R.P. McMurphy

Cold & Snowy for Midlands Northwards on this run. Pennine Areas, Northern/North Western England Especially in that convective flow. The trend is there... Lots of scatter towards the end, but firming up on agreement, the cold is on it's way.

If only Models were 100% correct way out into FI... All this talk of Look East.... Look NORTH. Lets hope the trend continues.

How is that Very Mild ? I think you may be reading them wrong. The current CET is 6.2C for January, the average is roughly 4.2C, so thats just 2C above average. NB - The data is generally taken from the Midlands Area. There has been quite a split/stark difference also with North/South divide. 2C above normal is no where near very mild. Would you consider the North Pole at -50C and in 2014 it was -48C - Is that very mild?

Hi Ian, Thats quite a turnaround from a few days ago of less than 10% I believe it was ? What has changed ? A lot of members throwing around the term Shannon Entropy as of late. If you try and Google what this means, it offers very little of understanding ! I believe, and correct me if I am wrong anyone, what Ian F refers to an output the DECIDER model from the Met Office ? I found the following chart: So we can see what Ian is referring to re "Record Highest Entropy" - I am not sure if this is still the latest record or not. For those with slightly poorer vision, albeit it's difficult to read with 20/20 vision, the text on the image states: So basically, High Entropies = Several outcomes possible (In this case 50/50 Easterley VS Atlantic) Low Entropies = Smaller number of outcomes **If this is wrong, someone can correct me !!** Hope this helps, as it sure helped me. Glenn

Could be worse, you could live in Cairo where it's almost impossible to get snow.... Oh, wait...

Gav, just to point out thats not above normal for the south - it's 0.2 - 2C mate, while the rest of the UK remains below.

Lots of deep cold building into Russia and Scandianvia. UK Remaining around 0C - 5C.

I think the low res has lost the plot a bit here... I think if it went further, you would see a greenland high followed by a Northerley. PV completely left Canada.

Well I said it earlier the 18z is going to provide a few surprises. Amazing differences already, they are really, really struggling.

Lets hope for a good 18Z - I don't think next week is set in stone yet, far from it. Trough dist is a good sign to start with /opfc/atm/mogreps-uk/prods/201412.file/prods_op_mogreps-uk_201412_21_ Not much change yet, Low slightly more stretched.

Depends what your looking for or how you are defining "potential"... If its a VB track, and warm winds are your thing, it's got great potential.

I It's not that odd - it's because of the lows in Iberia, pumping up the air. Oh and just to add, it will certainly feel cold with that feed. Just not cold enough for snow. It's the 850's that will be high.

Yup, as long as the pressure remains over Scandi, we always have a shot at getting cold weather...

Well thats interesting. Instead of it just going right through and destroying all hopes, it sinks completely south.... Hmmmm

Great chart... It's turning.

Well ECMWF is a little better, and elongates the low some more... Tomorrow is the day we smile again...

Yep, models quite poor today... But, looking at the Pertubations and the Ens, I don't think we are quite done here... I'm expecting something completely different tomorrow, if not tonight from the ECM and 18Z GFS.... Lets see....

Well you're 1/3 and a half the way there ! So does Winter start in March/April?

Yep, back tracking charts, Met Office latest update is a right kick in the betty swollocks. Can they be wrong? Who knows... Another phantom Easterley? Usually suck for our area anyways. Greeny high, N or NW winds = yummy.

Ohh thats nasty. I know how dangerous it can be up there. What's it like in Glossop/Peaks - any snow or just all dry? Still looking at that Longdendale trail - Thats the one that goes right round that resouviour isn't it ? Looks really nice & scenic, perfect for me and the Dog.

Thanks for that, that Longdendale trail looks really nice - might be a bit wintry this/next weekend you never know !! Has it snowed up there at all, all winter yet?

What is wrong with you Happydays/Cecil?

It's a good job it's just his feeling then !

Coming to Glossop maybe this weekend or next for a walk with the Dog.. Anywhere recommended?