North West Regional Discussion 30 December 2020 onwards

[Kasim Awan]

Uppers of -9.4 arriving around dawn. So pretty much everything will be falling as snow for a short window.

[SnowWatcher2]

18 minutes ago, Kasim Awan said:

Uppers of -9.4 arriving around dawn. So pretty much everything will be falling as snow for a short window.

That's the streamers moving away from Shaw and Crompton then, its like a curse, no problem with them passing over us when it rains, but soon as snow is involved it likes to move North and South of us.

[iand61]

After a milder day where showers became more sleety they are starting to turn more to snow again now.

maybe there will be another covering in the morning.

[Frost HoIIow]

Not entirely sure what it's doing on the summit of the M62. Although the camera seems to have snowflakes stuck to it. I think this about 300m asl.

[frosty ground]

Showers are starting to pack a punch coming in off the North Sea now.

Dusting of snow once again after a general thaw today.

[cheshire snow]

Euro4 showing snow cover tomorrow morning Manchester Northwards accross to cheshire and South Wirral ironically not showing any snow cover East of the pennines.

Cold 850s tomorrow even at 1700 tomorrow still showing -7 to -8 so would suspect areas 150m plus will see PPN stay as snow through the day.

C.S

Edited January 4, 2021 by cheshire snow

[Frost HoIIow]

6 minutes ago, cheshire snow said:

Euro4 showing snow cover tomorrow morning Manchester Northwards accross to cheshire and South Wirral ironically not showing any snow cover East of the pennines.

Cold 850s tomorrow even at 1700 tomorrow still showing -7 to -8 so would suspect areas 150m plus will see PPN stay as snow through the day.

C.S

Sounds better than the Granada reports forecast. Snow confined to hill tops, rain to lower levels Kerry said. Probably playing it safe though.

[SnowWatcher2]

Temps not looking good here at moment as they have risen from 2.4C to 2.9C in the past hour. Wrong direction!

[Spah1]

Boris Johnson is expected to announce a set of new national restrictions for England, similar to the March lockdown, in a televised address at 20:00 GMT. 

The PM is likely to urge the public to follow the new rules from midnight.

It is expected people will be told to work from home if possible and schools will close for most pupils.

The PM hopes the SSW will deliver copious amounts of snow which will help people stay at home. 

[cheshire snow]

Would be a double whammy though if we were to be crippled by snow and cold you will always get the ones who know best and go out and slip breaking bones hense putting more pressure on the NHS.

C.S

[Frost HoIIow]

A mix here of sleet and snow in the last shower. Temp bang on 1C.

 

[iand61]

2 minutes ago, Spah1 said:

Boris Johnson is expected to announce a set of new national restrictions for England, similar to the March lockdown, in a televised address at 20:00 GMT. 

The PM is likely to urge the public to follow the new rules from midnight.

It is expected people will be told to work from home if possible and schools will close for most pupils.

The PM hopes the SSW will deliver copious amounts of snow which will help people stay at home. 

If his government has had anything to do with sorting the SSW then it’s bound to end up in the wrong place, arrive much to late and will turn out to benefit everyone apart from ourselves.

 

[SnowWatcher2]

1 minute ago, iand61 said:

If his government has had anything to do with sorting the SSW then it’s bound to end up in the wrong place, arrive much to late and will turn out to benefit everyone apart from ourselves.

 

Don't worry though, It'll always make a U turn.

[Spah1]

Looks good Thursday.

Oh. Starts to fizzle. 
 

........and by the time it arrives it’s a non event! 

[Spah1]

Unfortunately Chorley never gets anything from an Easterly. Got a dusting in 2018. I’ll be surprised if I get a dusting by lunch tomorrow. Hope those further East do ok. 

[iand61]

8 minutes ago, Spah1 said:

Looks good Thursday.

Oh. Starts to fizzle. 
 

........and by the time it arrives it’s a non event! 

And then no doubt intensifies again over the Midlands.

[Iceaxecrampon]

Terriers on tour at Balderstone. Overcast and temps up but lanes still holding ice. View down the valley to the aqueduct. Pendle Hill looked alpine.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Spah1]

New lockdown announced

[damianslaw]

3 hours ago, Geordiesnow said:

Unless there is a trough feature forecast, it's going to be hard to see much PPN making it west of the Pennines, that's just the way it is with easterlies. 

As for later on the week, it could be a classic case of charts that don't look snowy on face value could well end up being snowy. The more kinks and lower thicknesses there is, the higher chance that front will intensify. Hopefully before that, we can return to a sharp night time frost when this easterly flow eases, Wednesday night got the potential to be the coldest night of the season so far.

Showers made it this far west today, whilst nothing susbtantive or long lasting, they made it which counts. Wind direction isn't going to change over next 24 hours and with colder air moving in, chance any showers that do fall will be more wintry in nature, obviously the more intense and long lasting they are, the greater chance snow will fall. Its a messy picture, but under any streamer or banding some more continuous snow could fall anywhere, nowcasting situation.

[WillinGlossop]

Moderate snow shower atm 0c 

[Spah1]

 

[Had Worse]

Not looked out in the last 5 but it was a sleety shower for me.

[WillinGlossop]

11 minutes ago, Had Worse said:

Not looked out in the last 5 but it was a sleety shower for me.

They need to be heavier and more frequent to do anything meaningful 

[Kasim Awan]

Convection is really poor.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Kasim Awan

[Mark_p]

I don't anything from tonight here on the Grt Manchester Merseyside border but I've been keeping an eye on the radar now and then out of curiosity. It looks like there is a 'streamer' setting itself up from the North Sea coast through york/leeds heading towards Manchester but it's a very lacklustre looking affair so far. You'd have thought elevation to the east of the region could get something out of this if convection does kick off more - I believe in you North Sea!