North West Regional Discussion 30 December 2020 onwards

[Davidblue]

Turned from sleet to snow in salford too little too late though 

[Dan B]

24 minutes ago, Snow free zone said:

Nothing but rain and sleet in this part of Preston 

 

Back to rain here now

 

Had about 3 hours of snow; but none stuck at all as it's so wet

 

Where are you in Preston?

[Geordiesnow]

7 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Throwing towell in. Precip not heavy enough. Bring on next week.

Yep game over for the north west by large, too me it's just not cold enough, bad timing probably also. In fairness the forecast did say the Pennine regions will be most hit and that was spot on. 

What's happening next week? I'm only briefly looking at the models and not viewing the model thread too much(which is ashame as I missed out on the Steve Murr drama) but it looks typical winter weather too me. Might be a bit of polar air but I dont see any significant cold on the way? 

[damianslaw]

A frustrating situation. Ventured up to 230m and as expected everything coated in white, nearing on a couple of inches, drop to 180m and there is about an inch, drop to 150m and it becomes a slushy mess. Fine margins make a difference. If precipitation was heavier and had we slightly colder air a very good event would have happened. Alas was always going to be borderline here.

Still awaiting first cover of more than 1cm this season..

We have a fine sleet at present, a yuck day.

Edited January 14, 2021 by damianslaw

[Penrith Snow]

2 minutes ago, Geordiesnow said:

Yep game over for the north west by large, too me it's just not cold enough, bad timing probably also. In fairness the forecast did say the Pennine regions will be most hit and that was spot on. 

What's happening next week? I'm only briefly looking at the models and not viewing the model thread too much(which is ashame as I missed out on the Steve Murr drama) but it looks typical winter weather too me. Might be a bit of polar air but I dont see any significant cold on the way? 

What Steve Murray drama?

[SnowWatcher2]

Its avin a laugh with us here, nice bit of ppn just seemed to be born out of Manchester n sods of west

[cheshire snow]

16 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Throwing towell in. Precip not heavy enough. Bring on next week.

Next week looks awful Chris more cold rain by the looks of it going have to wait for the second warming of the strat and hope for a split instead of a displacement same areas as today to get hammered again on Saturday all a bit meh at the moment 

C.S

[Had Worse]

11 minutes ago, Penrith Snow said:

What Steve Murray drama?

I've pm'd you.

[Chris.R]

Well it’s better than nothing at least we are in with a chance as cold air isn’t that far away. You never know I think there will be some surprises. Let’s not lose all hope yet.

[Geordiesnow]

10 minutes ago, Penrith Snow said:

What Steve Murray drama?

Banned apparently due to a falling out on the model thread, clearly bad language must of been used. It's ashame because whilst his posts may of been a bit SE bias at times(which is slightly understandable) he had the knowledge. 

Can understand frustrations boiling over though, I'm finding this winter frustrating in the aspect of there has not been true deep cold upper air temps wise for a significant period of time and most snowfalls have been transient but some have been quite significant and at least stayed on the ground for more than 24 hours. 

I'm taken more of a approach these days of well if it snows, it snows, if it does'nt, then it does'nt. Probably moving to a location that does not get much snow has helped in that but I'm not as much of a fan of winter as I was in the past. Summers are getting more interesting because of climate change and summers in the North West are definately warmer and sunnier than the North East! 

 

 

[Geordiesnow]

8 minutes ago, Chris.R said:

Well it’s better than nothing at least we are in with a chance as cold air isn’t that far away. You never know I think there will be some surprises. Let’s not lose all hope yet.

Just not convinced tbh Chris, I don't see any significant ridges or height rises and a lack of cold air could become an issue again. As it happens another trough over the UK probably increases our chances but as it stands, Im not seeing much potential in the output at the moment. 

[Chris.R]

13 minutes ago, Geordiesnow said:

Just not convinced tbh Chris, I don't see any significant ridges or height rises and a lack of cold air could become an issue again. As it happens another trough over the UK probably increases our chances but as it stands, Im not seeing much potential in the output at the moment. 

I know what you’re saying but let’s just wait-and-see. Maybe things will look different this time next week.

Edited January 14, 2021 by Chris.R

[Joe Snow]

Some places in Yorkshire just over the Pennines are reporting 10-15cm at quite modest elevation giving the heaviest snowfall locally since the 2018 BFTE not that I’m jealous or anything if only all that rain last night had fallen into slightly colder air!  Cold drizzle all day here in contrast might as well have been 12c you wouldn’t have noticed the difference just looking out the window ? 

[Spah1]

Looks like the same places will get hit on Saturday. Lucky buggers. We worked hard for our 1-2 cm over Xmas, they get 10 today! 

[Rain Lady]

Does anyone know what this symbol represents in Netweather local daily forecasts?

[SP1986]

In reality snow was never even a possibility this far west so there's no disappointment. It has however been very interesting watching events unfold over the the other side of the Pennines. It will be very interesting to see how low the temperatures drop over those snowfields tonight. 

 

Then on Saturday another round of rain here with snow in roughly a similar position to today. 

[damianslaw]

Skies clearing just a smidgen.. looking to my west can see lots of trees clothed in snow around 200m mark and local high ground all white... if only we were 100m higher! 

Tomorrow promises to be a cold sunny day and the views of snowy fells will be very welcomed after two very drab low cloud filled skies.. 

[Weather-history]

1 hour ago, cheshire snow said:

Next week looks awful Chris more cold rain by the looks of it going have to wait for the second warming of the strat and hope for a split instead of a displacement same areas as today to get hammered again on Saturday all a bit meh at the moment 

C.S

I think this week has shown that we can't take anything for granted in these scenarios, this time last week, did anyone expect a snow event for parts of the country this Thursday? 

[I Cumbria Marra I]

Theres a dusting of wet snow at about 250M 

[Geordiesnow]

7 minutes ago, I Cumbria Marra I said:

Theres a dusting of wet snow at about 250M 

Kinda shows we were not really close at all to anything significant at lower levels. Maybe PPN intensity was an issue but up here, I thought it was okay, at least a strong moderate rate. I think timing was not on our side as daytime heating(even with no sun) can play a part. Hopefully skies can clear and we can get some frosty weather for tomorrow. 

As for further ahead, nothing too exciting, bog standard winter outlook too me. 

[raul_sbd]

Models up and down atm 12z again improving a bit lol.. so many headaches for weather pros with this SSW effect! Fascinating for spectators though!

[cheshire snow]

2 hours ago, cheshire snow said:

Next week looks awful Chris more cold rain by the looks of it going have to wait for the second warming of the strat and hope for a split instead of a displacement same areas as today to get hammered again on Saturday all a bit meh at the moment 

C.S

Obviously posted this prior to this afternoon 12z came out which are a huge improvement not looking pass day 5 at the moment but maybe things changing for the better we will see.

C.S

[Winter Hill]

Had some heavy wet snow, Winter hill is covered. The snow line is about another 50m above my home

[Chris.R]

30 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

I think this week has shown that we can't take anything for granted in these scenarios, this time last week, did anyone expect a snow event for parts of the country this Thursday? 

yes exactly; this is my perspective on things.

[cheshire snow]

29 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

I think this week has shown that we can't take anything for granted in these scenarios, this time last week, did anyone expect a snow event for parts of the country this Thursday? 

To be Honest Kev and purely from a selfish point i am looking at this region to get clobbered not bothered about the NE or East.

C.S