Flood Watch

[chionomaniac]

And, as in the case of the Dee it is then covered by the EA

[matty40s]

1 minute ago, Cymro said:

Orange means flood alert and shows the river catchment areas of those under a flood alert. That’s why there’s a lack of  rivers appearing in NE Wales as there aren’t currently any flood alerts

...but some of those rivers and level gauges are showing risk of flooding conditions?.

[Cymro]

2 minutes ago, chionomaniac said:

Orange is flood alert in Wales and England. If the river passages from Wales to England then it is then covered by the EA in England

Are you sure re rivers covered by the ea? I am not aware of this and have seen flood alerts for the Dee, Severn and Wye on our Welsh site?? Where did you learn that? 

[chionomaniac]

1 minute ago, Cymro said:

Are you sure re rivers covered by the ea? I am not aware of this and have seen flood alerts for the Dee, Severn and Wye on our Welsh site?? Where did you learn that? 

See above

[Cymro]

Just now, chionomaniac said:

See above

But that doesn’t support what you said as it talks of the catchment in England and lists places only in England. 

[matty40s]

2 minutes ago, chionomaniac said:

And, as in the case of the Dee it is then covered by the EA

That's lovely  but to us non nationalistic people  the Dee starts in Snowdonia, falls through Llangollen, and then drops to Chester ending up in the Irish Sea.

[matty40s]

Hope this helps..

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[Cymro]

1 minute ago, matty40s said:

That's lovely  but to us non nationalistic people  the Dee starts in Snowdonia, falls through Llangollen, and then drops to Chester ending up in the Irish Sea.

I fail to understand your nationalistic comment, it’s just simply two different legal administrations with powers over different watercourses. 

 

Here’s the warning for Llangollen: 

Sorry now I realise they are in Welsh, that’s my default browser language

 

[chionomaniac]

It’s late and I have had a hard day at work today and hence may not have understood you both. Sorry if that is the case.

4 minutes ago, Cymro said:

But that doesn’t support what you said as it talks of the catchment in England and lists places only in England. 

 

4 minutes ago, matty40s said:

That's lovely  but to us non nationalistic people  the Dee starts in Snowdonia, falls through Llangollen, and then drops to Chester ending up in the Irish Sea.

I am sure the catchment area is irrelevant. It’s more important where the river flows

[Cymro]

Just now, chionomaniac said:

It’s late and I have had a hard day at work today and hence may not have understood you both. Sorry if that is the case.

 

I am sure the catchment area is irrelevant. It’s more important where the river flows

No need to apologise Thanks for updating this thread it’s really helpful

[matty40s]

2 minutes ago, chionomaniac said:

It’s late and I have had a hard day at work today and hence may not have understood you both. Sorry if that is the case.

 

I am sure the catchment area is irrelevant. It’s more important where the river flows

Youve had a hard day, sorry, so have I. But regardless a river flows from the top to the sea. The top is the catchment area.

My expertise is rivers and waterways. 

A dry gulch or canyon in Arizona can have a catastrophic to those caught in it flash flood from rain in a state 50 or 100 miles away. That is a catchment area.

Edited January 20, 2021 by matty40s

[Cymro]

Just now, matty40s said:

Youve had a hard day, sorry, so have I. But regardless a river flows from the top to the sea. The top is the catchment area.

 

Nos da

[chionomaniac]

1 minute ago, matty40s said:

Youve had a hard day, sorry, so have I. But regardless a river flows from the top to the sea. The top is the catchment area.

 

The catchment area is any tributary that flows into the river regardless of country. I am sure that the EA aren’t pedantic over whether it is Wales or England. They have a responsibility to the area they have to cover. And will also be looking at this

[matty40s]

I should bloomin well hope so as that's the next wave coming in.

 

[chionomaniac]

Just now, matty40s said:

I should bloomin well hope so as that's the next wave coming in.

 

I suspect the EA only mention England in their report solely because that is the area they are responsible for. No more no less. Perhaps you should contact them for clarification 

[chionomaniac]

10 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Youve had a hard day, sorry, so have I. But regardless a river flows from the top to the sea. The top is the catchment area.

My expertise is rivers and waterways. 

A dry gulch or canyon in Arizona can have a catastrophic to those caught in it flash flood from rain in a state 50 or 100 miles away. That is a catchment area.

Lol. I am aware of catchment areas, Matty. But thanks for the clarification 

[Cymro]

1 minute ago, chionomaniac said:

I suspect the EA only mention England in their report solely because that is the area they are responsible for. No more no less. Perhaps you should contact them for clarification 

You are correct Chionomaniac. It’s NRW who have responsibility in Wales and of course they collaborate with border catchment areas as well, it really isn’t difficult to understand! 

What does need to be emphasised again is the absolute and sheer negligence of the METO that there is no all-Wales amber warning at the moment! The Met repeatedly underplays extreme weather in Wales when it comes to warnings and this affects authorities' response and their ability to deal with any problems! We need a lot better!

[chionomaniac]

1 minute ago, Cymro said:

You are correct Chionomaniac. It’s NRW who have responsibility in Wales and of course they collaborate with border catchment areas as well, it really isn’t difficult to understand! 

What does need to be emphasised again is the absolute and sheer negligence of the METO that there is no all-Wales amber warning at the moment! The Met repeatedly underplays extreme weather in Wales when it comes to warnings and this affects authorities' response and their ability to deal with any problems! We need a lot better!

I agree. The met office warning system has left a lot to be desired. But that is another thread.

[chionomaniac]

River Ouse in York forecast levels

[ianmm94]

22 minutes ago, chionomaniac said:

River Ouse in York forecast levels

not looking great, really hope we stay away from the 5m mark

[Jo Farrow]

Natural Resources Wales now have 7 warnings and 51 flood alerts in place from 10 alerts Tuesday morning. The Environment Agency have 45 flood warnings and 171 alerts over England from  11 flood warnings and 112 flood alerts Tuesday morning and the wide flood alerts over southern Scotland remain.  As of 07:30am Weds

[Cymro]

Here’s the situation in Wales this morning, things have certainly got worse! 

As you can see almost all catchment areas in Wales have alerts and with river levels rising the warnings are increasing too! 

 

A lot of rain has fallen here since yesterday, 94mm here! 

 

[chionomaniac]

Latest radar shows the train of persistent moderate rain  hitting north wales before heading eastwards

Looking at that, perhaps north wales should be included in the amber warning?

Edited January 20, 2021 by chionomaniac

[matty40s]

The A555 Manchester Airport relief road has just been closed, flooded again.

 

[matty40s]