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  • Location: Malton, North Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme weather - any kind!
  • Location: Malton, North Yorkshire
    1 hour ago, Maltonman said:

    Some great snow pictures out there! Especially yours Cold Winter 😉

    The proper snow forecasts for us to the east of the region never seem to get any closer,will be end of January at this rate.

    Yeah there has been some promise at Day 5+ on several occasions and some nearer term possibilities but so far we’ve been the wrong side of marginal, except for Christmas Eve when there was a short-lived dusting.

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    Sorry guys. My mums still in a really bad way. I just wanted to post to quickly say tonight in my opinin is being underestimated. The trend today has been to keep the front as all snow

    Last one from me, great day...just stopped now so 11 hours of snow 👍👏👏 Hope those that missed out get some soon 🤞👍  

    Around 50cm has fallen across the highest parts of the North York Moors yesterday. Went for a walk this morning at Newgate Bank. Around 30cm of fresh powdery snow underfoot and quite difficult to

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  • Location: Home: Nr Malton, Howardian Hills 53m asl Work: North York Moors
  • Weather Preferences: Snow/Thunderstorms
  • Location: Home: Nr Malton, Howardian Hills 53m asl Work: North York Moors

    Cracking rainbow over Farndale in North York Moors this afternoon. Snowcover remains above 300m.

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  • Location: Garforth, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Heat, Snow, Thunder
  • Location: Garforth, Leeds 86m asl

    Must have been a good couple of inches here in Garforth this morning as the garden is still looking like a winter wonderland. Was only a cm or 2 at work in Cleckheaton which had almost gone when I left work at 2pm. Here's hoping for some more, bigger dumplings in the coming weeks! 20201229_145235.thumb.jpg.9bde86fd4d469592a945d067456920bc.jpg

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  • Location: South Yorkshire Barnsley 66m ASL
  • Location: South Yorkshire Barnsley 66m ASL

    Looks like 12z upgrades are back!

    UKMO solid with next weeks evolution 

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    Massive upgrade for Thursday morning on icon 12z

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  • Location: Barnsley (100m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Very cold/sunny, Snow, Hot/Thunderstorms
  • Location: Barnsley (100m ASL)

    12z Harmonie at the same time has the precipitation missing Yorkshire and going down the west side of UK.

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    Lets hope ICON has it right!

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
    8 minutes ago, SouthYorks said:

    12z Harmonie at the same time has the precipitation missing Yorkshire and going down the west side of UK.

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    Lets hope ICON has it right!

    Its still got to head south from there!

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  • Location: Rotherham
  • Weather Preferences: Snow Frost Sun
  • Location: Rotherham

    I'm surprised there's been no warnings put out by met for ice tonight, this snow on ground that's been thawing during day will freeze making untreated roads and footpaths like skating rinks.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    Thursday we get a second byte at the cherry after missing the first part. This will be a snow to rain by the looks of it later in the night. However things change so again a case of nowcasting.  Not much left of the snow here a patchy cover on the lawn and pavements clear. At the moment the cold spell looks set to continue into next week.

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  • Location: Barnsley (100m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Very cold/sunny, Snow, Hot/Thunderstorms
  • Location: Barnsley (100m ASL)
    20 minutes ago, Scott Ingham said:

    Its still got to head south from there!

    Unfortunately it just takes the whole lot south west...

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    GFS looks to be somewhere between the ICON and Harmonie but still only just skims Pennines.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    There's always the night

     

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
    11 minutes ago, SouthYorks said:

    Unfortunately it just takes the whole lot south west...

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    GFS looks to be somewhere between the ICON and Harmonie but still only just skims Pennines.

    That recurve of the snow for the south doing us no favours then.

    We could do with that heading south east!

    Lots of uncertainty id take another night like last night but a little disappointing its looking like snow to rain.

    If the continebt was colder it would be all snow

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
    1 minute ago, The PIT said:

    There's always the night

     

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    Is this a new development due to how far west the original precipitation goes

    Snow just as the clock strikes 12 would be nice!

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
    3 minutes ago, Scott Ingham said:

    Is this a new development due to how far west the original precipitation goes

    Snow just as the clock strikes 12 would be nice!

