M1JWR

daf's arent doing well around here, frost has nailed them big style

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i remember 1975 on the other hand,i think it was may when there was some snow, up here anyway,diddent last long, and a cracking summer followed

however occasionally they can run all the way through, was it 1984

and 2007 was an awful summer

please spare a thought for us poor g"ts that have to work outside, and parts of the body are frozen that you wouldent know could freeze, snow is a right pain as it hinders work and getting to work more than anything else

nothing beats dec 1981/ jan 1982 here

Did i read someone mention uncle bartlett on here somewhere for around 20th of jan and somebody else saying a northerly at around the same time,very conflicting, shows nobody really knows do they.

Ah yes, now i remember, there was this mild blip in the middle for about 2 days when it lashed down, melted the snow never seen the river as big before or since, your right, 3 weeks of freezer, mild blip then 2 weeks of freezer. i remember that i walked down the river, on the river that is, for over a mile, the ice was at least 6 inches thick, even thick ice where it flowed over faster parts, iceicles hanging down the scaurs, all the land like concrete, lived on a farm then had to milk cows, the tankers couldent get round for the milk, they supplied big plastic bags to put it in, cant remember how big they were, held about 500 litres each, had to push tractor into the sun for whatever little warmth it had so as we could start it, man it was cold !

For me two winter events that will stand out above all others Winter 1981/82 7 weeks of minus 20 degrees of frost at night, it was very mild upto around christmas then a snow storm, after that into the freezer, got down to around minus 27 some nights spent time living next to an aga cooker and a coal fire, no central heating then, that was at the height of a good sunspot cycle, maybe the boffins could explain that. Fast forward to 26th dec 1998, the boxing day storm, there has been some vicious wind events here over the years but this one is firmly in the number 1 slot, it makes todays wind event a breeze in comparison, i think it was called hurricane stephen, 100mph gusts around here, worse further north, looked out at one point and things flying around, a tin sheet flew across the yard and impaled itself in another roof, if youve seen the film twister you will get the idea, never want to witness the like again.

at the moment i see a similar general pattern to christmas 1998 the boxing day storm, that was a bomb !!! I never want to experience the like ever again

As long as the azores high pressure is around there will be little change it is king and has been for awhile, its as simple as that

Did sombody say the magic words bartlett/euro high would be nice, as its the best way to melt all that snow with the minimum disruption not a coldie i'm afraid, i work outdoors, for me snow is the worst, followed quickly by mr jack frost, i remember 1982, no central heating then, we were all clammed around a coal fire and an aga cooker, got down to -27, having said that i am no fan of shed loads of rain either. back to the models people.

Well i suppose you are right from a certain point of view But Then it melts and then its my god the floods

Yes mate i am, 73 de m1jwr

Better than mystic meg then, next one, spring is on the way, saw frogs on the moove today/tonight, thats usually a shure thing

Check the date of this post people, my money was allways on the horse

Yep, i left school in 1977, ive worked mostly outdoors or cold warehouses since, some mighty cold times, and night shift some of the time, even colder for example in 1981/82 i milked cows then, -20 sometimes thats one extreme The other, boxing day 1998, this years storms nowhere near that, it blew lots away, a roof here, some of it i never saw again, and a house near us had its gable end blown down but snow is the worst, gets in the way of everything. So 35 years next year

But you all dont have to work out in it do you ? Last week was typical it went a bit like this Large low pressure with storm force winds, rain, snow and the kitchen sink will affect northern parts and down south people say, i love extreme weather then as the week progresses after the north got its usual battering, it was Large low pressure with storm force winds, rain, snow and the kitchen sink will affect southern parts it was, oh sh*t, mass panic and somebody even suggested that the coasts should be evacuated bit different then isent it Yes i prefer the weather we had in november,and a nice high pressure sitting over france/germany bringing winds from the warm south would do me fine You would all change you minds if you had to work out in -14 frozen to the core like i had to do last year I find people liking extreme weather that can kill and also the risk of blowing our roof's off a bit extreme different when it could kill somebody they know and blow their roof off Call it bugger off if you like, i read the posts last week, some were getting hysterical

Solar cycle 21 peaked around 1980, it was a biggie, i had a cb radio then, and the skip as we called it was major to say the least propergation as its really called, now in cycle 24 is on the up, its been very good over the last few weeks, have ham radio now and its coming in from all over the place, multipul paths, and some reckon cycle 24 wont be up to much, i am not too sure Back to cycle 21, in 1981/82 we had a very cold winter, i remember minus 20+ at night for several weeks and that was at near enough the peak of a very big cycle, there can be only one explanation to that

Sorry to start a row people, but everybody is entitled to their opinion in my case i will give you an example Last december one evening as i am on back shift, the boss comes along from his nice warm office and says, offload 42 600kg bags of fertilizer off that trailer, not in the pretty cold warehouse,but outside yes i did have a fork lift and no there is no heater it was minus 14 and saying no is the wrong answer i can tell you it was pretty flaming cold, made harder by icy impacted snow The frost as long as its not too much is quite good as it kills a lot of the bugs but snow, no, not for me, sorry

You can all keep your frosts and snow, well, a bit of frost thats good, but snow, thats the worst, a real pain in the neck its ok for those that work in a nice warm office etc When you have to work out in the cold and snow its a different ball game I know the country is lacking some rain, but at least you are not freezing your crappers off So for all the people that work outside,for this time of year this weather is great, no complaints here Apart from some much needed rain from time to time, it can stay like this until next spring for me

As far as i am concerned, nature itself is a good indicator of the forthcoming season i know a guy with a horse, the key is the thickness of its coat, it wasent wrong last year This time last year it had a thick coat, and started to loose it last january after the cold spell This year its coat is nowhere as thick what does that tell you all

I am not totally convinced about the solar output and the weather, i am no weather expert but i am a ham radio operator and back in 1981 i was a cb radio operator, 1981 was around about the peak of solar cycle 21, it was a big one, and the skip as we called it was massive, you couldent hear your mate from down the street for american truckers. You all go on about low solar output and cold weather, why i mention 1981, it was the coldest winter i can ever remember, and yes, at near enough the peak of the biggest solar cycle i can remember the weather is gonna do what its gonna do

Had a look on windmap, spadeadam, 0nly 10 miles from me, and yes, its a bit windy, we get this all the time