cheeky_monkey

no has mentioned the fact the the ground would have retained suffuiceint heat through the warm june and hot july to have moderated daytime and particularly night time temperatures through august.. iknow this does happen in autumns with hot summers in terms of frosts or lack of them with the right synoptics when frost would normally occur....so it is possible that residual warming omiited from the ground could have prevented a cooler august than we got.

simply because no one else has pick it..im going 4 lonely old 13.4c

do u live in a greenhouse?

im surprised it only 10 days shorter....feels like 3 months shorter 2 me!

i remember getting soaked watching newcastle grab alate equaliser against spurs at white hart lane..ha ha..also tht day the might hammers turned ova man u 3-2 at old trafford!..bliss made up for getting drenched!

mmmmm...cheeese!!!

damn rite i dont eva recall the public being consulted on this change of status...like sayin shep was never a blue peter dog...thts anotha of my childhood realities shattered yet again!!!

if things pan out..my guess and general synopsis are looking pretty good..(famous last words)

in fact the allied bombing offensive never got into full swing until late 1943..early 1944..so tht dosnt explain the very cold winters of the early 1940s...in fact the winterof 41-42 was exceptionally cold across eastern europe and russia, the coldest in the last 250yrs!

im going 4 less settled and cooler august esp last week my guess 16.4c

at my loc in exeter this month as of close of play yesterday.... ave max 26.45c ave min 13.42c cet to date = 19.93c

is it me..but the daffs this year are much later than last...daffs in my garden were just comming into bud on jan 9 2005...still havnt reached that stage as yet 5 feb 2006...probaly down to the large number of air frosts experienced this winter as opposed to others...this is the latest they have made an appearence since the mid 1990s!

lets put it this way it took the allies three years of in depth planning and preperation to mount the dday landings. in summer of 1940 the germans did not have the resources the landing craft the naval back up the know how to make any serious attempt at invading it was a bluff to try and tempt britain into suing for peace....hilters ambitions lay in the east and the destruction of the soviet union..not the invasion of great britain.

im not old enough for 62-63 i was born in 1966. funny how ppl have different perceptions of winters....i personally dont rate 1987..it only delivered that very cold 10 day spell in mid january and not much else..nor do i rate the winters of 95/6 and 96/7..both really didnt deliver too much in terms of widespread snow. for me looking back we had an incredible run of winters from 77/78 through to 86/87..even by the standards of winters that went before, both in terms of snowfall and lengthy cold spells of weather. my personal favourite is 78/79..which was characterised by cold snowy weather followed by a short mild spells and thaw then refreeze and more snow again from dec to end of march.

the reason that the germans never invaded had nothing to do with the weather..they were simply unprepared to invade..they had expected and offered britain peace after the fall of France..even with control of the air it was highly unlikely the german armed forces could have made a serious assault on the british isles.

snowing heavly and blowing a gale in exeter..now

i dont remember ever seeing lying snow in november

to me the ssts at the moment are looking spot on for a -ve nao set up should it remain in place..above average around 30 - 50 deg N and below average 55 -70 deg N across the majority of the north atlantic.

28 October 2005 The prospect of a cold winter is currently the subject of significant speculation amid reports that forecasters expect the coldest winter since 1963. The Met Office’s winter forecast does not make these extreme claims but does suggest that the coming winter will be colder and drier than normal. However it is too early to be specific about the timing and severity of any individual cold spells. Most of the winters in the last ten years have been relatively mild. This perhaps gives the impression that this type of winter is now 'normal' meaning a colder winter would be more noticeable. The Met Office winter forecast is based on techniques which, for the broad weather patterns across Europe, are correct about two times in three.

just a quick note about the above very intersting read. as a prequel to nov 1703..sept and october were very cold not very warm as u suggest with cet of 10.6 and 7.8 respectively..maybe that had something to do with the intensity of the storm that november???

thats a bit of a contradiction..if the +ve anomly were to grow over the next week or so then it would be mighty difficult for sea ice to form around iceland even with sustained northerlies?

i remember it well..it was my friends wedding the day before. we drove back 2 essex on the friday and it threw it down..when we drove back on the sunday it was fantastic very warm shades on windows down all the way.

spot on..the north sea and baltic are very shallow seas in comparison to the major oceans and can warm and cool very rapidly dependant on weather conditions....for example in early march 1987 temps in the southern north sea were only 2c above freezing after a cold january.

here in sw england dry warm..not hot..relatively sunny..only 3 thunder days..overall a good summer IMO..very pleasent.

lets put it this way you would measure it in feet not inches..as i said b4 i lived in exeter in 1978 and i note that mr data has published an artical that exeter airport recored a level fall of 34cm on the 19th febuary 1978 which is over a foot in one day and this fell on top of existing deep snow cover.... obviously with a gale blowing drifts in my area alone must have been close to 10-15ft deep, i would also expect much heavier falls were recorded on the surrounding hills.