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  1. Thanks for that - the last 15 mins are amazing, and it's hard to believe how differently things were handled just a few decades ago. Men (dare I say it) were allowed to be men, then - physical strength, bravery, initiative, quick-acting no-nonsense practicality. A bit mad, perhaps...but I agree with marksp when he says he can't help thinking we've lost something along the way. I hope those qualities still lie within us (of either sex), however deeply buried by modern sensibilities. If not, when the internet completely crashes one day, along with all the things dependent on it (which by then will be literally everything), and people have to live once more by their own wits, knowledge, courage and physical capabilities, we really will be completely stuffed...
  2. A webcam view of Cairngorm from Loch Morlich on Sunday afternoon.
  3. Well, I'm nearly 67 years old, and I have NEVER seen and heard anything remotely like that in the UK (and possibly anywhere) before. Quite extraordinary - for the first SW London hit we had (as well as some pretty torrential rain) 35+ mins of intense activity from 11 pm or so, with continuous thunder and almost continuous lightning during the middle 15-20 mins. And then a shorter-lived action replay about an hour later - a mere 40 strikes a minute during the middle of that one.
  4. Freezing rain falling here in Wandsworth (inner SW London), though showing as snow on radar - temp still @-1C. In answer to someone above mentioning snow falling but not showing on the radar, it can take surprisingly long for very small snowflakes to fall from radar height to ground level - for the same reason the radar often shows snowfall overhead, but nothing's happening on the ground.
  5. The Queen said, "The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday – but never jam to-day." Once again the cold eastern air's promised arrival has been pushed back to an eternal "tomorrow"
  6. I can confirm the Heathrow gust subjectively. I'm 10 or 11 miles almost due east of Heathrow, and just before 4 am yesterday the wind suddenly strengthened dramatically for a few minutes, with a huge amount of noise from the trees and the smell of mashed leaves - loads of them on the ground when I was up later, plus twigs and a few small branches. The noise and smell reminded me of the great Oct 1987 storm (though nothing like as strong and shorter-lived), when I was also up and about in the small hours. As in 1987 there was no accompanying rain at all, so presumably not a squall line or anything - quite surreal, actually. But to put it in perspective, in '87 London recorded gusts well over 90 mph.
  7. Unbelievably the absurd Nathan Rao is now getting the Mirror to pay him for his b*ll*cks: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/theres-every-chance-white-christmas-9468502 Note the first sentence, apparently written by a computer: "Britain is set for snow in the run-up to Christmas as a bitter blast sweeps in from the North Police." EH???? The 'bitter blast' will consist of night time mins of, um, 0 to -2C. Wow, that'll threaten some December records...or would do in Lisbon. Aha...rant on ** [**in case you didn't spot it, an anagram of you-know-who!]
  8. Nice Thames streamer at the moment, pumping a long string of heavy showers in from the estuary - if only this were mid-Jan instead of mid-Oct!
  9. V intereresting report, Mike, thanks, and most of the translation is good...but I strongly suspect that L'Independant de Perpignan is a newspaper!
  10. Yes, here in the foothills of the Jura (at about 500m, the other side of Geneva from the Alps) we had much more settling snow than had been expected by the authorities. Most - but not all - forecasts, including the official Meteo Swiss site, suggested that below 700m Saturday morning's snow would be transient, and turn quickly to heavy sleet/rain around 7 am, dying out by 10 - then the temp would dip below freezing again after 4 pm with a bit more light snow. In the event significant snowfall and temps near 0c continued till midday, by which time we had at least 20 cm (8") lying. Temps then rose well above freezing, with sleet/wet snow showers of varying intensity, and stayed above zero well into the night. Later on it finally cooled, and we had a further 5 cm in dribs and drabs during the early hours and into the morning. It just goes to show how even in places thoroughly used to snow, it is incredibly difficult to predict marginal snow events accurately. P.S. As the last of the flurries fade, the skies are set to clear as some seriously cold air moves in from the NE this evening. Earlier predictions of night-time temps below -20c in the next few days have now been moderated, but -11c to -13c still seems very possible tonight into Monday, and Wed into Thursday.
