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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Which, if it verifies, means a weaker jet stream perhaps.....- 2,328 replies
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You could've fooled us NWS! There's 12 days of December left yet. A bit early to be giving up on next month!
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Strong jet stream looks ominous, but does it necessarily mean its going to plough straight through the UK or "over the top"?
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I think we're all at that crossroads where we're waiting for the background signals alluded to, to manifest themselves in a favourable model output. It's interesting but frustrating all at the same time. Cant help but thinking something is going to change suddenly but it's getting nerve-wracking!- 2,328 replies
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Something is definitely afoot!
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Indeed. The Atlantic height rises are getting more pronounced as each run goes by. A good trend.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
No, the bold bits of the blog were updated this morning. https://twitter.com/weathertrending/status/940490098197528576- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yes the blog is from 4 days ago, but he Tweeted a link at about 07:45 this morning stating he has updated it with the bits in bold. So the bold bits are from today. https://twitter.com/weathertrending/status/940490098197528576- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Whilst watching the model output in the next few days, it would be worth bearing in mind John Hammond's updated Blog, updated sections in bold published this morning. https://weathertrending.com/2017/12/08/on-the-horizon/amp/?__twitter_impression=true- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
One straw I can grasp this morning is a comparison to winter 1990/91: Major December snow event - check (remember Dec 1990!) Milder period after that. (Check out Christmas Day 1990, yuk). And keep your fingers and toes and everything else crossed for another Feb 1991! The output is not great at the moment if it's cold your after but without wanting to go over old ground there are still a few straws to clutch in various places.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Not in so many words! See the Model Tweets thread.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Well well, even out to T+180, no Atlantic intrusions to speak of are on offer. Yes the odds are in favour of this happening (I'm not in denial), but we can't say the output this season and today isn't without interest again. Gripping stuff!- 2,328 replies
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https://twitter.com/fergieweather/status/940167134881214466 https://twitter.com/fergieweather/status/940149880693166080 Highlights from the above Tweets:
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I don't think anyone is in denial at all TEITS. We all fully expect a milder period in the run up to Christmas, no one seems to be disputing that. It's after Christmas that is the period of interest, based upon the thoughts of GP and Tamara, and also the 16-30 day MO outlook which still states: UK Outlook for Monday 25 Dec 2017 to Monday 8 Jan 2018: During the Christmas period we are likely to see a transition from spells of wet and windy weather moving across the UK, towards more generally benign weather becoming established. This is likely to bring a mixture of colder, drier conditions and shorter lived milder, wetter and windier interludes. Snow is likely at times, especially in more northern and central parts of the UK. Temperatures will probably be below average overall.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Interesting GFS this morning. Whilst the ECM goes "mild" at T+144 and stays mild, the Atlantic never gets in on the GFS til low res. Lots to be resolved and although you would feel the return to milder weather may have the odds in its favour, it's not an open and shut case.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I don't disagree @frosty - we've been talking about this for a few days now. Beyond that..... all to play for!- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
But we've known this for quite a few days now Frosty. Everyone knows we're going to have a milder or "less cold" spell. The post suggested a worry about longer term outputs and I don't know why when many of our learned posters have suggesting a return to colder weather late in Dec/early Jan. Again we've known this for some days now. Now is the time to relax and wait and not unduly worry about the short/medium term output in my view. We are only 10 days into winter after all.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You really are a pessimist aren't you NWS ;-) You don't seem convinced by these apparent longer term signals then, and the fact that much of the model output at the minute (espcially the later stages) can be taken with a large pinch of salt? I don't see Ian F's tweet at particularly concerning tbh.- 2,328 replies
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Model output discussion - winter proper underway
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Not necessarily! The models will not be picking up on these background signals for a while yet, perhaps for another another 5-7 days in my view.- 2,328 replies
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Model Output Discussion - cold spell to end Autumn
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
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Model Output Discussion - cold spell to end Autumn
Paul_1978 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Well one thing's for sure, we're out to T+207 and it's hardly an Atlantic onslaught! -
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