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59 minutes ago, Nick L said:
No it wasn't. It was average in London. By definition that is not below par!!
I’m not going to continue to argue with you. You said black, I say white, let’s call the whole thing off.
Or you say black, and I say white, summer 23 was a barrel of dung
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1 hour ago, alexisj9 said:
That is true, but it didn't feel cold, it felt like 22-24, and humidity that often comes with cloud in summer actually made it feel warm. I sweated while walking out in this weather, and only put a jacket on if the rain was heavy enough, which here even in July it often wasn't.
Had a lot of that stuff that you can feel landing on your skin, but literally wets nothing.weird rain, happened a lot last year too
Lol it didn’t feel cold as far as you are concerned.
Do you ever consider other people didn’t find it warm?
Just wondering is all.
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10 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:
Different area, here, but I was comfortable through out in a t shirt, didn't feel cold at all. Was a little wet at times. Cloud doesn't always equall cold, humidity made it feel warm here.
Cloud can equal humid, but humid can also feel cold if you are by the sea or under rainy conditions for longer periods.
13 minutes ago, danm said:The 9th to the 24th of August was perfectly respectable from a temperature POV. It was also largely dry, and with OK amounts of sunshine (Heathrow stats below):
Yeah, but it was a below par month for sunshine where I was.
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10 minutes ago, markyo said:
But the stats tell the facts
Stats do tell the fact, but it’s like in winter if the months come out milder average, some people will still feel cold.
Likewise a summertime daytime high of 22-24c with cloud and wind will feel much different to 22-24c with sunshine.
7 minutes ago, Catbrainz said:My area is pretty near that dark grey patch on the border so we probably had one of the cloudiest Augusts relative to averages this year and even then I didn't find August terrible. It was poor and below par yes with lots of pointless overcast but usable days but not a month that will be remembered for being a bogeyman around here like July this year. Looks like a standard bland and meh westerly August rather than a wet and cold troughfest like July 2023 or June 2012
Yes August was usable, and did improve, but there were quite a few poor days for outdoor activities.
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Just now, danm said:
July and early August was. Mid August onwards was fairly pleasant.
Yes, there was a slight improvement in mid August, but it was still only a handful of days. There were still cool and dull mornings in the last week, after the southeast were hit by thunderstorms on the 26th. Granted, I did enjoy that storm.
1 minute ago, Nick L said:This is the problem with people's perceptions and memories, they're all too often wrong!
Mine aren’t wrong.
It has nothing to do with people’s perceptions, if what they witness was actually true. I felt cold and it was mostly crappy cloudy weather.
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Even though I’m missing it, I’m glad others are making the most of what was in very short supply after late June.
45 minutes ago, Catbrainz said:Voted for cheated out of a decent July myself. I have enjoyed this spell of hot weather very much. Even if we had a 2018/2022 style summer I would still have welcomed this heat. Its only really towards the end of Sept I want things to start cooling down.
Yeah same.
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7 minutes ago, Nick L said:
But it wasn't. August comprised "most of the preceding 6-7 weeks". Let's look at the stats:
Average for most, not cool, and warmer in Scotland:
For the vast majority, August was average or slightly drier than average:
For the majority of the population, it had normal amounts of sunshine, although sympathies for those in Wales and the SW:
But cooler, wetter and duller for "most of the last 6-7 weeks"? It's simply an inaccurate statement.
No, it’s not inaccurate. It felt cool windy and was definitely cloudy. An awful period of high summer weather.
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42 minutes ago, SunSean said:
Finally got some days off now and it is currently full cloud so I am going to avoid looking at the Met Office forecast as it will no doubt say overcast all day and I'll just stick to the BBC's extremely over-optimistic forecast of sun all day
If it makes you feel better mate, today is the first day of sunshine and 28c I’m getting since Sunday.
Monday until yesterday was dull and humid, with also a cool feeling when the wind kicked in, and some thunderstorms thrown into the mix.
Thankfully we didn’t get caught up in the awful floods about 100 miles or further south and west of us.
It’s been really bad over this part of the world.
Back on the sun lounger now and ready to bake and swim
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8 hours ago, Cheshire Freeze said:
I genuinely can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Did you not see the constant whining on here in July.
I think the constant whining in July was way more justified. It was miserable for far longer this summer, compared to any hot spell.
My co worker is the same. He’s just a misery lol.
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2 minutes ago, Don said:
I'm feeling pretty crap in this current weather TBH and Sunday now looks to be going hotter, too, possibly breaking the all time September record!