  11. Extraordinary example of an inversion as my plane descended towards Geneva a little after 9 this morning (local time). According to the video screen (which unfortunately up to that point had been showing Mr Bean, not the weather), at about **5200 ft the outside temp was +12C, despite a heavy frost visible everywhere between the Jura mountains and the lake. I thought at first it was an error, but as we dropped so did the temp - to 10C, then to 8C...and by the time we landed the reading was -2C (later confirmed on the ground). Perhaps this is a commoner set-up than I realise, but I had no idea it could be so warm at that height during winter-time. (**I presume this was above sea level - if so, Cointrin airport being about 1400 ft ASL, our actual height above the ground was probably more like 3500 ft.) The tops of the Jura, incidentally, had as little snow on them as I can remember on any of the eight or ten occasions I have flown in to my sister's for Christmas.
  12. If I were Irish I'd get so irritated by being continually lumped in with the UK by lazy Brits. If you mean the British Isles, do try and say so. And most of Ireland is even milder and less snowy than most of the UK at the same latitude.
  13. No, what that government website says is that he has to display the business name and contact details, which he does - an email address. The company's "address" - and even then it's not quite clear that it has to be postal - only has to be communicated to the buyer after an order is placed. I suppose you thought it was required to have his photo on his website, too, and were kindly providing that as well to help him comply with the law? Whatever the man's failings, like others I do not find giving details like this very amusing.
  14. Yes, 5 or 6 strikes with thunder in total here in Putney - four of them very close - accompanying sheets of torrential horizontal rain for a few minutes. Wish I'd had my camera to hand...by the time I had it sorted it was all over.
  15. I'm not writing it off - look at February 1991. Just pointing out that in 46-47 the situation was markedly different from this winter, in that very cold continental air was already lurking not far away in December, and had made it into the country for a week before Christmas (with a repeat in the SE early in the New Year) - see here and here - before it returned with a vengeance much later. So far this year there's been little deep cold air to be found even on the continent, and that's a worry. It's not impossible (as '91 shows) that some will get here eventually, but its absence anywhere makes it rather harder to achieve.
  16. 1947's severe cold lasted a lot longer than a couple of weeks - essentially the last nine or ten days of January right through till a week into March (later in Scotland), a total for most of six to seven weeks. The CET mean was below 1C for 45 consecutive days, all but five of those below 0C (and usually well below). Even Kew in outer London had air frosts every night of February but two, despite not seeing any sun at all for 20 days of the month, and never saw the temp rise above 40F (4.4C). The Met Office says snow fell somewhere in the UK on 55 days in a row, though I can't quite make that add up - I guess they include Scottish mountains. There is a widespread misconception that there had been no cold weather at all in 1946-7 before the bitter cold arrived in the later part of January. In fact - unlike this year - there had been a cold period for much of the country, including widespread snow, for over a week from 15th-22nd December. My parents were married in central London on 20th December 1946, and snow was lying on the ground - the CET mean shows 8 consecutive days <1C, three of them <0C. There was then another, albeit brief cold snap in early January, with two days' CET mean <0C, before the mild period of the 11th-18th. Things then progressively cooled until the real event arrived around the 22/23rd.
  17. Every year, most years, some years, or occasionally? I'm not denying it, but as an avid studier of historical weather I'd just like to know what you mean, and what your source is. Actually, if the Wikipedia article is to be trusted, it may not be so rare even now: "Snow can be found in gullies on the north side of Cross Fell as late as May in most years. In some years, lying snow has been known to persist until July and fresh snowfall in June (mid-summer in the Northern Hemisphere) is common."