    Nope on the original run but people didn't click any further in when they the saw the first lot of precipitation going west.

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  • Location: Barnsley (100m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Very cold/sunny, Snow, Hot/Thunderstorms
  • Location: Barnsley (100m ASL)
    8 minutes ago, The PIT said:

    Nope on the original run but people didn't click any further in when they the saw the first lot of precipitation going west.

    Harmonie only goes out to +48hrs so last frame is 13.00 on 31st.  GFS shows the 2nd band for 12 hours later as rain for most apart from highest ground.

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    But as Scott suggests, still time for change of track.

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  • Location: Otley(Leeds)
  • Location: Otley(Leeds)

    The problem with thursdays snow is not that we are going to miss it (too far west) it's that it will turn to rain on it's back edge or simply start melting in the afternoon.

    Such a shame as for days thursdays event was progged for the evening/night, but now it's quickly been brought forward. At night any thaw with higher uppers been brought in with precipitation, would have been minimal and probably followed by a frost.

    Never mind on the flip side most of us should get to see snow falling at a nice time, not some antisocial time through the night lol.

    Here's likeliest position of snow band come noon. 

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  • Location: Otley(Leeds)
  • Location: Otley(Leeds)
    10 minutes ago, SouthYorks said:

    Harmonie only goes out to +48hrs so last frame is 13.00 on 31st.  GFS shows the 2nd band for 12 hours later as rain for most apart from highest ground.

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    But as Scott suggests, still time for change of track.

    I think the second lot will be more in way of showers, if they come late enough tyeing in with arrival of tad colder uppers of -6 from the north that may just give us some snow that sticks around with little to no melt. 

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  • Location: Bramley, Rotherham - 114M ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold! Winter :)
  • Location: Bramley, Rotherham - 114M ASL

    So where are we at with the end of the week and into the weekend?

    Models show winds turning NE or E and I thought E is always best as you don't need as low dew points etc.

    Yet we're talking about still marginal and snow to rain. I thought it was due to get colder into end of the week?

    Bit confused tbh, guess things change

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(100m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(100m asl)

    Evening all

    i have been for a walk to clear my head today and decided to go up Bolsterstone near Stockbridge and there was less snow up there than where i live,the intensity must of dwindled a bit but i still enjoyed getting out

    snow snaps from earlier.

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    these two where my fave of the lenticular clouds in the sunset with the snow in the foreground.

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    looking forward to Thu/Fri chances.

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  • Location: Home: Nr Malton, Howardian Hills 53m asl Work: North York Moors
  • Weather Preferences: Snow/Thunderstorms
  • Location: Home: Nr Malton, Howardian Hills 53m asl Work: North York Moors
    57 minutes ago, Winter Cold said:

    So where are we at with the end of the week and into the weekend?

    Models show winds turning NE or E and I thought E is always best as you don't need as low dew points etc.

    Yet we're talking about still marginal and snow to rain. I thought it was due to get colder into end of the week?

    Bit confused tbh, guess things change

    The further inland and the higher you are the more confident you can be of snow.

    Thursday morning looks like an all snow event away from the immediate coast, NMM showing this nicely.

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    On Friday the winds veer north easterly and we start to bring in some convective showers off the North Sea but with 850hpa temps of -4 to -6c, which would probably limit any snow falling to high ground.

    NMM showing mostly rain for eastern areas on Friday with associated 850s. 

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    The long sea track of these NE winds is the issue with the North Sea still being relatively warm. Later in the weekend it looks like the 850s may lower somewhat and the winds turn more ENE which would increase the chance of anything from the NE falling as snow due to a shorter sea track. Our best bet of snow is disturbances in the flow such as this morning where we can see heavy more prolonged precip which include evaporative cooling which can help the snow level drop despite 850s only being -3/4c at best.

    For myself situated close to sea level only 25 miles from the coast, bar the odd surprise such as this morning I'm not expecting anything significant, I'm hoping that the high will eventually retrogress to Greenland and we see a pulse of colder air injected into the northerly flow so we don't have to worry above warm sectors etc. Meanwhile some decent frosts and some small temporary snowfall events to keep us interested.

