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That's why I shared as it's SO rare to see.

Snow SO rarely sticks on a main road in Crewe town areas. Took my new dog for a walk in it earlier, was licking the floor! haha WhatsApp Video 2023-12-02 at 23.20.35_32286848.mp4

Been with my folks all evening, knew it would be good fun to jump on the NW forum to catch up with what I've missed... Firstly....WTF as happened in Cumbria? Where did that come from. Second WTF...haha. WTF is happening in Crewe. Snow settling in the middle of town and it's currently pelting it down!!!

I'm sure some experts will confirm or not, but I'm sure the longer subzero uppers are above us -with minimal wind - the more they sink lower in the atmosphere, hence lower temperatures at the surface and lower Dew Points. So if we have a slow low with minimal wind and minimal solar heating then the temps should get lower and lower and increase snow potential?

If I was on Mastermind and the question was, "What occurrence normally scuppers an upcoming cold spell?", I would say the kinda 'shortwavy' charts this morning. I remember an easterly as few years ago looked long lasting and then one of the shortwaves that appeared small - and was forecast to drift east - blew up and brought southerlies and milder air a lot faster than predicted. It's not a doom and gloom post as actually buzzing for some season weather at least, but my bum is slightly squeaky at these pesky shortwaves appearing and if there is a smidge more energy given to them or they drift further north then we just be on the wrong side of the fun. We all know that to get the good dumping of the white stuff, things normally have to high risk...this looks like it could go down that route. Victor Meldrew aside, the model watching is very exciting and looking forward to some chilly weather - at least - for sure.

Cheers Nick. I always appreciate you always share where the 'differences' start and when. It really helps me learn, so thank you. For me, there is an 'air' of the models sniffing something (hate that phrase but kinda perfect for this) but not sure 'how' the cold air will move. Just look at the ECM run, any other year or model run the atlantic will just pile in...it just all gets flabby and then somehow weather starts to move in from the east. Fascinating to watch unfold.

I remember radar watching that night, I think Aaron was accompanying me too. Westerlys don't work here as too far south so the Welsh mountains take the brunt. It's Cheshire Gap or nothing really for South Cheshire haha.

For Crewe, the only proper chance for us to get a fall that is memorable is from a NW Streamer but in light winds so less mixing of the air and late at night. Then the ground is frosty and the lack of wind keeps the temps down below freezing. Everything else is normally a bust for us. Ideal scenario... Greenland blocking in Nov/Dec (short days) a few days of really cold temps and then a slight kink in the isobars to a NW, creating potent showers coming down the Cheshire gap slowly, falling on already frozen ground with minimal daytime melting due to low sun. So Santa...if you're listening...! haha

Thanks for this. Good to know, cheers for thinking of us part-timers!

Yeah, just seen it's started again. Looks like it stopped momentarily when we got back then haha. It was bouncing down.

Took my new rescue dog for his first long walk...before the showers hit... can confirm they were torrential and stopped as we got back. As you probably guessed we were drenched! haha. I bloody love being out in the rain though so he better get used to it.

Im no expert, but following the charts for over 20 years this year is definitely no normal lead up to winter. Southerly placed Jet Stream/Lows, even when the contrast of the autumnal temps which normally fire it up. I don't know all the other players involved in what we get in weather but just from general chart watching and following patterns of summer, this winter has potential to be different. Yes we could end up in a warmer side of the jet etc but also I'd rather than risk than see deep blues and purples to our north west on the charts.

I think that was the year where my friends in Edinburgh has snow on the ground for nearly a month as - unlike us - they stayed on the cold side of the jet. Let's this southern tracking jet is a keeper.

Cheers Aaron. I know I am a fair-Net Weather-er, well to be fair, if there is any interesting weather I pop on haha. I do honestly feel the 'way' the weather is this year is far from normal, so let's hope we roll a 6 this winter.

Hello you beautiful lot. Fairweather member back for 'winter'. Hope you have all had a good spring/summer. Bobbing in as the weather this year/summer has been weird chart wise. Lot of low pressure to our south etc and that's even playing out now. I feel that this 'unusual' pattern we seem to be in can only help our prospects this winter. The models won't let get of the signal for northern blocking the past few weeks, yes it gets pushed back, delayed but it always there. Normally it's deep purples to our north and that isn't the case. Not a prediction but I reckon this winter could be quite exciting.

@CreweCold Hello matey. I can't see much about it on the Crewe Community page (of the floods) is that the one you have seen the videos on?

Hello all. GUTTED to miss the storm in Crewe yesterday, was in Manchester all day so didn't get back till midnight. Mum sent me a video of their street being flooded. VID-20230612-WA0022.mp4

Cheers for that. That was my assumption too. I think we just need a shift south to keep us in the cold and keep the precipitation over us too. Weirdly the snow is dryer now than it was first thing this morning. Evaporative cooling must be lowering the temps.

Hi Chris. Any update on the 0c line? As Crewe - being in the south of the region - needs it to move south! haha. I'm guessing the next update will be after the 6z's

Snow starting to look a tad dryer, obviously still a wet mess but if intensity picks up could give a slushy covering.

Snowing quite heavy here but just not cold enough to stick, elevation is going to be the saving grace for people today.

Geez, we are in touching distance to something special. Fingers crossed a few tweaks are had to make it so. ...just started snowing lightly in Crewe!

I've popped to the MOD thread and the big talk is that potential low moving in latter of next week... I don't know about you but for me I only really 'love' love the snow in Nov/Dec/Early Jan. As you know that with even just lower temps you are guaranteed (nearly) that the snow will last in the shade - which is a lot due to the low sun heights - as a quick 'fall and melt' doesn't really do it for me. By March I am normally kinda done with it as whatever falls normally melts fast due to the sun's strength, so what excites me about this spell is the good chance of the low moving in. As I know we might be in the snow shadow to some extent but the excitement of a proper front of snow would be pretty cool and something to see...as it's been a while. Some days show some Cheshire Gap potential too. Definitely exciting synoptics.

Hi all. I know I am a fairweather poster (well coldweather...) but just catching up with the charts and for me it's the depth of cold coming from the north. As we had the potent heat last summer, would be pretty cool to see such cold uppers come from the north. I remember seeing one chart a week or so back forecast -18c uppers?!? WTF?!? haha. Anyways, will take up my perch on the Netweather part-time bench awaiting what shenanigans are to come from the sky.

Exactly this! So weird, obviously there must have been a random mild sector etc but either way, why just here? I know it could be wind direction but it was hardly gale force (I couldn't actually feel any) and the direction has been NW-erly a lot and not shot up so much? Any experts know? haha