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  1. Stuck under frontal cloud all day, but at least it has been dry, with a temp of 10C and a noticeable cooling SW breeze.

    I don't suppose there is much demand for cut flowers these days, just a few picked last week. The bulbs may be lifted later this year, but with the USA apparently being the biggest market for them, who knows?

    One from my once daily exercise :oldmellow:

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  2. 58 minutes ago, CatchMyDrift said:

    Home school for dogs. I kept all the wood from various beds we've had for kindling. Now they are the start of Fergus's agility course.

    He managed a full run of the jumps quite quickly, within a few minutes of them being built but using a ball in hand to coax him over.

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    Clyde on the other hand just refused completely.

    Spaniels are great fun, (imho anyway !). Love field cockers. 

    Is Mrs Catch's condition improving?

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  3. 2 hours ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Round about this time most years I start to notice caravans and campervans appearing on Highland roads, and have a quiet resigned 'here we go again' moment.

    This year I'm just plain astonished then very cross that anyone should be travelling around for the hell of it now. I can see there are pros and cons but we are now 2 weeks behind Italy so anyone reading this thinking of any unnecessary travel - the advice from the government and health service is quite simple - just don't.

    The day stayed grey today....

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  4. 20 minutes ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Round about this time most years I start to notice caravans and campervans appearing on Highland roads, and have a quiet resigned 'here we go again' moment.

    This year I'm just plain astonished then very cross that anyone should be travelling around for the hell of it now. I can see there are pros and cons but we are now 2 weeks behind Italy so anyone reading this thinking of any unnecessary travel - the advice from the government and health service is quite simple - just don't.

    The day stayed grey today....

    I agree, and maybe was I guilty as well last Thursday tripping up to the Glens. The roads were very quiet and at least 50% of the traffic was camper/motorhome vehicles.

    However, I did take a packed lunch that day and on home purchased from the very local shop, just milk and a loaf of organic brown bread (newly baked that morning) so I was told, and which the owner/manager was pressing me to buy.

     

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  5. 13 minutes ago, Sceptical said:

    Just a little FYI.

    The World Health Organisation are not convinced C19 is a seasonal virus.

    Yes,125 new cases registered in Malaysia

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    KUALA LUMPUR, March 16 — The Health Ministry has confirmed 125 new Covid-19 positive cases have been reported today, with 95 cases linked to...

     

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  6. 13 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

    You could get the private sector to undergo testing in the community to keep the contain strategy going as part of the fight against the virus .

    This means you don’t put more demands on the NHS in terms of tests . 

    But you can help the NHS by identifying where clusters might pop up , this gives them some warning and will help them in terms of resource management.

    This isn’t rocket science ! 

    My view is that the NHS should make available testing for more. In real terms its not a great drain on resources, especially when it might reduce pressure on beds and equipment by early intervention.

     

  7. 17 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

    The test to positive ratio is bound to look bad from now on because of the new testing arrangements .

    And the case fatality rate is going to get worse because of the reduction in tests .

    To truly understand what’s going on in the country you need a cCsample to offer to undergo tests at different intervals during the virus outbreak.

     

    You don't need that to understand. It's more simple than that. 

     

     

     

  8. 19 minutes ago, Snipper said:

    Testing must involve a lot of people.  Might it be better for them to be helping with health care and not getting data for working out the statistics? 

    Testing, as proposed in Scotland, involves those identified through contact tracing or with specific symptoms. As far as I know there are no proposals for 'drive through testing',here, though that might be a good thing.

    Why would it be better for unsuspecting vectors to be helping with health care?

    Testing advises the data, assists planning and protects others.

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  9. 36 minutes ago, Gael_Force said:

    You cannot even do that successfully with a virus spread while asymptomatic and especially, one that can survive on surfaces for a considerable time. This was seen in action in Washington state: genetic tracing proves patient #1 led to the cascade being witnessed now.

    To be quite clear, the purpose of my OP on this particular topic was to report a policy change as it relates to Scotland, without speculation, posting fake news or expressing an uninformed opinion on the value of contact tracing or otherwise. I did not suggest it was a panacea.

    As it happens, however, I do think it is useful as a surveillance tool, identifying asymptomatic cases, the degree of community spread and ‘hotspots’. In addition, it can be helpful in identifying cases in which early supportive treatment is of benefit.

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  10. 1 minute ago, Spikecollie said:

    I'm still not on board. What protocols - 18h00-19h00 COVID-19 suspects only? This is madness and it will only encourage potential contaminees to visit their GP. Give me a proper protocol, line by line and I'll see if I like it but this vagueness has to stop.

    The details, I gather are published somewhere maybe on the Scottish gov. site - I haven't looked yet.

    From the interview, I gathered that it's not a case of turning up and demanding a test, but one might be made available after assessment and consultation from home.