I know you wanted a decent run of days of mid 20's temps (up to 30C) during summer rather than extreme temps and apart from June, that didn't happen. However, I disagree that we are likely to have frequent summers like 2021 or 2023 moving forward, with 2022 or 2018 more likely (which I didn't mind either, apart from the 40C days), interrupted by the occasional 2021 or 2023. What does concern me most moving forward is turbo charged plumes from Africa becoming more frequent and prolonged! That said, none of us really know how climate change will manifest itself moving forward!
Yes, and then there’s a december like 2010. That could very happen again at some point.
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1 minute ago, razorgrain said:
There's pretty strong agreement that the likes of 2018 and 2022 will become considerably more frequent as time moves on.
Hmm, not sure I agree. I would take a 2018 summer hands down, if we had a February like 2018, and a December like 2022(the cold frosty part).
But, with more evaporation caused by warming of the North Atlantic, surely the end result will be more cloudier and humid summers.
The only way to avoid the cloudy humid option is, a dominant easterly flow, but then we have the cold North Sea clag to continue with. Then we end up with a cool cloudy summer scenario.
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20 minutes ago, Don said:
I'm feeling the pain now with this humidity, which feels worse than at any point during summer 2022 (even when it hit 40C)! I'm convinced you heat lovers will not have to wait long at all before a summer 2022 repeat or hotter, think about how we narrowly missed a very hot summer this year with all that heat over Europe, which has now made it to our shores! Had this arrived a month or two ago, we would likely have topped 40C again, probably for a good few days, which concerns me moving forward!
And yes I will blame you when B*****d sets up shop for three months from December 8th!
I keep hearing this. The ‘if this happened in July or August, it would have been 40c’. The issue I have with this statement is, we don’t know for sure a 40c would have been achieved with absolute confidence. Second, it didn’t happen, and we ended up with a very drab period of weather in July and early August.
All I wanted was a decent run of days into the mid 20s and a few 30c scattered about. We don’t wish for 35c for period of heat, but a longer period of nice usable sunny warm weather.
I personally didn’t find summer 2022 too bad, outside of the 40c day, which even itself was a dry heat. The long hot sunny days of August were very clear and sunny, and it felt like a nice long summer for once. Something we don’t get enough of in this country.
Summer 23 was more of a return to the usual miserable and depressing summer weather we have come to know in the last 8 years or so. I think this is probably more of a symptom of climate change moving forward, and we won’t be having more summers like 2018 or 22, but more 2023 and 21s, which really does feel me with dread.
If we have bleak winters, to be followed by bleak summers, is it any wonder why people are so depressed in the U.K?
16 minutes ago, Premier Neige said:Yeah.....probably best not to!
There’s a queue in this forum who would love to do that in practice at my front door lol.
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2 minutes ago, Premier Neige said:
They should get a lump of coal in their Christmas stocking......or a snowball!
Or a lump of something else, but let’s not go there.
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6 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:
If your on about the heat health warning, that's what it is, and it's aimed at those who need to know only, so basically the elderly and those who work with them, hospitals and people who get ill when it gets hot because of their conditions, feel free to ignore other than keeping hydrated if you are not covered.
I understand the need for support to people who are of poor health. But, the heat alerts are another move towards the nanny state. It’s like we are raising a generation of people now, who can barely leave the house if they hear someone sneeze, or hear it’s going to be blowing a gale of 30 miles per hour, or the current subject matter.
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36 minutes ago, Don said:
I think that's most probably the case, yes.
Simply because I'm fed up with disappointment and I'm currently sitting here sweating like mad and a cold winter feels as far away as a distant galaxy!
That’s how us heat lovers felt like back in May, when it took forever to wait for something nice and warm.
But, I feel your pain about the wait for a decent dumping of snow.
I thought last winter provided quite a decent amount of cold chilly days, with more drier periods than the previous winter.
3 minutes ago, SqueakheartLW said:You know once someone has uttered that dreaded name they jinx the up coming winter
LOL
Ok, blame me.
Here comes the Bartlett man
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44 minutes ago, Premier Neige said:
Do not utter that name!
Mr Bartlett, bring me a dream!
Mr Bartlett rap - Mr Frosty is a biatch.
11 minutes ago, Don said:You would think there would be a number of days with temps around 21C!
Good old Mr B*****d you mean?!
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1 minute ago, BleakMidwinter said:
Ummm.... not everywhere. It was my first winter in Scotland, last year of primary school, and our weather project included taking the temperature outdoor at noon every schoolday for a fortnight, and it never went above freezing. The drifts were often above my knee-high socks, and not just in a few odd corners, I still remember the unfamiliar sensation of snow against the bare skin at the back of my knees! And I saw people skiing to the office, in pinstripe suits, trousers tucked into woolly socks, wearing woolly hats and a briefcase strapped to their backs... and suddenly the city was full of men wearing kilts because they are so much warmer than trousers...
