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  • Location: Birmingham, West Midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Heat, sun and thunderstorms in summer. Cold sunny days and snow in winter
  • Location: Birmingham, West Midlands
4 hours ago, B87 said:

18c with light winds is definitely comfortable in a t shirt.

Unless it is sunny (along with light winds at most) then I find 18 Celsius to be too cool to be wearing a t-shirt alone and I would feel more comfortable in a light jacket. Even 20 Celsius can feel somewhat cool on an overcast or breezy day. Those temps do sound warm at the moment though. Goes to show how poor our Spring has been since early April, in terms of temps.

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  • Location: Hounslow, London
  • Weather Preferences: Csa/Csb
  • Location: Hounslow, London
28 minutes ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:

Unless it is sunny (along with light winds at most) then I find 18 Celsius to be too cool to be wearing a t-shirt alone and I would feel more comfortable in a light jacket. Even 20 Celsius can feel somewhat cool on an overcast or breezy day. Those temps do sound warm at the moment though. Goes to show how poor our Spring has been since early April, in terms of temps.

Yes. Usually we start getting 20c days fairly regularly from the 2nd half of May onwards (typically 8-10 days in May). This year I wonder if we will record any days above 20c in May!

The year so far at Heathrow vs 91-20 mean temps.

Jan: -1.4c

Feb: +0.2c

Mar: +0.1c

Apr: -2.5c

May: -2.9c for the first 5 days

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  • Location: East Devon
  • Location: East Devon

I'm a bit late posting this but I went to Bristol on Sunday for a meet up. It was nice enough, had a light jumper but had to take it off sat in the sun and when walking. It was busy outside with many places full for outside lunch.

Trees were greening up:
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It felt like many days in April (at least the 2nd half) here, and made me think was April really that bad in terms of daytime weather?
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Cool yes but dry and sunny. It was good for being active outdoors here, not for sitting out in a t-shirt in the evening but I don't expect that in April apart from maybe on a few days some years. Though I get it might be annoying to be kept waiting for Spring warmth and admittedly the west has done better, I may have a worse opinion if I lived in East Anglia or Kent.

For some perspective of how April has warmed, here's the average maxima compared to the 1961-90 average!
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The average minima was remarkable of course, and the present weather is poor for May. If this keeps up for too long I might join in the moaning. 

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  • Location: Edinburgh (previously Chelmsford and Birmingham)
  • Weather Preferences: Unseasonably cold weather (at all times of year), wind, and thunderstorms.
  • Location: Edinburgh (previously Chelmsford and Birmingham)

Snow showers here in Edinburgh. And I'm not talking about a pathetic five-minute period of sleet; I'm talking about a heavy half-hour shower of the fat-flaked January-type stuff.

I'm relatively young but this sets a new record for the latest I've witnessed falling snow in Britain. My previous record was the 30th April 2016 in Birmingham.

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield
8 hours ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:

I find 18 Celsius to be too cool to be wearing a t-shirt alone and I would feel more comfortable in a light jacket. Even 20 Celsius can feel somewhat cool on an overcast or breezy day

I think that's the reason many find weather so interesting, everybody can feel the same temps in such a different way, its fascinating i find. For myself those temps especially 20c would be at the top end of warm and bordering on hot, for yourself nothing like that. How there is such a divergence i still find amazing. 

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

I think we're getting close to cementing this year as "the year without a spring". It's a bit annoying we had that warm blip at the end of March in some ways.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
11 minutes ago, markyo said:

I think that's the reason many find weather so interesting, everybody can feel the same temps in such a different way, its fascinating i find. For myself those temps especially 20c would be at the top end of warm and bordering on hot, for yourself nothing like that. How there is such a divergence i still find amazing. 

One thing I've noticed, as I rapidly approach senescence, is that I cannae do anything when I'm cold, as my whole body seems to seize-up.

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield
9 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

One thing I've noticed, as I rapidly approach senescence, is that I cannae do anything when I'm cold, as my whole body seems to seize-up.

Not good! But that's it exactly, when i'm hot my arthritis is much worse, weird but  fascinating. Cold and i'm much more active.

