Far north and northeast of England weather discussion

[Chris Smith]

The transition zone is very narrow again this morning. The bottom of the field up the bank opposite is green, the top is white. The rooftops on the top of the bank are all white, but not down here in the valley.

[Cloud 10]

Managed a couple of  cm of snow in the early hours but very slushy now and drizzly.

 

Medium/longer term prospects look awesome though.

 

[Phil Blake]

49 minutes ago, Cloud 10 said:

Managed a couple of  cm of snow in the early hours but very slushy now and drizzly.

 

Medium/longer term prospects look awesome though.

 

Unless my eyes deceive me, that looks like 8 members now below -10. And the mean firmly between -5 and -10. Looking good indeed 

[Snowmaggedon]

Really hope our luck turns with this potential Beast from the East! Would love another 2018 when we got buried! 

[Rollo]

It looks likely that we lower lying areas may have to wait till next week for our snow. Will it be snowmageddon? ten in next week!

[NickR]

4 hours ago, Chris Smith said:

The transition zone is very narrow again this morning. The bottom of the field up the bank opposite is green, the top is white. The rooftops on the top of the bank are all white, but not down here in the valley.

Which bank?

[Phil Blake]

Current sea surface temperature anomaly still showing the north sea above average. A beast if we do happen to get one with uppers sub -12 would be some great convection for the north east. Especially if we can get the flow right

 

[Chris Smith]

1 hour ago, NickR said:

Which bank?

Esh, as viewed from Langley Park.

[John in the frozen north]

We had about 2cm of snow at 140m in Hexham this morning but nothing in the town centre. Gone now.

[Polarwesterly]

The best of both worlds here, Greenland and scandi blocking. 
 

“25-28 January 1996 Heavy snowfall
Heavy and prolonged snow blocked roads in the region. 20-40cm was typical, with 50cm reported from NW County Durham.”

 

 

[Gizzy]

10 minutes ago, Polarwesterly said:

The best of both worlds here, Greenland and scandi blocking. 
 

“25-28 January 1996 Heavy snowfall
Heavy and prolonged snow blocked roads in the region. 20-40cm was typical, with 50cm reported from NW County Durham.”

 

 

Ah those were the days, the three snowflakes sign, you knew you were in business then.

[Polarwesterly]

10 hours ago, Gizzy said:

Ah those were the days, the three snowflakes sign, you knew you were in business then.

I remember being visibly upset when they changed the graphics later in the 2000’s

[Snowmaggedon]

What’s it looking like for the region with this easterly becoming increasingly likely? 

[northumberland snowman]

Looks like something is brewing for this time next week. Not getting overly excited just yet but would be nice to have non marginal snow.

 

Finally stopped raining here and can even make out a small break in the clouds.

[Rollo]

1 hour ago, Snowmaggedon said:

What’s it looking like for the region with this easterly becoming increasingly likely? 

If the charts keep their promise you will not be talking about a couple of centimetres of slush more like at least 15 cm + of lovely snow.

[Snowmaggedon]

Oh wow. Fingers crossed because it’s been an a abysmal winter snow wise for Teesside and some other parts of the NE!

[gazzac69]

Wow, just looked at the 00 gfs charts, we look good for a serious cold snap from this time next week onwards - hope this verifies for our region

we are also on the northern edge of snow warnings from the Meto for early next week - going to be an interesting weekend of model watching fingers crossed, let the beast be unleashed

Edited January 29, 2021 by gazzac69

[Smoggieontour]

3 hours ago, Snowmaggedon said:

What’s it looking like for the region with this easterly becoming increasingly likely? 

In terms of snow in Middlesbrough, the setup showing in the charts is pretty much as good as it gets. We know how difficult it is to get snow here; frontal snow from fronts approaching from the SW generally don't come off as we're either too far north or we end up with a slushfest, we don't do great from a NWerly and we struggled with the last easterly as it was too borderline given our proximity to the coast and lack of altitude.

We do well with winds anywhere between N and E, although NE'ly is probably best. With what is showing in the charts, we'd be looking at days heavy snow showers bubbling up due to the low uppers and relatively warm North Sea, possibly merging to give longer spells of snow at times. And, for once, there'd be no marginality from Friday evening onwards.

Still lots of time to pass before then and many things that could go wrong but easily our best chance of significant snow in Teesside since 2018.

[Gizzy]

Don't tell anyone yet but it's looking like the beast could be on its way.

Good things come to those that wait and for some of us in the north east, especially Teesside, we have been very patient.

[Rollo]

1 minute ago, Smoggieontour said:

In terms of snow in Middlesbrough, the setup showing in the charts is pretty much as good as it gets. We know how difficult it is to get snow here; frontal snow from fronts approaching from the SW generally don't come off as we're either too far north or we end up with a slushfest, we don't do great from a NWerly and we struggled with the last easterly as it was too borderline given our proximity to the coast and lack of altitude.

We do well with winds anywhere between N and E, although NE'ly is probably best. With what is showing in the charts, we'd be looking at days heavy snow showers bubbling up due to the low uppers and relatively warm North Sea, possibly merging to give longer spells of snow at times. And, for once, there'd be no marginality from Friday evening onwards.

Still lots of time to pass before then and many things that could go wrong but easily our best chance of significant snow in Teesside since 2018.

The problem with this winter in particular has been the raised North Sea temperatures, where I live there have in November, December and January where the North Sea influence here about 12 miles from the coast has turned virtually veering on the wrong side of marginal. I hope from that point of view this winter is a one off but I fear it is a result of Global Warming. 
It would be a sad state of affairs if low ground in the North East had to rely on the Beast every winter. Never mind things are currently looking promising after the middle of next week as folks  say what can possibly go wrong!!

[Cloud 10]

Quite a juicy update from the Met.

 

Wintry precipitation is likely to persist over northern areas on Wednesday, showers in the far southwest, elsewhere rather cloudy with plenty of dry weather. Mild at first in the south; though high pressure building up over the north of the UK during this period is likely to bring easterly winds, cold temperatures, and coastal snow showers. A pattern of wintry showers persisting across the far north, elsewhere seeing mostly fine weather, widespread frosts, fog, and icy patches. Eastern parts seeing the most hazardous conditions, with further snow showers likely. The south and west will see the most of any organised rain and snow, but frontal systems are generally not expected to progress across the country.

Updated: 16:00 (UTC) on Fri 29 Jan 2021

 

High pressure to the north looks set to remain for at least the beginning of this period, before slowly declining, although confidence at this range is low. Mid February will continue to see cold, dry, and wintry weather, but towards the end of the month more unsettled weather may encroach from the Atlantic. These may bring rain and snow at times to the west and southwest. There is a continued risk of significant snowfall events on the boundary between colder and milder airmasses, with snow possible in many areas.

Updated: 16:00 (UTC) on Fri 29 Jan 2021

[NickR]

Charts I've seen suggest SE and EA getting the best from the conditions in 7 days. Are we going to get scraps again compared to them?

[Polarwesterly]

UKMO at 144. Lovely area of heights to the north

[NickR]

1 minute ago, Polarwesterly said:

UKMO at 144. Lovely area of heights to the north

Again, does that not indicate the serious snow further S?

[Bridgehill Blizzard]

Sleety showers over Consett. Temp gone from 6.0c to 3.0c