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Model output discussion 10/02/21


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  • Location: Wrexham,NE Wales - 89m
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and Sunny Summers/Cold Wintry Winters
  • Location: Wrexham,NE Wales - 89m

UKMO and ECM looking pretty similar at Day 5.

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Slight differences regarding the lows the ECM has it further West but keeps the two lows phased where as the UKMO separates them. 

Vis over Scandi the heights are slightly better on the UKMO but we are nit picking at this point. 

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  • Location: West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme cold & snow
  • Location: West Sussex

ECM showing a similar attempt to UKMO at heights over Scandi this run

UKMO 120hrs                                                         ECM 120hrs

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Not a million miles off a decent evolution ar +144hrs

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)

The UKMO and ECM at 144,...some interest.

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .

Trigger shortwave drama on the ECM.

It’s in the North Sea at day 6 , that needs to clear se or even better south at day 7 and allow some ridging to push sw against the upstream troughing .

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  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, snow, warm sunny days.
  • Location: Croydon. South London. 161 ft asl

At 168 it's ended up better than I thought after the 144 chart

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

Both the ECM and UKMO perhaps show signs of a more continental influence to our weather into week 2. So after a brief milder spell the temperatures will begin to fall away. As the next pulse of WAA heads north after day 6

UKMO

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ECM

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ECM has a south easterly by day 7, UKMO probably similar, all the while very cold air sits over Eastern Europe. It would require more shifts in the earlier timeframes or a lot of work later on to get that to our shores.

 

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .

Second hurdle , shortwave energy must cut se from the upstream troughing at day 8.

That area towards the sw needs to eject that energy se , not ne.

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  • Location: Woodchurch, Kent.
  • Weather Preferences: Storm, drizzle
  • Location: Woodchurch, Kent.

A little bit of hope creeping into the models. Models going earlier and earlier for the hope now. With the high being in a good position to collapse and allow the cold to sink down but still clutching at straws here but still there is time for the toys to stay in the pram with a good cold period. Cold begins to collapse at Scotland around the point where anything could happen but still a good chance of the run happening. 

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  • Location: West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme cold & snow
  • Location: West Sussex

'Interesting' as Steve Davis would say...

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
2 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

Second hurdle , shortwave energy must cut se from the upstream troughing at day 8.

That area towards the sw needs to eject that energy se , not ne.

I think it will at day 8 Nick,that block is perfectly placed if i am not wrong.

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .

Two high pressure lobes for the price of one at day 8 to the ne and east .

The upstream pattern at day 8 looks very good , that energy digging that far south . 

 

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)

The trough disrupts over the UK at day eight with colder air advecting SW from the NE,good run so far.

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  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: blizzard conditions. ice days
  • Location: uxbridge middlesex(- also Bampton oxfordshire

Meat on the bone ???! Certainly is .. and an almost crude gigantic omega block format!!..  and already at the surface feeling cold again!!!

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  • Location: Catchgate, Durham,705ft asl
  • Location: Catchgate, Durham,705ft asl

Really does look as though there is a wall there in the atlantic at day 6,and a sharp one at that.

Strat related?

 

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  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
  • Location: Eastbourne and Larnaca,Cyprus .
1 minute ago, Cloud 10 said:

Really does look as though there is a wall there in the atlantic at day 6,and a sharp one at that.

Strat related?

 

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That sharpness is key , the more sharp and as far south as possible is the bellwether moving forward . 

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  • Location: New Forest (Western)
  • Weather Preferences: Fascinated by extreme weather. Despise drizzle.
  • Location: New Forest (Western)

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Fascinating. It simultaneously sinks the high pressure and inflates it northward! 

Good demonstration of the fact that we only need one low to move in the right way to change the direction of travel from a spring-like high to a wintry one.

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