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  • Location: Sible Hedingham, North Essex
  • Location: Sible Hedingham, North Essex
    Just now, Floatylight said:

    Surprised given the minus temps all day the thick snow on the paths  has melted so fast.

    Snow all day and no settling?

    Not even ice on the ground?

    Those wind chill temps are very low so I can't quite work it out.

    The wind chill temperature is not an actual temperature though.

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  • Location: Orpington Kent.
  • Location: Orpington Kent.
    1 minute ago, jamesgold said:

    Pain.

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    I know.. just not kicking in.  Appears to be losing its omph as what little convection fades away with the sun.. 

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  • Location: Live in central Gravesend work in NW Kent too now
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy November to March and Sunny and warm April to Early October
  • Location: Live in central Gravesend work in NW Kent too now

    Whats made all this convection stuck over such a small narrow area? After the ESE brought some melt and brightness just had heaviest snow/graupel shower of the day for 5mins roads partially recovered the perfect wind flow for here now but not.much about building in the estuary like when we had the ESE flow typical! 

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  • Location: Southend-On-Sea, South East Essex.
  • Location: Southend-On-Sea, South East Essex.
    1 minute ago, Floatylight said:

    Surprised given the minus temps all day the thick snow on the paths  has melted so fast.

    Snow all day and no settling?

    Not even ice on the ground?

    Those wind chill temps are very low so I can't quite work it out.

    The ground is still warm and wet from the mild spell leading up to this.

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  • Location: Woburn
  • Location: Woburn
    Just now, Floatylight said:

    Surprised given the minus temps all day the thick snow on the paths  has melted so fast.

    Snow all day and no settling?

    Not even ice on the ground?

    Those wind chill temps are very low so I can't quite work it out.

    Same here yesterday, heavy snow all day and yet no settling but a melt instead. 
     

    Theres always the next easterly 🤣

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  • Location: Brockham, near Dorking, Surrey. 75m ASL.
  • Location: Brockham, near Dorking, Surrey. 75m ASL.
    Just now, Floatylight said:

    Surprised given the minus temps all day the thick snow on the paths  has melted so fast.

    Snow all day and no settling?

    Not even ice on the ground?

    Those wind chill temps are very low so I can't quite work it out.

    Warm, wet ground just below the surface and possible ducts and drains beneath too.  Add on a little solar warming (even through cloud) and it goes fast.

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  • Location: Sible Hedingham, North Essex
  • Location: Sible Hedingham, North Essex
    1 minute ago, TSNWK said:

    I know.. just not kicking in.  Appears to be losing its omph as what little convection fades away with the sun.. 

    And predictably the opposite of what the METO were saying - unless it's meant to liven up later?

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  • Location: Live in central Gravesend work in NW Kent too now
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy November to March and Sunny and warm April to Early October
  • Location: Live in central Gravesend work in NW Kent too now

    Some pics from my 10min drive south of here- unbelievable difference in snow amounts 

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14m, 45.9ft)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14m, 45.9ft)

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    Convergence zone slightly further W

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  • Location: Bromley, SE London (60m ASL)
  • Location: Bromley, SE London (60m ASL)
    2 minutes ago, TSNWK said:

    I know.. just not kicking in.  Appears to be losing its omph as what little convection fades away with the sun.. 

    same thing happened yesterday evening and better set up so guess we just need patience. The FAX charts are onto it 💪🏼

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  • Location: Strood, Kent, 19 feet above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms,
  • Location: Strood, Kent, 19 feet above sea level
    13 minutes ago, Ian Docwra said:

    My point was that the BBC's output isn't consistent within itself (i.e. lining up the text summaries and the hourly breakdowns) and neither is the MO's today.  BTW, the BBC TV forecast this morning talked of streamers, too.

    That’s because the graphic/hourly break downs are 100% model data driven, i.e taking a snapshot of a single model run from a single model. 

    The text forecasts have human input & would have considered other variables besides a single run. 

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  • Location: NE London
  • Location: NE London
    2 minutes ago, Ian Docwra said:

    Again, the very mild and very wet lead up to this has led to much ground snow loss, when a cold, frosty precursor would not have.  Bear in mind that if all the snow that fell had accumulated (on frosty, dry ground) many more areas would have a significant depth.  That's exactly what happened here on 24 January, when snow from the west settled on a hard frost - not a flake was wasted!

