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Well thanks for letting me know,instead of someone just deleting them without an explanation. After reading your reply,i checked a couple of the quotes and indeed whoever made the list is up to some shenanigans,but i did find the source of this quote and it is interesting to read. NOVEMBER, 1922. MONTHLY WEATHER REVIEW. page 589 ¯ THE CHANGING ARCTIC. By GEORGE NICOLAS, IFFT. [Under data of October 10, 1922, the American consul at Bergen, Norway, submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D.C ] The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth’s surface. In August, 1922, the Norwegian Departnient of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Adolf Hoel, lecturer on geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations. Dr. Hoel, who has just returned, reports the location of hitherto unknown coal deposits on the eastern shores of Advent Bay — deposits of vast extent and superior quality. This is regarded as of first importance, as so far most of the coal mined by the Norwegian companies on those islands has not been of the best quality. The oceanographic observations have, however, been even more interesting. Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north 80°29′ in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus. The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81° north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue for some time. Later a section was taken of the Gulf Stream off Bear Island and off the Isfjord, as well as a section of the cold current that comes down along the west coast of Spitzbergen off the south cape. In connection with Dr Hoel’s report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigtsen, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted wanner conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1865 to 1917. Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared. The change in temperature, says Captain Ingebrigtsen, has also brought about great change in the flora and fauna of the Arctic. This summer he sought for white fish in Spitzbergen waters. Formerly great shoals of them were found there. This year he saw none , although he visited all the old fishing grounds. There were few seal in Spitzbergen water this year, the catch being far under the average. This, however, did not surprise the captain. He pointed out that formerly the waters aout Spitzbergen held an even summer temperature of about 3° Celsius; this year recorded temperatures up to 15°, and last winter the ocean did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen.

Can anyone tell me why my post and link has been removed from this thread?That's twice now. It has useful info about past ice levels. http://www.lowerwolfjaw.com/agw/quotes.htm

What do people make of this article? http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/arctic-sea-ice/ I don't know who is is though.

Haha,i know,i was joking because at first i didn't see her.I hope we get half that snowfall this Winter.

Blimey,it must of been cold.That woman has grown a beard to try and keep warm.

Can anyone hazard a guess about when the El nino will fade away this year (if at all). Historically what type of weather patterns follows a severe El nino? Will we see a decent summer followed by a decent winter etc,or is this just how our Winters will be in the Northern hemisphere for the foreseeable future?

Thank you all for bothering to reply,Here's hoping everyone's lucky enough to see a few flakes this Christmas. Merry Christmas.

Ok,sadly,it looks like it's not going to snow anytime soon,where can i find snow that is lying in Britain right now?My nieces and nephews have not seen any for nearly 2 years and i thought it would be a nice surprise just to have a snowy day out. I am in Sunderland,so i looked online and there is an indoor snow/ski place at Manchester,but it's going to cost hundreds for a couple of hours(there will be 11 of us) Please can anyone help,it doesn't have to be a resort,just somewhere with snow so they can sledge for a few hours.

It's 27.4 C here.