Spring 2021: Moans, Groans, Ramps and Banter.

[Freeze]

Made it to 16c here so I've found it warm when compared to most of this spring so far, even though it's been breezy. Blue skies all day here too.

[markyo]

2 minutes ago, Freeze said:

Made it to 16c here so I've found it warm when compared to most of this spring so far, even though it's been breezy. Blue skies all day here too.

What could you want to be honest, sounds perfect

[Freeze]

1 minute ago, markyo said:

What could you want to be honest, sounds perfect

I'd like it a bit warmer but still, I'm not complaining.

[stainesbloke]

Reached 29°C here in Prague today, with mainly clear skies. Feels very strange as it’s so sudden and it’s been so chilly all spring. But it’s also very nice Another hot day tomorrow, then it all goes rapidly downhill with plenty of rain to come and temperatures barely scraping average on most days.

[Nick L]

All I'll say is thank goodness we can socialise indoors again in a week!

[cheeky_monkey]

3 minutes ago, Nick L said:

All I'll say is thank goodness we can socialise indoors again in a week!

like people didn't anyway?

[Northwest NI]

6 hours ago, B87 said:

The WO forecast for London is now showing temps below average on 13 of the next 14 days, along with above average rainfall and below average sunshine. Absolutely disgraceful for May - a blustery 17c with rain is what I'd expect for the first week of October.

Not even a hint of even 20c, let alone any warmth.

You should try living in one of the less “favoured areas” - as BBC weather presenters irritatingly refer to everywhere outside the Southeast

[markyo]

36 minutes ago, Northwest NI said:

Absolutely disgraceful for May

You better put a complaint in then.........

[Northwest NI]

1 minute ago, markyo said:

You better put a complaint in then.........

That’s not my quote. Somethings muddled up

[weatherguru14]

I only usually come on this site around late spring and early summer  each year. And I often get into a debate over the Jet stream..

I was watching the week ahead forecast for the met office  on youtube. And the weather forecaster  mentioned how the Jet is in an usual place.. yet  year after year. The jet is usually in this position. (apart from now and then) but that is rarer.. But the norm is where it currently is. My annoyance is when the obvious is ignored to suit what ever idea the person/s objective is. 

Every upcoming summer theres always a case of Jet stream being in the wrong place for what summers lovers would like. All anyone can hope for is that it moves further north and stays in that position long enough to give us a decent summer. 

But over all the realism is. the jet stream  is in the usual place for the UK.. Just my two penneth worth 

[Northernlights]

40 minutes ago, weatherguru14 said:

I only usually come on this site around late spring and early summer  each year. And I often get into a debate over the Jet stream..

I was watching the week ahead forecast for the met office  on youtube. And the weather forecaster  mentioned how the Jet is in an usual place.. yet  year after year. The jet is usually in this position. (apart from now and then) but that is rarer.. But the norm is where it currently is. My annoyance is when the obvious is ignored to suit what ever idea the person/s objective is. 

Every upcoming summer theres always a case of Jet stream being in the wrong place for what summers lovers would like. All anyone can hope for is that it moves further north and stays in that position long enough to give us a decent summer. 

But over all the realism is. the jet stream  is in the usual place for the UK.. Just my two penneth worth 

Totally agree and with it being more in a straight line suppoorts my theorey that the weather patterns have reset to  more traditional seasons with the huge reduction reduction in ground and air mechanical  pollution.

[Daniel*]

57 minutes ago, weatherguru14 said:

I only usually come on this site around late spring and early summer  each year. And I often get into a debate over the Jet stream..

I was watching the week ahead forecast for the met office  on youtube. And the weather forecaster  mentioned how the Jet is in an usual place.. yet  year after year. The jet is usually in this position. (apart from now and then) but that is rarer.. But the norm is where it currently is. My annoyance is when the obvious is ignored to suit what ever idea the person/s objective is. 

Every upcoming summer theres always a case of Jet stream being in the wrong place for what summers lovers would like. All anyone can hope for is that it moves further north and stays in that position long enough to give us a decent summer. 

But over all the realism is. the jet stream  is in the usual place for the UK.. Just my two penneth worth 

Evidently not if May is driest month for some northern parts of country this unsettled weather due to changes in jet stream further south is not ordinary. Think I saw to 9th the U.K.  has seen 68% average May rainfall. 
 

April showers are a month late! 

Edited May 11, 2021 by Daniel*

[Northernlights]

2019 was just the same as this May.A real struggle to sow the neeps in saturated ground with some areas not completed till the first week in June. We just need the return of low humidity northerlies and easterlies to dry up the weather and get rid of the humid wet southerlies and westerlies.

