bobbydog

They're not really streamers, more organised bands. True streamers set up over relatively warm water, generating a "stream" of convection.

I wasn't.... but I'll bet he was forecasting 'snowmageddon' for today....

To be fair, there has been less snow than forecast up to this point. That is probably due to the delay in the colder temps arriving, which has left ground temps slightly on the high side, making it more difficult to achieve laying snow initially. The MetO forecast is still going for heavy snow for the south east area. As you say, I think the heaviest falls associated with the warnings will come from showers and streamers. The problem will be how far inland the showers make it and the direction of any streamers 'if' they set up. Some will hit the jackpot whilst others will miss out (probably me lol)

I'm in Hills Farm Lane area, none settling here either, just steady light (sideways) snow

Hi Lottie, my mother in law lives in Rickwood Park in Capel, its only just started snowing here in Horsham.

I can finally confirm light snow falling here in Horsham...

The Horsham snow-shield is holding steady. This is torturously painful....

Anyway... don't give up hope just yet... I was looking at the fax charts for tomorrow and noticed this little fella... It's for around midday tomorrow. Here's the NOAA explanation- TROugh of Warm Air ALoft. Typically used during winter weather, it is a "tongue" of relatively warm/moist air aloft that wraps around to the north and west of a mature cyclone. ... During a winter storm, the heaviest snowfall amounts frequently occur along and north of the TROWAL axis. Game on still?...

So he got banned... not before time... I had his number a long time ago. He was a fairly knowledgeable 'snow-ramper' who never admitted when he was wrong... It grated on me how people would hang on his every word when he would say things like "expect upgrades" which rarely actually happened. There are far more knowledgeable and balanced members on this forum who give a much more realistic idea of what the weather is likely to do...

What did actually happen to him?

Forget the Apps and watch the RADAR!!!

Try living in Horsham. Expect nothing. Anything else is an upgrade...

I can't believe people are asking for radar recommendations... I've tried many and the best by far is Netweather... 5 minute updates, precipitation type and location pinpoint. You're already here and it's free...

Temp 6.3 and dp 5.1 here but dropping like a stone...

I remember 2010 well, I remember offering to go and rescue her, I had a 4x4 volvo at the time. I have a proper 4x4 now, (land rover) which has barely seen snow since...

I can see the dreaded 'Horsham snow-shield' powering up tonight. I have my snow rescue team at the ready, in case we get the same amounts as the 2018 'BFTE'.... Here they are in action in 2018, in the deepest snowdrift I could find in my garden...

The lower the better for both generally but dp needs to be below zero at very least. Temps can be a degree or so higher than zero but that would be wet snow.

Hmmm... not all of us Aaron... The 2018 "BFTE" delivered about 0.5 cm to my location. It lasted less than 24 hours. The snow which hit the south a couple of weekends ago, delivered about 1cm which lasted about half an hour before it turned to rain. My youngest daughter who will be 9 in just over a month, has never built a snowman. (She cried after getting all dressed up to go out and then watched it melt before her eyes within minutes...) I really hope you, and everyone everywhere else, gets a decent chance at some significant snowfall. I just wouldn't mind seeing some myself for a change...

Any which give me less than 24 hours of lying snow, which i haven't seen here (Horsham, Sussex) since 2013....

He's just checking how to change his username to 'feb2021blizzard'....

At a week's range, I'll hold off on the "booms" for now. But.... I showed this chart to my Land Rover and a little bit of engine wee came out...

Those of us who have been here a while will know that we've been up more garden paths than Alan Titchmarsh... Just don't get too excited until you can't see your garden path for snow. It looks like that could be the case... if it doesn't happen, don't blame the models, blame the weather...

Think of the "butterfly effect". The models are computer algorithms which try to predict the state of the atmosphere at any given time. Small changes early on can lead to big changes later. They do use more or less the same data sources but this changes as the weather itself changes. Therefore, due to the fact they run at different times, they will have the new, updated data. Also, they have differing levels of accuracy depending on which part of the world they are set up for. It also depends on the amount of money spent on the supercomputer doing the job.... The ensembles are the operational runs with slight tweaks to allow for the potential minor changes of the weather patterns, which is why they can throw up so many different scenarios at longer range. Hope that helps Edit- Oh... whatever @Paul.... stealing my thunder....

Some cracking charts over the past few days really Ed, if people as you say, look at the bigger picture. A bit 'knife edge' for us in the south but I would take the risk for some potential big rewards....

To be fair, its not the models that fail to deliver, charts we don't like may be the ones that verify. More often than not, its the weather that fails to deliver. Its all here in this book-