Harsh Climate

Yeah I think when the blob currently over NE England hits the party will start.

I think it's going to take a couple of bites at the cherry before we get any stellar charts. 1. Deep cold Should enter Scandinavia/Eastern Europe/ Russia 2. We will probably just miss out on it with atlantic weather slightly favoured over the cold dry air. 3. Atlantic starts to lose it's influence late this month with colder air advecting closer to us. 4. Boom ECM, UKMO, GFS all in agreement of boom charts with -15 uppers crossing the country late january!

How's the parallel looking griff? You are the man to ask

Temperature stuck at 0.7c a tad higher than I'd like.

Yeah me too, think this evening could become interesting when that lot pushes in! The fact that when it pushes in should move north ~ south across us might keep that horrible mild SST influence at bay.

Yeah I think cookridge should deffo be alright! I reckon above 100m away from immediate coasts should be cold enough for a light covering tonight/tomorrow, maybe lower. If the wind comes off the land and not the mild seas (left or right lol) will greatly increase our chances. Temperature now fallen back down to 1.0c here in otley, light snow falling although bit wet.

Perputation 11 from GFS 6z esembles. If only! Lot's of eye candy now showing up in the esembles, I think before not too long the ECM and UKMO should produce a belter. I think with the SSW and deep cold atleast going to plunge into scaninavia/russia/eastern europe we have a lot to be optimistic about!

Been watching those showers approach otley as temperature was 0.3c. Now 0.6c as cloud approaches!

How many people would take this FI but GFS now toying with deep cold into scandinavia/eastern europe late january. If we can't get brutal cold over UK charts, this has to be next best thing.

Will be a dusting at best. The Highlands and southern uplands will eat most of it up, to be finally finished off by the dales..

Fingers crossed

According to accu weather radar, showers beefing up and streamers establishing from 6pm tonight, let's see! I have noticed from similar set-ups in the past, once the sun set's that's when the convergence seem to really get going from an easterly.. (EDIT - pics not showing for some reason)

Funny though if ECM backtracks and is very good and cold, we would be right back in the game. ECM v everything wouldn't be the worse horse to back. But obviously that's all relative at this stage.

Looks like later in the week we are in line for more snowfall, this time from the north

Hey your totals are way off the mark the dales north west leeds, past experience in this type of set up says 10cm plus in places there, I wouldn't be surprised with a 15cm fall somewhere like Greenhow Hill.. Especially looking at the latest Bracknell charts which show a long lasting convergence zone setting up shop. Once the snow starts settling and the showers lining up like a train some places gonna get plastered! Much lower areas there NW leeds I'm goin 2-7cm where streamers set up. Tuesday into Wednesday morning greatest risk.

Bracknell charts has convergence zone setting up shop over North Yorkshire Tuesday pushing a little south through the day. I think this is where our chance comes from. Past experience tells me we could be in for a special evening Tuesday into Wednesday morning!

. Yes certainly, I'm sure my girlfriend won't mind . Seriously though I'm expecting low lying areas that catch a streamer at the right time Monday night - Wednesday morning to get between 2-7cm and higher ground 10cm+. Obviously Tuesday day of highest risk.

Absolute nonsense, he has some good technical knowledge but those predictions are ridiculous. I bet any man here my left testicle and I will do there washing up and laundry for a month if that is correct! On Tuesday there will be some good lowland snow for many of us with some fantastic pics you mark my words :). And not a dig but he said last Tuesdays snow was restricted to ground above 150m or something like that, here in kippax (48m) I woke up to a good covering . This is why now casting and past experience can sometimes beat technical prowess and what you've read in a book.

I'd take no notice of those automated temperature forecasts. Over the years I've found them badly innacurate. Once heavy showers pile in tuesday they should be all snowespecialy at lba. If showers can get organised I wouldn't be suprised if some places tonight got a dusting/ light covering.

Some cold temps now coming in. leeds bradford airport 1c / -1c dewpoint, linton on oose -1c / -2c dewpoint.

ECM 96 hours, doesn't look any worse than 00z. Dare I say a tad better.

ECM coming out currently at 72h

Thats promising. Just looking on weatherworld obs that leeds and bradford reporting -1 dewpoint, bridlington 0c dewpoint! Thought the tide might just be turning.

From looking looking at GFS12z esembles at 240h there are still a few very good runs on there. But about 50% poor.

Na, he was saying it before the ECM and UKMO downgrade. Also when the gfs 18z was showing a boom run.