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  • Location: Chelmsford, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: Anything interesting!
  • Location: Chelmsford, Essex

Arrrgh make it stop.

Heating on in May is a sure sign we're not enjoying a good Spring.

I do fear we could be sliding into June before we see anything which can be described as warm.

Really hope we get an Indian summer as compensation, as it's going to feel like a very short trot into autumn otherwise!!

 

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  • Location: bingley,west yorks. 100 asl
  • Location: bingley,west yorks. 100 asl

I for one have enjoyed this cold mainly dry April. Looking for warmth now but hard to see any over the next couple of weeks. I'm dreading if a high sets up to our west this summer.

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  • Location: East London
  • Location: East London
7 hours ago, Evening thunder said:

was April really that bad in terms of daytime weather?

Even here I don't think I could claim that the daytime weather was awful. There was a nagging cold wind though most days which made anything but cycling or running unpleasant without a couple of layers on.

And while April evenings aren't known for their warmth, the longer day-length particularly at the back of the month means that the outside is often tolerable until 9ish, while the mornings can still be quite chilly.

And of course if any year could have done with a warm anomaly in the evenings it's this one.

All just opinions of course, and different people find different weather pleasant. I think if we weren't hoping to spend more time socialising outside, I'd have considered this April decent and forgotten about it in a couple of years. Context is everything though, so I can't help but feel a little let down. 

 

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  • Location: Chester-le-street,Co.Durham
  • Location: Chester-le-street,Co.Durham

Not a chance that April was average to above here! Someone has been colouring in that chart, lots of blue skies and sunshine but a cold cold April with record amounts of icy nights. Day time temps were mostly cold too.

Already had snow in May and the ice continues.

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  • Location: East Devon
  • Location: East Devon
4 minutes ago, rwtwm said:

Even here I don't think I could claim that the daytime weather was awful. There was a nagging cold wind though most days which made anything but cycling or running unpleasant without a couple of layers on.

And while April evenings aren't known for their warmth, the longer day-length particularly at the back of the month means that the outside is often tolerable until 9ish, while the mornings can still be quite chilly.

And of course if any year could have done with a warm anomaly in the evenings it's this one.

All just opinions of course, and different people find different weather pleasant. I think if we weren't hoping to spend more time socialising outside, I'd have considered this April decent and forgotten about it in a couple of years. Context is everything though, so I can't help but feel a little let down. 

 

Yes, I'd expect London to get the most 'pleasant evening' temperatures, and the dominant airflows would have detracted from that more in your area than here this month, where we often get sea breezes/general onshore wind in warm spells anyway. 

Here we had quite a few 15C days even if it was frosty by dawn.

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  • Location: Thorley, west Isle of Wight
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish plumes & stormy winters. Facebook @ Lance's Lightning Shots
  • Location: Thorley, west Isle of Wight

Another morning looking at absolute crud on the models and feeling concerned for @Alderc 's sanity!

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Location: Manchester
13 hours ago, Man Without Beard said:

Well this is a truly horrific spring now. Reminds me of July 2012 when we got used to temperatures 5-10C degrees below normal day in day out. We really should be seeing 16-20C on a regular basis by now. That sounds like a heatwave at the moment. Looking ahead on the ECM, we look absolutely trapped. 

I wouldn't agree with the whole spring being horrific around these parts. April was very sunny here and most of the month was reasonably warm in the afternoons, although ridiculously cold at night.

The last 10 days or so though could definitely be put in the 'horrific' category though. I certainly can't remember a more disastrous start to May and no sign of any major improvements- truly depressing after what we've all been through over the past year.

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34 minutes ago, Lance M said:

Another morning looking at absolute crud on the models and feeling concerned for @Alderc 's sanity!

At least its slightly less cold crud......whats the saying about the thing you can't polish......

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  • Location: Birmingham, West Midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Heat, sun and thunderstorms in summer. Cold sunny days and snow in winter
  • Location: Birmingham, West Midlands
9 hours ago, Evening thunder said:

It felt like many days in April (at least the 2nd half) here, and made me think was April really that bad in terms of daytime weather?

