Yorkshire and E England regional discussion

[Maltonman]

Took this while working Yesterday morning In Brough, summed it up on lower ground ??

[Winter Cold]

Yeah it's got to be one of the most disappointing weeks ever. All that excitement in the model thread, finally getting the 'kink' so that the cold 850s come in. We should have been buried with -9s but nothing has come of it. Showers have been pathetic!

Roll on to the next chance for me now, unfortunately it's going to be a while with 6c next week and no cold uppers.

Sorry for the moan! 

[Cheese Rice]

The uppers are mostly -7/-8 so I'm not surprised the outcome turned out the way it did. 

I said from the start it wasn't looking good, the Met Office didn't see any potential either, I think some on here are reading the charts wrong. 

We need uppers of around -12/-13 to see lying snow for costal areas and around -10/-11 inland in a showery easterly flow. 

There's some more significant ppn coming into Norfolk it's a shame we can't get anything like that further north. 

 

 

[Jeremy Shockey]

snowing again on top of the Wolds now at 240 m ........but even if you go down to 200 m it is sleety / rain     grrrrrrr

[NorthYorksWeather]

6 minutes ago, Jeremy Shockey said:

snowing again on top of the Wolds now at 240 m ........but even if you go down to 200 m it is sleety / rain     grrrrrrr

Temp 1.4c here with a dew of 0.6c and its still sleet.

[Geordiesnow]

23 minutes ago, Cheese Rice said:

The uppers are mostly -7/-8 so I'm not surprised the outcome turned out the way it did. 

I said from the start it wasn't looking good, the Met Office didn't see any potential either, I think some on here are reading the charts wrong. 

We need uppers of around -12/-13 to see lying snow for costal areas and around -10/-11 inland in a showery easterly flow. 

There's some more significant ppn coming into Norfolk it's a shame we can't get anything like that further north. 

 

 

Sorry but for your talking nonsense with that bit in bold.

The uppers are not the best but the high thicknesses and being so close to high pressure means it was never a full on convective easterly so this means higher dew points and therefore higher temperatures.

Seen snowfall lying on coastal areas in a convective easterly with -10 uppers before. I do agree it was hyped up quite a bit though.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Geordiesnow

[Cheese Rice]

3 minutes ago, Geordiesnow said:

Sorry but for your talking nonsense with that bit in bold.

The uppers are not the best but the high thicknesses and being so close to high pressure means it was never a full on convective easterly so this means higher dew points and therefore higher temperatures.

Seen snowfall lying on coastal areas in a convective easterly with -10 uppers before. I do agree it was hyped up quite a bit though.

 

It's a number of factors however the overriding factor is the poor uppers. You wouldn't get snow lying in a NWly with these uppers either. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Cheese Rice

[Maltonman]

Any news on the band of rain/sleet and snow coming south on Thurs/Friday? Are we expecting any potential surprises?

[Jeremy Shockey]

5 minutes ago, Maltonman said:

Any news on the band of rain/sleet and snow coming south on Thurs/Friday? Are we expecting any potential surprises?

It looks promising for North and West Yorkshire , but poor for East again.

That is a decaying front so may be patchy by the time it hits us. ( one to watch )

[Liam Taylor]

What about South Yorkshire 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Liam Taylor

[Maltonman]

2 minutes ago, Jeremy Shockey said:

It looks promising for North and West Yorkshire , but poor for East again.

That is a decaying front so may be patchy by the time it hits us. ( one to watch )

I'll expect nothing then ,bit like this week then

[Jeremy Shockey]

2 minutes ago, Liam Taylor said:

What South Yorkshire 

i hope you guys will see something out of it too but i am worried that it runs out of steam a bit after Northumberland , Durham and Cumbria 

[Liam Taylor]

3 minutes ago, Jeremy Shockey said:

i hope you guys will see something out of it too but i am worried that it runs out of steam a bit after Northumberland , Durham and Cumbria 

Ok

[NorthYorksWeather]

Temperature now ideal for snow at 0.6c with -0.1c dew but sods law shower has just passed the south of Malton over the Wolds. 

Plenty more out to sea so there's still a chance.

[Jeremy Shockey]

Just had a heavy shower in North Newbald that was all sleet , temp still 1.5 c here and dew point of 0.4 c ( the higher Wolds are getting a pasting of snow though ) 

[Adam lufc]

Interrsting 18z gfs over our rrgion again thursday night. Seems to intesify!! Hmmm wud love to see a MO warning. Not an advisory but gfs must be on its own here.

[farmans]

Snow flurries in north Sheffield now. Dusting on all surfaces now. Not many more showers on the radar though. 

[Geordiesnow]

4 hours ago, Cheese Rice said:

 

It's a number of factors however the overriding factor is the poor uppers. You wouldn't get snow lying in a NWly with these uppers either. 

Not at sea level with uppers of -7 or -8 going from my experience of living here but any reasonable height and 10 miles away from the coast, there is every chance.

High thicknesses and pressure has put a cap on shower activity in terms of their strength and this has meant dew points and temperatures at times are slightly higher. Uppers of -8 with low pressure and thicknesses would give a different result on higher ground especially.

[The PIT]

Few Snow showers overnight no cover of course. Local forecast having none of the snow Thursday evening and Friday

[NorthYorksWeather]

A light sugar coating of wintry precipitation this morning. Meanwhile the Moors/Wolds above 200m continues to see accumulating snow. Trouble on both Garrowby Hill and Sutton Bank this morning it would seem.

The North York Moors above 300 metres has seen snow on the ground since Xmas Eve now which is nearly 2 weeks. Elevation really has been a key factor in this “cold” spell.

 

[York-snow]

Very icy after the rain/sleet. Be careful!

[Sunny_AS]

Got a decent covering in Keighley from a snow shower at about 6.15am....

[Craigers]

Small dusting here with thick frost!

If only the snow showers picked up now!

Edited January 6, 2021 by Craigers

[Winter Cold]

Yeah was the same slight covering here this morning.

Looks like tomorrow night is our last chance for a while

[Hodgheg]

Meto shows an interesting feature running down the North Sea on Thursday night.