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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
27 minutes ago, lawrenk said:

I can give you a useful update from the MO long ranger for next week. Dry with some rain or snow, temperatures cold but also could be above average. Hope that’s helped clear things up.

Yep it clears things right up lol 

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  • Location: Woodchurch, Kent.
  • Weather Preferences: Storm, drizzle
  • Location: Woodchurch, Kent.
10 minutes ago, Paul Sherman said:

34 Years ago today at about this time the Max Temps seen on the 12th Jan 1987

-9.1C Warlingham

-8.9C Shoeburyness

-8.8C Bingley

-8.0C Norwich

-8.0C Luton

-8.0C Bristol

-8.0C Emley Moor

-7.8C Odiham

-7.7C Herstmonceux

-7.4C Farnborough

-7.3C Church Lawford

-7.2C Bedford

-7.2C Lyneham

-7.0C Marham

-7.0C Larkhill

-6.5C Cambridge

Now thats a notable cold spell from the East 

The charts from that day. 

 

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  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snowy Weather
  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.

Evening all,

MeteoGroup's, extended Outlook, with Darren "at least it will be mild" Bett, below.

Weather for the Week Ahead - BBC Weather

A very typically restrained Forecast from Darren.

Plenty of "whiteness", showing out to the East of us.

This takes us up to around the Date, that has been "flagged up" as when things get interesting.

Regards,

Tom. 

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  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snowy Weather
  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.
22 minutes ago, Paul Sherman said:

34 Years ago today at about this time the Max Temps seen on the 12th Jan 1987

-9.1C Warlingham

-8.9C Shoeburyness

-8.8C Bingley

-8.0C Norwich

-8.0C Luton

-8.0C Bristol

-8.0C Emley Moor

-7.8C Odiham

-7.7C Herstmonceux

-7.4C Farnborough

-7.3C Church Lawford

-7.2C Bedford

-7.2C Lyneham

-7.0C Marham

-7.0C Larkhill

-6.5C Cambridge

Now thats a notable cold spell from the East 

Hi Paul and Sheldon,

In my light hearted Sammy Snowman post this Morning, I made reference to an Arctic High, a very elusive beast.

In the build up to the January 1987 event, the Arctic High, became a major player.

A few archive charts below, of a few Days before the event started:

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Below, the first Day of Snow Showers arriving, in our Region:

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Regards,

Tom.  

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  • Location: Deeping St. James, Lincolnshire
  • Location: Deeping St. James, Lincolnshire

Hello, I would be grateful if somone could provide their view on snow chances for tomorrow / Thursday? I live 10 miles north of Peterborough and I have seen a couple of posts hinting that Peterborough could get some now? Met Office app showing cold rain for two days!

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  • Location: Woburn
  • Location: Woburn

TV forecast on BBC 1 news evening just now. 
 

Rain tomorrow, Rain Thursday for our region. 
No mention of sleet or snow except for Northern areas of the U.K. 
Lincolnshire northwards according to BBC 

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  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
11 minutes ago, simonhall6 said:

Have a certain 2 posters been suspended from the mad thread ?? They seem to of gone missing lol 

Yep I think so, it seems you can't have a personal opinion in there if it doesn't suggest -20 temps and raging blizzards 

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  • Location: Brentwood, Essex
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Brentwood, Essex
Just now, Frostbite1980 said:

Yep I think so, it seems you can't have a personal opinion in there if it doesn't suggest -20 temps and raging blizzards 

They were taking over the thread it was getting so repetitive seeing them saying the same thing day after day and replying to everyone’s messages. Such a better read in the Mad thread without them tonight   Hopefully Steve may make a reappearance now , or at least in this thread   

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  • Location: Hailsham, East Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy snow and ice days
  • Location: Hailsham, East Sussex
1 hour ago, TomSE12 said:

Hi Paul and Sheldon,

In my light hearted Sammy Snowman post this Morning, I made reference to an Arctic High, a very elusive beast.

In the build up to the January 1987 event, the Arctic High, became a major player.

A few archive charts below, of a few Days before the event started:

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Below, the first Day of Snow Showers arriving, in our Region:

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Regards,

Tom.  

Thanks Tom. I’ll never forget that first day. We were sent home from school early as they knew what was on its way and half way on my way back home the first shower hit and then they just kept coming and coming, getting heavier and heavier all the time.

At the time I was living just outside of Eastbourne and, safe to say, marginality was not an issue for us given the severity of that set up!

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  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
8 minutes ago, simonhall6 said:

They were taking over the thread it was getting so repetitive seeing them saying the same thing day after day and replying to everyone’s messages. Such a better read in the Mad thread without them tonight   Hopefully Steve may make a reappearance now , or at least in this thread   

Thats fair enough but calling it as you see it whether it be a cold or mild outcome if backed up should be accepted and not shot down if you don't like what you read.

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  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snowy Weather
  • Location: Lee, London. SE12, 41 mts. 134.5 ft asl.

Apologies for the quality of these images.

The first depicts S.E. Meteorologist Ian Currie, standing next to a huge Snowdrift, outside the School where he was a Geography Teacher, in Caterham, Surrey, 16th January 1987.