 

For around half of the month, even top temps were slightly below average. For me personally, it didn't feel too bad but it was tedious after a little while. Part of the fun about spring is the progression in temperature (like with autumn but the other way round). There wasn't really much of that this April.

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  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia

Well yesterday was fairly pleasant until a strong cold front blew through in the afternoon bringing gusty winds, heavy rain and some lightning. The temperature dropped from 19C to 9C in about two hours. Fortunately there's a big warm-up coming next week (up to 28C) just in time for my birthday. Hopefully I'll get to have a few drinks outside! 

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  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
5 minutes ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:

For around half of the month, even top temps were slightly below average. For me personally, it didn't feel too bad but it was tedious after a little while. Part of the fun about spring is the progression in temperature (like with autumn but the other way round). There wasn't really much of that this April.

I find that spring tends to yo-yo between hot and cold a lot more than autumn, which more often than not seems to me like one long gradual slump towards winter.

The yo-yoing has been quite extreme this year though. 

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  • Location: Cambridge, UK
  • Weather Preferences: Summer > Spring > Winter > Autumn :-)
  • Location: Cambridge, UK
17 minutes ago, Alderc said:

At least its slightly less cold crud......whats the saying about the thing you can't polish......

Literally my feelings too. We're just swapping 11c and rain for 15c and rain. Rolled in glitter...

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
1 hour ago, Lance M said:

Another morning looking at absolute crud on the models and feeling concerned for @Alderc 's sanity!

I'm always concerned for @Alderc's sanity!

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  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine, convective precipitation, snow, thunderstorms, "episodic" months.
  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire

This spring has been cold for recent years, and April unusually cold by night, but at the same time I get a sense that when the majority on here say they want "spring", it's an idealised version that sees a marked cut-off point sometime in March followed by a slightly cooler version of summer with no frost or snow for the remainder of the season. 

Historically, even a warm spring has tended not to manage that.  I've seen 1982 mentioned as a season when a cold winter abruptly gave way to a warm, sunny spring, but even then, while it was generally that way, we had northerly outbreaks coinciding exactly with the Easter and early May Bank Holiday weekends, and sleet/snow showers were fairly widespread in the first week of May (though less so than in 1979).  I'm sure that if that had happened this year, the warmth elsewhere in the spring wouldn't have stopped a spate of moaning about the "awful", "horrible" start to May.  1990 - another warm sunny one - had a cold snap with sharp frosts in early April, and some wintry showers in the north around mid-April.  It's only really in recent years that we've managed to see out April and May without frost and snow, and then only in a minority of years.  Last year's sunshine fest didn't manage it, as there was a cold snap in the second week of May.

I guess that this spring my perceptions have been skewed a bit by celebrating being in Lincoln rather than Exeter and therefore being rather less sheltered from temperature variation, snow and thunderstorms than has been the case for quite a while.  Yesterday was my first thunder-day of the year, there has been hail on a few occasions previously, and snow on 11 April.  But having said that, I probably wouldn't be moaning too much if I was still in Exeter for as Evening thunder mentioned the weather there hasn't been too bad recently.

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  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and sun in winter; warm and bright otherwise; not a big storm fan
  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl

I can't see a properly settled spell in the near future, but at least it should start to feel warmer in the sunny intervals between all the beefy showers. I think it will feel more like spring, albeit probably more like early April than the middle of May.

If Mother Nature is her usual trolling self, there will be a sudden flip to warm, dry, "let's all sit out in the beer garden" weather on 17th May when we no longer have to.

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  • Location: Croydon, Surrey
  • Location: Croydon, Surrey

I concur with the other posts, it seems there's a lot of 'well it will be warmer this weekend for you in the SE', that might be true but Saturday looks a washout and now Sunday seems to be trending towards it being 18-20c but we've now got a risk for some heavy showers/thunder in the afternoon, which with the current level of restrictions makes planning and doing things difficult as we're not allowed to dash inside to avoid the rain, or if we sit out in it we get absolutely drenched! The trend for next week is seemingly similar with it being warmer, yes, but with some heavy showers appearing from mid-afternoon onwards for most of the week, oh and don't mention the 40mph gusts of wind that are seemingly in the forecast for Monday too! 

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