  11. A new policy regarding testing for Covid19 has apparently been announced by the Scottish Govt. this morning. Testing will be carried out in GP surgeries for people presenting with symptoms. I can’t find this advice via a search on the internet, but a Scottish prof, Devi Sridhar, on BBC ‘Politics Scotland’ confirmed and welcomed this policy change but would like it extended to those self-isolating at home. In her opinion, testing and contact tracing were essential in order to break the chain of transmission

  12. 12 minutes ago, summer blizzard said:

    While people like MWB are getting very critical of the government its worth noting that the quarantine sample size (successful) so far is 1, Wuhan. South Korea took action closer to ours and much more localised.

    Since Italy imposed its semi-quarantine (i believe people stopped working in Wuhan but not Italy) less than a week ago we don't yet know if its successful and the duration we need to stamp hard for. Things like shutting schools are peicemeal that will barely affect the percentage of infection and while it may cause some people to panic beforehand, it's better than we put the foot on the throat of this virus in one go once we know how far we need to go and for how long. We might not be able to say that in Italy for even another week. 

    I would cull incoming flights now though, no reason to add to the problem.

    South Korea has a quite different approach to the UK.

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    South Korea is testing more people per capita than anywhere else - and could be a role model for others.

    Sorry,kw. posts crossed.

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  13. Initially, I was broadly supportive of the government policy regarding this virus, but over the days such confidence has been undermined. For example, why is 10 Downing Street so out on a limb in their strategy (exceptional) compared with the rest of the world and their experts, who no doubt have as admirable CVs as our CMO and CSA. The simple messaging for the masses and reliance on modelling brings to mind the possibility that it is not the scientists pulling the strings.

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  14. 24 minutes ago, emax said:

    God, that thread is the usual Twitter nonsense......some suggesting taking the government to court if a loved one dies, this is why I hate society lol.

    I mean I dont disbelieve his credentials, and he makes valid points, but one is to suggest the UK should do what others are doing and thereby "snuff" the epidemic out? Surely he realises that just isnt possible unless you keep a nation locked up for months and months? 

    I read eight, valid, questions in regard to UK policy.

    Apart from that, I have not read or heard any satisfactory explanation as to why the policy plan to increase tests to 10,000 per day, exponed last Monday, has suddenly shifted to only testing hospital admissions.

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  15. 18 minutes ago, Midlands Ice Age said:

     

     

    Ed..

     My perception is different to yours then.

    I just think of the Arctic as being a total icy wasteland from one side to the other....

    (As represented by the Mosaic project).

    Most/many people, (who are not interested in climate, weather, etc),  are,  after listening to the BBC, convinced that the planet is doomed. There was no explanation that it was at the extreme tip of the warmest part of Antarctica.  That is the whole point of the discussion.

    You clearly understand the significance, but the vast part  of the population do not?

    PS Please also see my 'added on' comments on the post above. 

    MIA 

    For the avoidance of doubt, and with reference to your railing against BBC reporting;

    This latest reading was taken at a monitoring station on Seymour Island, part of a chain of islands off the same peninsula, at the northernmost point of the continent.

    Although the temperature is a record high, Mr Schaefer emphasized that the reading was not part of a wider study and so, in itself, could not be used to predict a trend.

    "We can't use this to anticipate climatic changes in the future. It's a data point," he said. "It's simply a signal that something different is happening in that area."

     

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    The temperature was recorded on an island off the Antarctic continent's northern tip.

     

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  16. Ultimately, imo of course, the success or failure of the UK strategy will be judged not by numbers of those infected but on the ability to keep the recovery rate high and the mortality rate low.  That depends on the effectiveness of an under-resourced NHS under pressure.......

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  17. 3 minutes ago, Stabilo19 said:

    For what it's worth, my journey on the London underground (Victoria line southbound) this morning was as busy as ever. 2 people coughing in the carriage.

    Nothing to suggest coronavirus spreading widely in London yet IMO.

    While I fully support the current management of the coronavirus outbreak in the UK, maybe there should be greater transparency concerning the amount of community transmission that the testing reveals or is modelled..

  18. 34 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

    Probably the same here, and most places i reck, numbers are way higher. If, as the med experts say, there will be 80% or so that will have v mild symptoms, then those particular people wont have a scooby they have the virus; they'll just think they've got a cough, cold, touch of flu.

    You undoubteably know more than I do.

    Whatever, it seems like the virus will pervade and without a vaccine the best advice is to handwash, use gels as appproriate and social distance.

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  19. 42 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

    The UK government aswell as all other European countries including here in France need to spell out the message clearly now and tell the public in no uncertain terms you need to act now and everyone must use precautions .

    Otherwise a lot more people are going to die needlessly . Governments need to stop this narrative that their health systems are so marvelous that they can cope whatever.

    This is now giving people a false sense of security . Time to be straight with people .

    Well yes, the NHS is apparently pulling out all stops now in view of the global crisis.  

    Why were ill patients left lying in corridors previously due to insufficient staffing, bed availability and inadequate social care?

     

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