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Outside Mr.Currie's house in Coulsdon, Surrey, on the same Day.

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These images are reproduced from the Surrey County Weather Book, with the kind permission of Co-Author, Ian Currie.

I have newspaper clippings of Daily Weather reports of this event.

If memory serves, Southend had around the equivalent of an inch of rainfall on a couple of Days, during this event.

I'm sure Paul Sherman will be able to confirm, if this is correct or not.

An inch of rain, roughly equates to around 10 inches of Snow.

I lived in the Bromley, N.W.Kent area, at the time.

We had around a foot of level Snow, by the end of that event.

The East of our Region, was particularly badly affected with many Villages isolated for Days.

I seem to remember that this bitter, Snowy spell lasted for about 2 Weeks, before a thaw set in.

Regards,

Tom. 

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  • Location: Tonbridge, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Wintry and stormy weather
  • Location: Tonbridge, Kent
2 hours ago, Paul Sherman said:

34 Years ago today at about this time the Max Temps seen on the 12th Jan 1987

-9.1C Warlingham

-8.9C Shoeburyness

-8.8C Bingley

-8.0C Norwich

-8.0C Luton

-8.0C Bristol

-8.0C Emley Moor

-7.8C Odiham

-7.7C Herstmonceux

-7.4C Farnborough

-7.3C Church Lawford

-7.2C Bedford

-7.2C Lyneham

-7.0C Marham

-7.0C Larkhill

-6.5C Cambridge

Now thats a notable cold spell from the East 

Fond memories

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  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
  • Weather Preferences: 30 Degrees of pure British Celsius
  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham

Hi Tom, great post!

Yes Jan 1987 was really the daddy of them all!...most severe cold snowy spell I believe in the 20th Century in the UK (I think or maybe England)?

Where I live in Burnham we had 15 inches of level snow and was cut-off for 3 days, a snow plough finally got in, the photos I showed a week back were taken by my late father and they were the 'understated' ones with his trusty Olympus trip camera...at the time I wasn't that up with SLR cameras and if I could have taken photos it would have shown the main Burnham road B1010 with a one lane clearance in the middle and snow piled up either side to 7/8 feet (like a scene from Norway). Further round the bend going out of town a 6 axle lorry was abandoned, I climbed up an east facing drift onto the freight...an incredible sight for miles across the fields some 12 feet or so up.

Scenes will never be replicated like that again...snow drifts remained in ditches up until late March.

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  • Location: Rotherhithe, 5.8M ASL
  • Location: Rotherhithe, 5.8M ASL

Well BBC use ECM data and the latest run was quite a significant move in a more favourable direction.

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The updated fax charts for midday Thursday also showing a noticeable shift of low further SW which would allow colder air to undercut quicker. 

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  • Location: Mill Corner East Sussex, 55m asl
  • Weather Preferences: snow,thunder,tornados
  • Location: Mill Corner East Sussex, 55m asl
10 minutes ago, Southender said:

Well. The MOD thread is absolute comedy gold this evening. Giving me a good chuckle  

I may have a sneaky peek, im in full ppe

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)

Ridiculously cold temperatures here on the North Kent coast on this day in '87 with -5.2°C in Herne Bay, -3.9°C in Margate, -5.8°C at Faversham and -5.4°C at Manston Airport. Unimaginable maximum temperatures now, especially along this stretch of Kent.

That is what we call a true Beast From the East ladies and gentlemen.

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  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Swineshead, Boston, Lincolnshire

I would pay a fortune to have this all over again.....maybe we can all chip in?

 

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  • Location: Hailsham, East Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy snow and ice days
  • Location: Hailsham, East Sussex
1 hour ago, TomSE12 said:

Apologies for the quality of these images.

The first depicts S.E. Meteorologist Ian Currie, standing next to a huge Snowdrift, outside the School where he was a Geography Teacher, in Caterham, Surrey, 16th January 1987.

image.thumb.png.444e7f64ab282e188e7fba7021065c08.png

Outside Mr.Currie's house in Coulsdon, Surrey, on the same Day.

image.thumb.png.7590290e5d62ce4fc94733a7c355c0d1.png

These images are reproduced from the Surrey County Weather Book, with the kind permission of Co-Author, Ian Currie.

I have newspaper clippings of Daily Weather reports of this event.

If memory serves, Southend had around the equivalent of an inch of rainfall on a couple of Days, during this event.

I'm sure Paul Sherman will be able to confirm, if this is correct or not.

An inch of rain, roughly equates to around 10 inches of Snow.

I lived in the Bromley, N.W.Kent area, at the time.

We had around a foot of level Snow, by the end of that event.

The East of our Region, was particularly badly affected with many Villages isolated for Days.

I seem to remember that this bitter, Snowy spell lasted for about 2 Weeks, before a thaw set in.

Regards,

Tom. 

Great pics Tom.

Those drifts remind me of what we had by the side of the A27 between Polegate and Lewes. A good 10 feet high in places I reckon.

My memory is understandably sketchy but as I recall we got pounded by convective showers for a few days and then had a frontal snow event to top things up. Maybe completely wrong on that though.

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