Nigel Langton

Agreed. I went on camping for a few weekends down south, followed by a long 2 weeks in se England. Out of 24 days it only rained on 1. Admittedly I used the charts and the forum and picked my locations. But August was a much better month for some in 2012. Summers frequently have a rainy spell during june in the uk. Its called the European monsoon. It usually lasts 2 weeks but sometimes arrives and never leaves. The last few summers a prime example. But lots of rain in June does not necessarily mean a poor summer.

Avfc, i would say the chance of snow mon/Tuesday are low. But going by this winter and spring anything can happen, so who knows. Its hard to believe we are still talking about it this late in the season. Amazing period.

Snow in London is not rare, but snow in central London is. With between 8-12 million people it's a very large city and has a significant urban heat island. So when it's snowing around London and let's face it most snow fall s in the uk are marginal. The temps in central London are several degrees higher. This means wet snow or sleet at best even in January or February. So April snow is rare in central London.

Is that picture take RECENTLY? Apparently there many be snow showers in the se today and these may become widespread Thursday Friday. I know it's not going to settle but it would still be nice to see some more snow. What do you guys think of our chances?

Perhaps it was said a little sarcastically. After all we do seem to go into drought very quickly these days. Onto the models, and there are hint in Fi that after a less cold unsettled period, High pressure could move up from the azores. Let's hope it's a pattern that verifys and inline with how our weather has evolved in recent years, it sticks with us for several months. Cold snowy winters and warm sunny summers, with so amazing thunderstorms - yes please.

It is good but only when used to spot trends and it is consistently showing the same solution.

Light snow in se brum. Any snow which thawed yesterday has been replaced and more added. Not Hugh amounts here, 2 inch, but to be honest that's enough for me and my little boys to go sledging. They are 2 and 4. I'm sure the snow bug has already got them, they must pick up on my excitement and the fact that all planned activities are cancelled to play in the snow. The excitement on there faces makes the snow even better.

Birmingham council are awful. I live in brum work in Coventry and my sister lives and Warwick. If we have snow or ice the roads in brum are awful. 20/30 mph on the a45 main road as soon as i leave Birmingham the roads are totally clear. This has happened lots this winter. Putting lives at risk. With high traffic volumes you would expect the roads to be better.

Thankyou ecm. Yes i agree, it's a long way off. As a casual observer who spends most of his time reading the forum rather than writing it does seem that in these block high pressure situations the models constantly chop and change even upto 24hrs. Still the unpredictability and changing makes it fun.

Dave what do you mean by poor or shocking output. Does this mean cold, mild, wet dry snow. What is poor and shocking to one weather enthusiast might be great to another.

About 5cm in SE brum and we will have mainly light snow all day maybe the odd heavier bust later in the morning. may get another 1-2 cm by the end of the day. Good snowfall for the last week in March and being in a large city with over 1 million people always makes it harder to stick and accumulate. Thats probably as big a factor as altitude. looking at the radar the front is rotating anti clockwise and shifting lightly south. The precipitation is moving east to west along the front so the heavier stuff in the se may make its way towards the midlands early afternoon. Snow falls on average 6 days the uk in march and I count 9 so far in the west midland but I know we missed out a few times with shower bands earlier in the week. So a good march if you like winter cold and snow.

Heavy snow in se Birmingham. But it did this most of last night with only an inch in the morning . how we get more in the next 36hrs and actually settling on the ground

Heavy snow all night and only 1inch to show for it. Still im very happy. Its mid march and more heavy snow tonight and im going to take one of my son's sledging this weekend that's a big bonus.

The front is advancing faster than predicted so whilst we may get more snow earlier now could this mean warmer temperatures advancing from the south and therefore a greater chance of rain later. Anyone on here got any thoughts on this? Heavy snow outside now.

Very suprised. Its just started snowing in se Birmingham. Expected it to start as rain and then turn to snow between midnight and 3am. Very good sign I think. Still expect a hit of rain/sleet after 12 pm tomorrow before turning back to heavy snow around 6pm. That's when I think the fun will begin for Birmingham and west midlands except areas with elevation. I'm going for 6inch to 1ft by Sunday evening. Anyway hopefully a day off work tomorrow as schools close. Fingers crossed. I'm hoping that as it's night air temps will remain cool for snow all night. It has to help. The sun must influence air temps at this time of year even if it's cloudy. Just a thought.

The metogram for Birmingham shows snow starting midnight and lasting till Sunday apart from some sleet during Friday. Link below http://www.yr.no/pla...m/meteogram.png Coventry simular www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Coventry/meteogram.png Notts http://www.yr.no/pla...m/meteogram.png Warwick a little more rain/sleet but still mainly snow http://www.yr.no/pla...ur_by_hour.html Matt Hugo really rates the metogram or has done this winter. Still very marginal but hopefully we could be on verge of major snow. Click on a link and the search for your area. This is a good tool for people like me who struggle to read charts and just want to know of it will snow what time and how much. Enjoy.

The metogram for Birmingham shows snow starting midnight and lasting till Sunday apart from some sleet during Friday. Link below http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Birmingham/meteogram.png Coventry simular www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Coventry/meteogram.png Notts http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Nottingham/meteogram.png Warwick a little more rain/sleet but still mainly snow http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Warwick/hour_by_hour.html Matt Hugo really rates the metogram or has done this winter. Still very marginal but hopefully we could be on verge of major snow.

If the temp is 6c and the average for mid march is 10± then that's 4c or more below average. Depending on where you live as this will affect the average. That is significant and I've known it snow at 6c during heavy showers in march and April.

Yes i guess it takes a while to prepare weather forecasts between the met and the BBC. This must cause a delay and so this mornings forecast may be based on yesterday evenings models and not the latest 00z. I'm sure it will change later.

Yes avfc but most if not all models are pointing towards cool/cold and suggest snow MAY be possible all week. So I'm sure we ll get some sort of an easterly and some snow. I also think some where I the uk will get a lot of snow and this will be where cold air from the east meets warm moist air from the south west. This boundary does not have to be in the north. It could set up anywhere in the uk. Like the channel Islands last week. Fingers crossed it will be us.

If Fridays ecm chart is to be believed then next Friday /Saturday could end up being a bigger one than the snow event expected in the south west tonight. Long way off, but winters definatly not finished yet. Its been an interesting few months, not always getting what most off us want but at least the possibility has always been there or there abouts. Fingers crossed for next weekend. Of course there's still this week to get through.

I guess that depends on track of lows, with snow on leading edge. Which as we know can bring substantial amount snow in places

So after this winter and the performance of the ukmo and gfs, i know which model I'd believe. So i guess it's good news then.