It was my first Scottish winter and I was really pleased to discover that Edinburgh was exactly like books, all snowy...
...then I had to wait another three decades for another one like that, but the 78/79 one was apparently even snowier!January 80 was a cold month, and I think the Trevor Harley site states it was mostly clear and sunny. December was very mild in the south during the first half, and February 80 was very mild.
79/80 wasn’t anything out of the ordinary, but it probably felt very mild compared to the previous cold winter of 78/79.
If 79/80 was cold and snowy in Scotland, surely 81/82 was much better and 86/87?
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1 hour ago, Premier Neige said:
The northern blocking keeps appearing so that's a positive. Plenty of time for the other jigsaw pieces to fall into place. If it's still showing high pressure to our south in November/December then I'll worry. Well....not worry because there's nothing I can do about it so I'll just be peed off
Good old Mr Bartlett.
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Just now, cheese said:
Always makes me laugh hearing people of a certain age talking about UK winters like they were ever freezing cold.
There’s been a number of them, but very cold ones are few and far between. The same goes for hot summers. Few and far between.
1 minute ago, cheese said:Always makes me laugh hearing people of a certain age talking about UK winters like they were ever freezing cold.
Also, you are still too young to remember some very cold winters. You were born in 1987.
Its your fault lol.
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1 hour ago, stainesbloke said:
Doesn’t work like that though. It’s always been very difficult to get those kind of temperatures for more than a day or two. To get a significant freeze in the UK has always required a large number of things to fall into place. Even harder nowadays of course, but it shouldn’t be a ‘well you’ve had a heatwave so we should get a mega freeze with feet of snow’ kind of tit for tat. Worth remembering that we usually only get around 3 weeks of very warm/hot weather a year.
Yeah, even in the 70s and 80s, we had very mild winter months. Even before the late 1987 warming period.
79/80 had some ridiculously mild temps in the first half of December and very high minima.
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16 minutes ago, danm said:
I think we’re a long, long way off something like that.
Yeah, even 35c won’t be regular every single summer.
We seem to have 32-33c nailed on in most summers. 40c isn’t going to happen that frequently, or for every long periods for a long time.
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1 hour ago, danm said:
It is, but kind of expected in a warming world.
I haven't looked at the stats on this, but my sense is that our temperatures in winter tend to stay pretty close to average, whereas in Summer we get a lot more fluctuations. Heat spikes with temperatures well above average are a lot more common than deep freezes that have temperatures well below.
It also seems to take much more of a heavy lift to get deep cold advected into the UK, whereas it it not hard at all comparatively to get real heat advected towards us.
Yes, that’s true. But, the heat spikes rarely last very long, 3-5 days at a push. Then it’s several weeks of cool cloudy clag, or just average temps of around 21-22c with unremarkable high summer conditions.
I still feel the heatwave warnings are blown a little bit out of proportion. London Tonight are the worst culprits for it.
They will also go overboard with the cold weather if there’s a hint of light snow falling or a few colder days dropping to 0-3c.
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17 minutes ago, razorgrain said:
I'm sure I was outside without a jacket at some point this February. Fair enough I was digging all day and the breeze was freezing cold, but it was a mild day for the dead of winter.
So, you understand that your 10-13c is my 30c. You don’t feel the cold, and I don’t feel the heat until it becomes really hot.
14 minutes ago, *Stormforce~beka* said:Other coldies on here were insinuating that everyone who wanted warm wanted baking temps. Not you personally dear.
Yeah it’s a case of guilt tripping I feel. People should be allowed to enjoy the warm sunny weather, which is very rare for long periods in the U.K.
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18 minutes ago, cheese said:
Yeah. For most of the UK I’d say it’s always been easier to get way above average temperatures in summer than way below average temperatures in winter - unless you live in a frost hollow or something.
Yeah, that’s a fair point.
I still think though, with the warming climate, it doesn’t necessarily mean nice hot and sunny. It can be usually cloudy and humid by default. Something I’ve noticed more about our summers since around 2019ish.
Also we have a habit of getting a mix of cloudy and humid, but it can also feel cool and humid also. So, we are left with non summery type conditions, despite being warmer than average.
Autumn 2023
in Spring Weather Discussion
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The late August bank holiday was nothing special, but it does depend on location.
For me, apart from the storms on the Saturday 26th, which felt warm and humid, with the previous few days of hot sunshine early that week, the days following the storms felt kind of chilly.