Far north and northeast of England weather discussion

[shawty1984]

14 minutes ago, Rollo said:

What’s wrong with Graupel? Otherwise known as soft hail ,it does nor melt as quickly as a snowflake and makes a good base for the snow to lie on.

Considering all we got was graupel yesterday and most of today, there is hardly anything left of it. 

[shawty1984]

9 minutes ago, **!!** said:

I think the current setup is quite encouraging for Teesside especially right now, there seems to be abit of a backlog of showers developing.

The showers also seem to be more organised in general across the region 

I was reading that last night and all of today. Nothings really happening though

[seabreeze86]

Showers managed to only clip here so far plenty more incoming though

[Smoggieontour]

8 minutes ago, Snowmaggedon said:

They must be moving at a snail’s pace absolutely nothing in Boro yet. 

Graupel shower in Thorntree atm pal, looks like the heavier stuff has just missed again though.

[Gizzy]

Black here,absolutely hammering down , huge flakes  - at last.

And been has heavy snow from 6 tonight to 6 tomorrow night.

Bring it on.

[Smoggieontour]

1 minute ago, Gizzy said:

Black here,absolutely hammering down , huge flakes  - at last.

And been has heavy snow from 6 tonight to 6 tomorrow night.

Bring it on.

Aye direct hit for you that time! Another near miss for me.

 

 

[smogonthetyne]

Looks like snow now.  Flakes!

[Thundery wintry showers]

11 minutes ago, damianslaw said:

Not heard or seen any reports of anything other than moderate snow today, no full on heavy intense outbursts. Any reasons, very little deep green, yellow action. 

The skew-t charts show that while conditions have got unstable enough to produce sunshine and snow showers, the instability is relatively shallow with a cap at around 750mb:

Ideally you'd want it to be unstable up to 700mb or higher to produce the heavier stuff.  Similarly, the GFS CAPE/LI charts are only pointing towards modest instability at present.  There are hints that instability may increase for a time early on Wednesday as the north-easterly with lower thicknesses heads in, with the profile being unstable up to 700mb rather than the current 750mb, which would allow those towering cumulus and cumulonimbus tops to climb higher and bring heavier showers.  Winds will be falling lighter by then, but the latest GFS precipitation charts do point towards snow showers heading a fair way inland from the North Sea in this region of the UK, less so further south.

[Snowmaggedon]

Very light snow now...

[Gizzy]

3 minutes ago, Smoggieontour said:

Aye direct hit for you that time! Another near miss for me.

 

 

There is a couple of larger ones following as well by the look of it, think they should hit both of us - fingers crossed 

[P-M]

3 minutes ago, Thundery wintry showers said:

The skew-t charts show that while conditions have got unstable enough to produce sunshine and snow showers, the instability is relatively shallow with a cap at around 750mb:

Ideally you'd want it to be unstable up to 700mb or higher to produce the heavier stuff.  Similarly, the GFS CAPE/LI charts are only pointing towards modest instability at present.  There are hints that instability may increase for a time early on Wednesday as the north-easterly with lower thicknesses heads in, with the profile being unstable up to 700mb rather than the current 750mb, which would allow those towering cumulus and cumulonimbus tops to climb higher and bring heavier showers.  Winds will be falling lighter by then, but the latest GFS precipitation charts do point towards snow showers heading a fair way inland from the North Sea in this region of the UK, less so further south.

So in a nutshell,  rubbish for deep convection until Wednesday? Also that chart is for East Lothian or have I got that wrong TWS? 

[Flake news]

Just popped in to hank you all for bringing the word 'graupel' into my life.

[Gizzy]

3 minutes ago, apophenia said:

Just popped in to hank you all for bringing the word 'graupel' into my life.

Do you know how to pronounce it though.

Because I don't lol.

 

[smogonthetyne]

11 minutes ago, smogonthetyne said:

Looks like snow now.  Flakes!

Didn’t even last 3 minutes 

[Vee89]

Not looking good for here. 
Met office now only forecasting light snow, and everything on radar going above or below us. 

[seabreeze86]

Snow still light but settled easily everywhere going white again. 

[Doctor96]

temp dropped sharply here in Yarm  

[Snowmaggedon]

Blizzard like conditions here for a couple of minutes with proper snow...

Aaaaand it has stopped. 

In fact its still coming down but lighter intensity 

Edited February 8, 2021 by Snowmaggedon

[seabreeze86]

1 minute ago, Doctor96 said:

temp dropped sharply here in Yarm  

Yeah has here to not going to take much snow to get a few cm on the floor 

[paddydog]

I was down on the beach with the dog an hour ago, the wind has shifted to a more north easterly direction, I don't know if that will make any difference through the night. You could see showers way out to sea but they didn't look to be getting any closer, rather like they were petering out.

Edited February 8, 2021 by paddydog

[J-Man]

Proper flakes of snow finally coming out of the sky when i was leaving work, bodes well for tonight if the showers intensify, as i think they will, and temp drops....im hopefully of waking to proper snow tomorrow.

[Thundery wintry showers]

27 minutes ago, P-M said:

So in a nutshell,  rubbish for deep convection until Wednesday? Also that chart is for East Lothian or have I got that wrong TWS? 

It is, yes.  There's also skew-t charts for Newcastle in Netweather Extra but I was hesitant to post them here, but it suffices to say that they are similar to the East Lothian one today and show instability temporarily extending up to 700mb early on Wednesday.

This is often the problem with easterlies, continental air is fundamentally dry and stable so you need the conditions to be right to give deep instability (relatively high 1000-500mb thicknesses may be an issue in this particular case for example).  That's why I used to say I preferred a N/NE type of flow as those are usually easily unstable enough as they bring low thicknesses/upper cold pools down from the Arctic and have a long sea track, giving deep instability, but in recent years they often haven't been cold enough.

Edited February 8, 2021 by Thundery wintry showers

[Polarwesterly]

[Phil Blake]

The last sort of half hour the showers are starting to move from a more north easterly direction. Hopefully 1 heading for the CLS area

Edited February 8, 2021 by Phil Blake

[MonkeyMag]

Newcastle going to get plastered off that red echo