    Yes this makes sense. Was just describing that it seems like it's more a case of that we are unlucky this time (due to what you've described), rather than this being particularly representative of what you might usually expect from a similar -12 easterly in early feb. 

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  • Location: Coggeshall, Nr Colchester, Essex
  • Location: Coggeshall, Nr Colchester, Essex
    2 minutes ago, Floatylight said:

    Surprised given the minus temps all day the thick snow on the paths  has melted so fast.

    Snow all day and no settling?

    Not even ice on the ground?

    Those wind chill temps are very low so I can't quite work it out.

    Temp here crept about freezing here for 4hrs maxed at 0.4. Strangely enough it was right after the heaviest shower of the day when the snow was just starting to fill in the gaps. Quite a lot melted from the pavements and roads but nowhere else really. The sun came out briefly as well. Back  down below freezing now.

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  • Location: Worthing, West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Anything unusual
  • Location: Worthing, West Sussex
    4 minutes ago, Jamie M said:

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    Convergence zone slightly further W

    Is that good or bad for us West Sussex coastal folks?

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  • Location: Woburn
  • Location: Woburn

    All the powder snow of yesterday has but disappeared. 

    It’s damn cold for sure but the constant heavy rains and water logged ground has won this round. 

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  • Location: Nr. Tunbridge Wells (150m/450ft asl)
  • Location: Nr. Tunbridge Wells (150m/450ft asl)
    5 minutes ago, Jamie M said:

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    Convergence zone slightly further W

    Oof, do not like that. I mean, it probably makes little difference, because you can see from the next one that it will gradually sink South and hopefully therefore cover the whole region along the way, but... I preferred the ones that had the convergence line right over my head...

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  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Snow and more Snow!
  • Location: Gillingham, Kent

    I wasn't going to watch the radar tonight but if that stream just touches south a little....

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  • Location: NE Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
  • Weather Preferences: snow, cold, ice, frost, thundersnow,
  • Location: NE Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
    16 minutes ago, Climate_Eyes said:

    Looking across the region, there seems to have been a patch of very low dew points approximately correlating to the dissipating precip south and west of the M25. For example, my temperature is around -0.8, but my DP is around -6. With such a low relative humidity, I guess this could have been inhibiting precipitation from reaching us, however it does look to increase soon to become more confined to the SW, which may help if any showers do encroach later on... by which time they will have died off, knowing our luck! 😉

    The Thorpe Park/Heathrow snow shield in force it seems........

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14m, 45.9ft)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14m, 45.9ft)
    Just now, wellington boot said:

    Oof, do not like that. I mean, it probably makes little difference, because you can see from the next one that it will gradually sink South and hopefully therefore cover the whole region along the way, but... I preferred the ones that had the convergence line right over my head...

    Same here. Much rather it over my head but it does follow the UKV output.

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    Moves further E by 4 pm

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  • Location: Orpington Kent.
  • Location: Orpington Kent.
    2 minutes ago, throwoff said:

    I wasn't going to watch the radar tonight but if that stream just touches south a little....

    Oh stop it.  I had just given up for today

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
    19 minutes ago, jamesgold said:

    Pain.

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    A more traditional stream now, wind ene.

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  • Location: West Barnes, London, 18m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Warm and sunny; chilly and sunny; thunderstorms; extreme
  • Location: West Barnes, London, 18m ASL
    1 minute ago, alexisj9 said:

    A more traditional stream now, wind ene.

    Nice... heading for me 

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  • Location: Nr. Tunbridge Wells (150m/450ft asl)
  • Location: Nr. Tunbridge Wells (150m/450ft asl)
    4 minutes ago, Jamie M said:

    Same here. Much rather it over my head but it does follow the UKV output.

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    Moves further E by 4 pm

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    Honestly that still looks very favourable. I do find those charts intriguing though - are they supposed to be a snapshot? Because if they're showing ppn total, then they're very strange and clearly unhelpful. Make much more sense as an impression of how the radar will look at that particular time.

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  • Location: Canterbury, Kent
  • Location: Canterbury, Kent
    15 minutes ago, Jamie M said:image.thumb.png.fb2582f2410b0939497e6c59392a9619.png

    Convergence zone slightly further W

    Isn’t that the 12pm one? Isn’t meant to sink south till 3-4 I believe when winds turn NE? Shoot me if wrong tho. 

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