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It's busy right now, so please ensure you only post about the model output in this thread. 
For local snow discussion and will it snow posts, please use the regional threads
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  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, cold!
  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
Just now, nick sussex said:

The size of the cold pool in most of the ensembles is incredible . Jaw dropping! 

One of the ensembles also has a 1070 Scandi high !

There was a run the other day with a 1070, well I was going to say North of the pole!! But I realise that’s nonsense, I mean on the other side, just.  1070 in Scandi is just ridiculous though, it can easily happen in Greenland because of the elevated surface.  

24 hours in model watching!!!!!!  Just last night we were ruminating on a warm up end of next week, didn’t look likely to happen, and then todays models with the 18z the icing on the British Isles.  

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
2 minutes ago, spayne said:

it’ll all end in tears, ramping up a chart 15 days away, will no one learn..!!!!

I don't think anyone expects this to actually come off, merely just amazing viewing at the moment.  

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
12 minutes ago, Cloud 10 said:

 

Someone pass the brandy.

Hold on mate,...i am sending out the cavalry 

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Great charts tonight and the gefs mean is further north with the Scandi high than the 12z...

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
1 minute ago, spayne said:

it’ll all end in tears, ramping up a chart 15 days away, will no one learn..!!!!

Well it’s a perfectly plausible pattern to emerge from the current set up and it’s being well advertised across model output. 

Anything else on top of this cold spell is a bonus! 

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  • Location: Catchgate, Durham,705ft asl
  • Location: Catchgate, Durham,705ft asl
2 minutes ago, ICE COLD said:

No one’s ramping it mate . It’s just unbelievable to see . Don’t see them runs too often

-16 to -17 uppers is incredible 

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Maybe time to update your avatar.

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  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast

Busy in SE thread but holy cow,if this verifies 1947 cet of minus 1.9c in real danger and its not in fl that cold starts its from today,insane

 

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
2 minutes ago, Battleground Snow said:

Mean diving again at day 9 and not even recovering to 0 and a big cold cluster.

 

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Although not an outlier, as expected the op is at the colder end of the ensembles.

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  • Location: London
  • Location: London

Enjoy these charts, frame them, drool over them, for us cold weather lovers, it really doesn’t get any better. Is it just me or does it feel that every new run seems to take these cold projections to the next level!

IF these charts come to fruition, this month will enter the history books with some of those great winters. A genuine WTF moment tonight. Just extraordinary.

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  • Location: 150m asl Hadfield, Glossop Peak District
  • Weather Preferences: All
  • Location: 150m asl Hadfield, Glossop Peak District

Just waiting for the knockout blow to land when someone reports that GFS was a mild outlier. 

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  • Location: Hertfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: SNOW AND FREEZING TEMPS
  • Location: Hertfordshire
3 minutes ago, Cloud 10 said:

 

Maybe time to update your avatar.

Lol I’ll change it when it hits

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
Just now, radiohead said:

I don't think the UK would have seen uppers that cold since 1991? Not 100% sure though.

 

Probably more January 1987 I would have thought?

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(134m asl)
5 minutes ago, Scott Ingham said:

Retrogression to Greenland discussed monday as well in regionals potentially tied to mjo phase 8?

Yes Scott then phase 8/1 for complete retrogression for a northerly afterwards,all roads lead to cold at the moment,lets see if w can get the second bite of the cherry from 192 the a third one later on,seems plausable but don't take my word for it lol

BTW,i hope that your mother is doing OK mate☺️

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  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, cold!
  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
Just now, Man Without Beard said:

EURO4 sees most of the UK white by Monday night. Not sure how worthwhile this model is these days, but will be interesting to check

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Looking at the EURO4 recently, it seems to do convection better than most of the other models, you can see it in the charts you posted, so I’d rate it.  

HARMONIE another one that does, here’s 18z take from that one:

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