Birmingham during the 1962/63 winter, not far from the Met Office official observatory in Edgbaston, and records from there show a maximum temp of 4'C between December 22nd and March 1st. Some winter!] I've got a few observations to make. One is a riposte to the suggestions that, because of global warming, we will never get really cold weather digging in again. Well, late Feb and early March 2018 shows we can get very low temps in this country
  6. A decent lasting snowfall is the holy grail for me, but surely, frost and fog are also symbols of winter? Whatever, the synoptics the last few weeks have been so different to last years that I'll take anything if it means a rest from endless zonality. In any case, it's still November. If the next weeks charts were coming up in late January i'd be disappointed but not as yet.
  7. Re the influence of Novembers on the succeeding winters, well, I was a 15 yr old during Nov '62, living in Birmingham at the time and we had a northerly three days mid month, with three inches of snow on the ground, with a cold foggy end to the month.November 1946 was one of the mildest months on record. And both were followed by fantastic winters (from a coldies perspective that is).
  8. Re the definition of a polar low, I searched and found a back copy of my 'Weather' magazine and the article states: "A polar low has been defined (Met Office 1964) as a 'fairly small-scale cyclone or trough (sometimes the surface isobars show only a very minor ripple) embedded in a deep cold current which has recently left northerly latitudes.'" Make of that what you will but it would seem to suggest that the trough showing up to our north-east has been too clearly defined to be a true polar low.
  9. Adding to the record low uppers debate, in my copy of Prof Gordon Manley's 'Climate and the British Scene' now sadly out of print - (Manley it was who devised the CET) - in late December, 1739, the temp in London was 15' Fahrenheit (or -9'C) with an easterly gale blowing. Temp in Holland was -17'C or around zero Fahrenheit. That would suggest 850 uppers of around minus 25'C perhaps? Fascinating modelling atm. Tony47
  10. My apologies for putting it in a separate thread. I meant it to go in the media thread but I misunderstood what to do. No, I don't work for the Mail - perish the thought. It was just to show that the public generally are beginning to get hints re low sunspot activity and the possible effects on our climate.
  11. The Daily Mail today has a full pager regarding a cooling trend leading to harsher winters. It explores the position held by some climatologists that the reduction in solar output over the next 40 years or so, as evidenced by a huge drop in sunspots, will bring back the 'little ice age' scenario. Needless to say, other climatologist weigh in with the view that the Maunder minimum etc had little to do with the waxing and waning of the sun and more likely to do with volcanic activity. It's an interesting article but I don't think most seasoned Netweather members will find it adds anything
  12. I lived through 3 of the 4 Feb CET's below zero but comparisons are difficult as I was living in a different part of Britain each time - ie, 1956 - Edinburgh; 1963 - Birmingham; 1986 - near York. However they all register, with sledging on the Pentland hills (I was 9 at the time) in '56, sliding on frozen ponds in '63 and seeing bus windows permanently (so it seemed) frozen up on the inside on my way to school in Small Heath, and the hedge and grass 'scorching' in 86 on the fields around Pocklington (relatively little snow that winter away from the east coast fringes so little to blanket a
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