     

     

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  • Location: Addingham moorside West Yorkshire 2-250m
  • Weather Preferences: Snow & Crisp Cold Days
  • Location: Addingham moorside West Yorkshire 2-250m

    Looking forward to Thursday morning it’s looking like my location could receive a good period of snow maybe an inch or so before slightly warmer air cuts through maybe turning to rain/drizzle on back edge be nice to see some snow in daylight hours for the kids to enjoy🤞

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  • Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, 110m
  • Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, 110m

    Lovely winters day here, clear sky and a little covering of snow, moon is ridiculously bright tonight as well! 

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  • Location: Bramley, Rotherham - 114M ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold! Winter :)
  • Location: Bramley, Rotherham - 114M ASL
    38 minutes ago, vizzy2004 said:

    The further inland and the higher you are the more confident you can be of snow.

    Thursday morning looks like an all snow event away from the immediate coast, NMM showing this nicely.

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    On Friday the winds veer north easterly and we start to bring in some convective showers off the North Sea but with 850hpa temps of -4 to -6c, which would probably limit any snow falling to high ground.

    NMM showing mostly rain for eastern areas on Friday with associated 850s. 

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    The long sea track of these NE winds is the issue with the North Sea still being relatively warm. Later in the weekend it looks like the 850s may lower somewhat and the winds turn more ENE which would increase the chance of anything from the NE falling as snow due to a shorter sea track. Our best bet of snow is disturbances in the flow such as this morning where we can see heavy more prolonged precip which include evaporative cooling which can help the snow level drop despite 850s only being -3/4c at best.

    For myself situated close to sea level only 25 miles from the coast, bar the odd surprise such as this morning I'm not expecting anything significant, I'm hoping that the high will eventually retrogress to Greenland and we see a pulse of colder air injected into the northerly flow so we don't have to worry above warm sectors etc. Meanwhile some decent frosts and some small temporary snowfall events to keep us interested.

     

     

    Cheers Andy! 👍

    Fingers crossed we all see some more snow this week 🌨️🤞

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  • Location: Wombwell, South Yorkshire (75m / 246ft ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Summer Sunshine / Winter Snow
  • Location: Wombwell, South Yorkshire (75m / 246ft ASL)

    A bit confused about Thursday's snow potential for our region or lack of it.

    There is a warning out for snow but the wording makes more of the fact any snow will be turning to rain rather than anything else.

    Then you look at the projected temperatures for Thursday which in my area are showing a max of 1c with light snow according to the automated forecast?

    The uppers will also be circa -4 to -7 which at face value are less marginal than today so I am not quite sure where this mild sector talk and 500m snow line is coming from as far as the Met Office are concerned?

    Similar uppers are predicted for Friday too yet we are seeing a warm up to 5c predicted for Friday according to the Met Office?

    I am sure my amateur brain must be missing something but I am nonetheless curious for an explanation?  Sea track maybe?

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  • Location: Home: Nr Malton, Howardian Hills 53m asl Work: North York Moors
  • Weather Preferences: Snow/Thunderstorms
  • Location: Home: Nr Malton, Howardian Hills 53m asl Work: North York Moors
    52 minutes ago, Kentish Snowman in Yorks said:

    A bit confused about Thursday's snow potential for our region or lack of it.

    There is a warning out for snow but the wording makes more of the fact any snow will be turning to rain rather than anything else.

    Then you look at the projected temperatures for Thursday which in my area are showing a max of 1c with light snow according to the automated forecast?

    The uppers will also be circa -4 to -7 which at face value are less marginal than today so I am not quite sure where this mild sector talk and 500m snow line is coming from as far as the Met Office are concerned?

    Similar uppers are predicted for Friday too yet we are seeing a warm up to 5c predicted for Friday according to the Met Office?

    I am sure my amateur brain must be missing something but I am nonetheless curious for an explanation?  Sea track maybe?

    Big change in precip track on 18z GFS so we need to hope we don’t see any more shifts or we might end up dry!

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  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(100m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: severe storms,snow wind and ice
  • Location: Hoyland,barnsley,south yorkshire(100m asl)

    The latest fax charts show a week trough early Thusday morning so we might see a dusting from that,then we have a triple point over northern England Friday midnight  then an occluded front moving down into the midlands Friday dinner.

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