Edited May 11, 2021 by Northernlights

[MP-R]

1 hour ago, weatherguru14 said:

I only usually come on this site around late spring and early summer  each year. And I often get into a debate over the Jet stream..

I was watching the week ahead forecast for the met office  on youtube. And the weather forecaster  mentioned how the Jet is in an usual place.. yet  year after year. The jet is usually in this position. (apart from now and then) but that is rarer.. But the norm is where it currently is. My annoyance is when the obvious is ignored to suit what ever idea the person/s objective is. 

Every upcoming summer theres always a case of Jet stream being in the wrong place for what summers lovers would like. All anyone can hope for is that it moves further north and stays in that position long enough to give us a decent summer. 

But over all the realism is. the jet stream  is in the usual place for the UK.. Just my two penneth worth 

Umm... the jet stream is not in its normal place... Maybe more normal for winter months, but not May. A GCSE geography student studying weather & climate could tell you that! 

[B87]

The normal place for the jet stream in the summer is north of the UK. Directly over or south of the UK is not normal at all.

[mb018538]

12 minutes ago, B87 said:

The normal place for the jet stream in the summer is north of the UK. Directly over or south of the UK is not normal at all.

Not normal at all. Anyone who thinks this current Jetstream position is in any way 'normal' needs to go back to meteorology school. 

[Fourty Point Three Degrees]

If the normal place for the jet stream is North then why is it always South during summer? Surely its acceptable enough to say that is its normal place during summer is South. 

 

Strange to think during 2018 the jet stream made its 20 yearly visit to its "Normal place" which is  North of UK...

Edited May 11, 2021 by 38.7°C

[MP-R]

15 minutes ago, 38.7°C said:

If the normal place for the jet stream is North then why is it always South during summer?

It’s not...

[Number 23]

"Leave the gloss work until late Spring" I said.

"We can leave the windows open all day and night" I said.

To say I'm looking forward to a few days of 20+ is quite the understatement. June, perhaps?

[mb018538]

39 minutes ago, 38.7°C said:

If the normal place for the jet stream is North then why is it always South during summer? Surely its acceptable enough to say that is its normal place during summer is South. 

 

Strange to think during 2018 the jet stream made its 20 yearly visit to its "Normal place" which is  North of UK...

It isn't. If the jet was constantly running south of the UK every summer, then we'd have loads of below average months/seasons. That just hasn't happened.

[weatherguru14]

1 hour ago, MP-R said:

Umm... the jet stream is not in its normal place... Maybe more normal for winter months, but not May. A GCSE geography student studying weather & climate could tell you that! 

Thanks I will just stick to what happens in reality. I watched a weather forecast from the 1960s a while back. And even then a weather forecaster was blaming the Jet stream for having such a poor summer that year. 

But hey what do I know? 

[weatherguru14]

1 minute ago, mb018538 said:

It isn't. If the jet was constantly running south of the UK every summer, then we'd have loads of below average months/seasons. That just hasn't happened.

But that's where averages come in... I can almost guarantee you . last  June came out higher than average. Because we had several days where it was  hotter than usual  (then again maybe not last June)  but I'm speaking in general how averages work. You can have a week of hot weather with unbroken sunshine then have  3 dire weeks. And  the stats will make it look good..

 

[MP-R]

10 minutes ago, weatherguru14 said:

Thanks I will just stick to what happens in reality. I watched a weather forecast from the 1960s a while back. And even then a weather forecaster was blaming the Jet stream for having such a poor summer that year. 

But hey what do I know? 

There we are then - you’ve confirmed my point. When the jet stream ploughs through the country or even a bit to the south, we get a poor summer. When it skirts over the top of the UK we get an average summer. When it’s well north of the UK we get a good’un like 2018.

No need to hide in your own reality...

[Britneyfan]

Reached 17 again here, it’s been warmer here this month than last month thank goodness, this is the 4th day I’ve hit 17 or above, and the coolest day was 13 and highest was 21 so overall not bad pretty average 

[knocker]

52 minutes ago, weatherguru14 said:

But that's where averages come in... I can almost guarantee you . last  June came out higher than average. Because we had several days where it was  hotter than usual  (then again maybe not last June)  but I'm speaking in general how averages work. You can have a week of hot weather with unbroken sunshine then have  3 dire weeks. And  the stats will make it look good..

 arouns

As a general rule of thumb, as this week, it acts as dividing line, baroclinic zone, between the Pm and Tm airmasses. This week the jet is exiting the eastern seaboard around about the Carolinas with colder air being 'topped' up around the Greenland block. Not a normal circumstance for mid May imho.

Edited May 11, 2021 by knocker