Scotland/Alba weather discussion - Jan 2021 onwards

[Puffy MacCloud]

Hang on, the Met Office has just given me my sleet back for tomorrow. Hallelujah!

[Penicuikblizzard]

2 hours ago, Ross B said:

Updated warning out for tomorrow. More of an emphasis on freezing rain to begin with, then snow above 100m (5-10cm)  with 2-5cm lower levels overnight. If anything, the warning covers more of the south west.

 

Hedging their bets which I can't blame them for as it'll be down to nowcasting. 

 

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 Snow level likely to be 100m north of the central belt, more likely 200m central belt south

Edited January 12, 2021 by Penicuikblizzard

[Ravelin]

1 hour ago, Serac said:

Afternoon All,

it’s all getting very interesting

Question if I may , how do I put certain posters on ignore ? Absolutely not for anyone on this thread , but on the MOD I clearly want to start ignoring all the superb, informative and educational posts so I can concentrate on the inane wittering of the doom merchants and those doing the hysterically unfunny one liners

thanks and good luck to all in the bonus snow this week

What, there's posters in the MOD thread who post one-liners, usually to wind people up...never

On at PC at least, if you hover the mouse cursor over the person's icon to the left of the post you get a pop up which has an 'ignore user' option.

Well we did have a dusting, or a sprinkling, whichever is the smaller of those two, of snow overnight. Wasn't a cold night by recent standards at -0.5C at the coldest and it's currently up to 1.7C, but dewpoint stubbornly sub zero all day. A nice sunny day with a bit of a breeze and patches of snow/ice easily surviving in the shade.

MetO has Alford down for a sleety, rainy mix on Thursday, but with temps of 1 or 2C my extra height might just make the difference. I'd certainly expect the forestry trails further up the hill to get a fresh covering of snow.

Edited January 12, 2021 by Ravelin

[Eastern Scotland WX]

1 hour ago, Blitzen said:

There is a God!!

A tad conflicting though don't you think?

 

I honestly don’t understand why the tay region isn’t covered near Perth , but Coastal Edinburgh is? . Every model agrees with what i just said.

[Penicuikblizzard]

At Straiton the met have us down for 24hrs of sleet yay can’t wait

Penicuik will do well I lived there for many years and it always seems to do really well in the marginal situations

[blitzen]

Current stats for here:-

1.6c/-0.3c/87% humidity/1015.6mb/4.9mph/S/00mm rainfall and the braw day continues!

Edited January 12, 2021 by Blitzen

[101_North]

After reaching a scorching 0.6c in the garden earlier it's back down below freezing at -0.3c. 

[Ruzzi]

Well at 200m I'm starting to fancy something decent tomorrow night. 

Freezing rain preceeding a decent fall of snow can only lead to utter carnage.

There was a decent westward correction this morning on the met office fax charts and the icon meaning snow extent further west than previously, and in these situations it can be very common for continued minor westward adjustments right up to T0.... Could bring more of a surprise than is currently forecast. There's always going to be the danger for lower ground of a slushy mix because the conditions are ofcourse marginal whatever way you look at it, but for the higher ground, if the westward push continues and we can get the band to stall overhead then it could get very interesting! 

[Stormeh]

I love these type of events 

Will it? or won’t it? Nobody knows! 

Sleet is forecast for here, we have to wait and see. Good luck to everyone

 

[petewaugh]

Feb 2002.    One for Shuggee - he'll know where this is.

[JoeShmoe]

1 hour ago, Penicuikblizzard said:

At Straiton the met have us down for 24hrs of sleet yay can’t wait

Penicuik will do well I lived there for many years and it always seems to do really well in the marginal situations

Be amazed if we see anything in town / at the coast .. be back up Arthurs seat tomorrow tho with the sledge

[Eagle Eye]

Snow resigned to mountain tops in Fort William but still sort of lying a bit on ground at points. 

[shuggee]

9 minutes ago, petewaugh said:

Feb 2002.    One for Shuggee - he'll know where this is.

Ha ha Pete - it's a 50mph chicane over that bridge on Holms Water! Get the JCB out.