  18. RB: "..it's the people who got the money who need to go down." What, like you, Russell? Where exactly is your money invested, I wonder? Ethically...or with the fund managers who give you the best return on your large lumps of capital? I don't remember, too, you being too worried about morality and the effects of wild and irresponsible behaviour on others when you were having a larf leaving obscene messages about a certain elderly man's grand-daughter on his answering machine, and broadcasting them. But I guess it's OK 'cos you said 'sorry', right? Well, sort of: The BBC Trust considered Brand's "unacceptable, so-called apology" broadcast on Radio 2 "exacerbated the intrusion into privacy and the offence". What a nice, thoughtful chap - ever so humble, too, always reflects on his past mistakes and admits it when he gets it wrong. As for his 'exceptional vocab', he's like a kid playing with a new toy...he uses strings of unnecessarily obtuse and long words to try and show off how clever he is. Genuinely bright people try to use plain, simple, honest words wherever possible, especially when talking in public. If someone like Boris Johnson used RB's vocabulary he'd quite rightly be treated with derision - but because RB is funky and 'wicked' his (all) youthful admirers think his verbal diarrhoea is a sign of insightful genius.
  19. No, the ranges in the key are continuous, from 0/10 to 10/10. The blue may be a slightly different shade, but it's still the blue - i.e. 'open water - 0/10 to 1/10', the lowest category with any ice present at all. It obviously couldn't be the grey, which is 'fast ice', and is seen in the fjords - you can't have a ring of 'fast ice' on the seaward side side of a variable density ice-pack, mate...'fast ice' is by definition fixed 'fast' to a landmass (or sometimes the bottom in shallow water)!
  20. I suspect if you lived through a 62/63 (as I did) you might change your mind! Both of those winters just went on and on and on...and however enjoyable it is for a while, eventually even hardened snow fans long to see the grass again.. Actually, I think we usually have it ideal in this country (apart from those many mild and snowless winters in the 90s and 00s): periods of cold and snow, but usually relatively short-lived. A week or ten days of real cold is enough at a time for me...though I don't mind an action replay later on, as long as there's been something warmer in between!
  21. For me, Thursday 7th February 1991. The maximum that day here was -4.4C after a min of -8.0C (under fully overcast skies), with virtually continuous snow. The 6th had seen a max at freezing point, and the snow began falling in the evening. It continued through the night, the following day (7th), and much of the following night, often heavily. By 7.30 pm on the 7th there was 6" fluffy and level (there was little wind); by 1.30 am on the 8th it was 10". Snow continued intermittently thereafter, and the temp didn't rise above freezing - and then barely - until the afternoon of the 10th (after an overnight min of -8.6C). And that, for inner London, less than 50 ft ASL, ain't 'alf bad!
  22. This website http://www.itameripo..._GB/jaatilanne/ gives you all the information on current, previous year, and average Baltic ice conditions; but the season has not yet started, so the simple maps are still showing the situation from last May.However, if you follow the link below to the 'Actual coloured ice chart' http://www.itameripo...ef/icemap_c.pdf , the map is fairly current, and shows that on 22nd Nov the first ice of the season was JUST beginning to form in some of the inlets on the far northern edge of The Gulf of Bothnia.
  23. Not really.....if you or your company can afford a helicopter flight in the first place, then it's likely you're the sort of person who's worth at least £5,000 a day at work in the place you're supposed to be instead of still on holiday - £5K a day is less than £1.5m a year (assuming a 6-day week & 3w hols a year), and plenty of top managers are paid more than that even before their profit-linked bonuses. It's not my world, thank God, nobody would miss me - I can't even afford the original holiday, let alone the cost of hurtling back from it!
  24. The first thing that might help, syed, is if you could pleeeeeaaase try and break up your sentences with some punctuation? Maybe I'm getting old, but while I can just about cope with your spelling, the long strings of unpunctuated words take me an annoying amount of time to decipher. As to your evidence/"evidents", if you are referring to the "climategate" leaked emails from the University of E Anglia Climate Research Unit - see here http://en.wikipedia....ail_controversy - then don't bother. Most of us here know all about them, have read many of them, and many - perhaps most - of us (including me) do not believe they show evidence of anything except - at worst - impatience, poor judgement and some arrogance. The one thing they certainly do not show is evidence of government interference with the process of weather forecasting, as you originally claimed. If you have other evidence, then please let us see it.
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