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Manley CET (Eden)= 8.91

Of course the theory will not stand up. Then the Left will move on to something else. Perhaps they may even take up the cause of a REAL environmental issue such as overpopulation.

Ah,...the great global warming trend....How amusing it all seems now.

Manley (Eden) CET to the 30th is minus 0.7 C.

Manley (Eden) CET to the 29th is minus 0.9 C.

Manley (Eden) at minus 1.1 C to the 28th.

1740- 6.8 !!!!!!! Check out the winter that started that year also - the all time champion.

Manley CET to the 26th= minus 1.4 - Hadley =minus 1C

You don't have to be a QC (although it just so happens...) but the highest "SF" said was..."may"... and.. "..doubt".. In other words he was sensibly not being dogmatic about his thoughts.

Today to Thursday are the danger days...........................

Thanks for that. I suppose it doesn't really matter 99% of the time but in the present exciting circumstances, we don't want a squabble over whether or not this was THE coldest December ever. I guess that is why this site uses Hadley even if it is not quite as accurate (in Manley terms) as one would want. At least we have a consistent means of comparison.

I see that Phillip Eden has -1.3 . Can you explain to me why PE and Hadley seem to disagree ? I would have thought, perhaps simplistically, that a CET is a CET ....Obviously not ! Yep ! And unless something really sensationally warm happens on Wednesday and Thursday, we should have something colder than zero. I see that this morning's update (3.46am) seems to reduce the previously warmer figures for Wednesday-Thursday,....so we shall see.

Unless we have a significant warm spell during the last 6 days, CET for 2010 will be an incredible 8.88 to 8.94.

Whilst I fully agree that our media are prone to sensationalise and play the the lowest common denominator, THIS December has been truly sensational- a month we will all talk about for ever.

Well, as has been pointed out, I should not have posted that on this site and I apologise.