Max of -1.1C this afternoon, but not an ice day as at 00:01 it was +0.7C. 

[petewaugh]

Just now, shuggee said:

Ha ha Pete - it's a 50mph chicane over that bridge on Holms Water! Get the JCB out.

Max of -1.1C this afternoon, but not an ice day as at 00:01 it was +0.7C. 

It needed a JCB. You can still see the tine marks from the JCB bucket at various places on the road into Broughton. I've a great video of that day somewhere.

[Ross B]

 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Ross B

[Ruzzi]

38 minutes ago, petewaugh said:

Feb 2002.    One for Shuggee - he'll know where this is.

Was it not 2001?

Only reason I ask is because Feb 2001 gave me the most insane overnight snowfall I've ever seen. Literally 50cm+ over the course of a day and a bit and extreme drifting over single story bungalows etc. If I remember correctly it was a low pressure system that stalled on the south coast of the UK and left the central belt and Southern parts of Scotland in the firing line for strong easterly winds and relentless snowfall. 

Edit:

27th of February, found the chart... 

 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Ruzzi

[Ruzzi]

The further outlook from the MetO starting to sound very decent 

[petewaugh]

26 minutes ago, Ruzzi said:

Was it not 2001?

Only reason I ask is because Feb 2001 gave me the most insane overnight snowfall I've ever seen. Literally 50cm+ over the course of a day and a bit and extreme drifting over single story bungalows etc. If I remember correctly it was a low pressure system that stalled on the south coast of the UK and left the central belt and Southern parts of Scotland in the firing line for strong easterly winds and relentless snowfall. 

Edit:

27th of February, found the chart... 

 

Aye, you're correct. I couldn't recall exactly. I've never seen anything like it (inc '62).

[TinyTim]

20 minutes ago, CatchMyDrift said:

Somewhere's getting utterly pasted...but where? Also going to be a lot of people with wet snow and a big bowl of tears too

 

I'll throw my hat into the ring for that last one, Catch lol 

[JoeShmoe]

when does the euro4 get updated?

[Kirkcaldy Weather]

Tricky setup for tomorrow I was waiting for consistent signals before commenting and although my gut feeling says I might be let down by dewpoints again here the runs keep it as all snow for Fife and decent accumulations across the region usual case of high ground fairing best but it’s one of those where some will get a surprise and others will be rainy but here’s what the trend is

As the front moves in like the recent snowfalls, temperatures will be near 0, the 850hpa temperature being only around -1/-2 and no 528 dam also makes me wary but maybe it will be evaporative cooling causing the snow tbh it’s that tricky I’m not sure but looks like it will be freezing rain then as it moves further east gradually turning to snow (could be back to rain on the back edge) 

[Ross B]

24 minutes ago, CatchMyDrift said:

Somewhere's getting utterly pasted...but where? Also going to be a lot of people with wet snow and a big bowl of tears too

 

Yep. It won't be me with the tears as I know what to expect here, 20 years of net weather experience on these

[Quinach]

Very useable day.

Light winds, plenty of sunshine and dry; overnight low of -1.3c with frost persisting in the shade all day.  Max of 3c.

Perfect weather to throw the kids outside for a while to workout the stress of homeschooling.

Looks like a freezing rainfest for here in the coming days going by the Met Office et al, but as ever subject to change at short notice.

[edo]

Yeah I'm a positive person and it's not reverse psychology... Unless an upgrade on how low the dewpoints go i can't see anything decent here. 

Tim you are cursed.... Move away please

[Penicuikblizzard]

1 hour ago, Ruzzi said:

Was it not 2001?

Only reason I ask is because Feb 2001 gave me the most insane overnight snowfall I've ever seen. Literally 50cm+ over the course of a day and a bit and extreme drifting over single story bungalows etc. If I remember correctly it was a low pressure system that stalled on the south coast of the UK and left the central belt and Southern parts of Scotland in the firing line for strong easterly winds and relentless snowfall. 

Edit:

27th of February, found the chart... 

 

I was living in Penicuik back then and we had 30cm level snow from that event and the drifts were just ridiculous