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Model output discussion 10/02/21


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  • Location: Darwen (Near Blackburn) 210m ASL
  • Location: Darwen (Near Blackburn) 210m ASL
25 minutes ago, sheikhy said:

If we can mantain a southerly or southeasterly ahead of mondays front then it should be all snow on monday for england at least!!!even 850s of 0 will be enough with cold surface air in place and drier continental winds!!!

I'm starting to wonder if the Front will get in at all, I mean it was first shown as tomorrow , then Fri , then Sat , this morning Sunday and now Monday ... With High pressure over us now and the Cold block in place it may just keep getting pushed back.

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  • Location: Leicester
  • Location: Leicester
2 minutes ago, BlackburnChris said:

I'm starting to wonder if the Front will get in at all, I mean it was first shown as tomorrow , then Fri , then Sat , this morning Sunday and now Monday ... With High pressure over us now and the Cold block in place it may just keep getting pushed back.

We got colder air pushing back in thursday into friday for a time as well from the continent!!!

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
52 minutes ago, SqueakheartLW said:

We really need a big shot of WWA from this point to get back to cold

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1 - Look at that deep cold pool we could end up with if things go as I have shown. Cold air follows yellow arrows until it gets to UK

2 - Warm air waiting down to the south pushes in the direction of the red arrow and forces the high back north again opening the gates to that deep cold which should have pushed into eastern Europe by the time this happens

I guess that is the hope for cold lovers. However, what meteorological parameter is going to cause those two things to occur?

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  • Location: Darwen (Near Blackburn) 210m ASL
  • Location: Darwen (Near Blackburn) 210m ASL
2 minutes ago, Garthvader said:

Seems to be picking up more on the radar from Scarborough heading padt Bradford this way could be a better evening

As The High Pressure builds North it is likely to kill off the precipitation ... by 9pm GFS has nothing left .. 

 

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  • Location: Woodchurch, Kent.
  • Weather Preferences: Storm, drizzle
  • Location: Woodchurch, Kent.
1 minute ago, johnholmes said:

I guess that is the hope for cold lovers. However, what meteorological parameter is going to cause those two things to occur?

I've looked through the whole of my atmoshperics book and found nothing, didn't expect to Netweather is the place where we expect 1% chances to come off. 

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  • Location: Leicester
  • Location: Leicester
2 minutes ago, BlackburnChris said:

As The High Pressure builds North it is likely to kill off the precipitation ... by 9pm GFS has nothing left .. 

 

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Which is why we got a severely cold night ahead!!!

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  • Location: Wigan,North west England 38m asl
  • Location: Wigan,North west England 38m asl
5 minutes ago, BlackburnChris said:

As The High Pressure builds North it is likely to kill off the precipitation ... by 9pm GFS has nothing left .. 

 

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Oh lovely.....thanks pal ??‍♂️

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  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
Just now, BlackburnChris said:

GFS above Freezing for your area .. I think it will be Colder  than that ...

 

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Seems that Mild air makes a landing in the Far South west for a vacation 

That's us out of the game 

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
11 minutes ago, johnholmes said:

I guess that is the hope for cold lovers. However, what meteorological parameter is going to cause those two things to occur?

The trough to be elongated neutrally tilted and the shortwave to not be there.

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  • Location: Darwen (Near Blackburn) 210m ASL
  • Location: Darwen (Near Blackburn) 210m ASL
Just now, Skullzrulerz said:

Seems that Mild air makes a landing in the Far South west for a vacation 

That's us out of the game 

used wrong chart mate sorry ...... your ok tonight ....spacer.png

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  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
1 minute ago, BlackburnChris said:

used wrong chart mate sorry ...... your ok tonight ....spacer.png

That's okay I was referring to Next week in regards to the cold air still being around 

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  • Location: Oxford
  • Location: Oxford

Charts struggling with any possible break down of this embedded cold,going

to be very interesting will the Atlantic come in with a roar or just fizzle out.

Northern blocking orientation and strength is going to give some headache to meteorologists

i am going for big surprises.

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  • Location: STEVENAGE, HERTS (100M ASL)
  • Location: STEVENAGE, HERTS (100M ASL)
15 minutes ago, sheikhy said:

By the way metoffice have a warning out for snow on saturday!!any models show snow on saturday?!

Warning is only for the far west and most models show a front trying to make it in. They are just covering themselves with a yellow warning as it’s unclear how far it will get..

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
14 minutes ago, Tim Bland said:

Warning is only for the far west and most models show a front trying to make it in. They are just covering themselves with a yellow warning as it’s unclear how far it will get..

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The Arpege flirts with my location, whilst the others say no. 

I thought the rollercoaster ride had finished yesterday.  Today however, perhaps not? ?‍♂️ Lets see what the ECM says......

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  • Location: Exeter, Devon, UK. alt 10m asl
  • Location: Exeter, Devon, UK. alt 10m asl
21 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

This can't be right? Look at those dewpoints for Saturday on GFS 12z

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SE feed, so as @nick sussex alluded to, looking at the values over France where the airmass will be coming from, then maybe?

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  • Location: Aberporth S W Wales
  • Location: Aberporth S W Wales
3 minutes ago, CentralSouthernSnow said:

 

then why do people use that model? Icon is a great model 

It was tounge in cheek as it sinks the high and its too far east.

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