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Guys calm down most winters we would love to see charts like we have now within the reliable time frame. The models will chop and change as there is a lot going on in the strat etc lots just enjoy the ride this is like no winter for the last 10 years, let’s see where we go from here hopefully cold and snowy but we shall see if a few days.

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I have heard from a reliable source that henceforth the European high will be known as 'Prozac Ridge'

I’m just wondering rather than having model verification stats, we should perhaps have poster verification stats. That way we can see who it’s worth paying attention to and who to disregard.....just a

Yes, I agree. I wanted snow as much as anyone but along with others was never enthused with this spell. I don't claim any crystal ball or magical abilities, but I can (most of the time) read a chart a

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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

    Feb 05 was actually fine here with 16 days of falling snow (not matched since) but no real persistence of cover and the Feb 23rd or 25th event was tame here (airport got 7 inches I think).

    Jan 19th 06 was the missed event when -20C uppers got as far west as Norway. The models never really lied to us for long though so it was not like Dec 12th.

    Mid-Dec 09-mid- Jan 10 was certainly exceptional. Not as cold as Dec 10 but more snowy. I recorded snow on the first ground for 30 days and 29cm, both records here.

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  • Location: Somerset midway between Bath&Wells. Mendips 200m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and lots of it or warm and sunny, no mediocre dross
  • Location: Somerset midway between Bath&Wells. Mendips 200m asl

    When all around is brown and mucky

    And the weather offers wet and yucky

    Keep a hope that it will change

    To white and crisp, it's within the range

    Of dreams that may well soon come true

    That snow and blizzards are coming to you

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  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast
  • Location: NR Worthing SE Coast

    hate this marginal rubbish,lets hope we get some cold uppers by end of the week.The tweet from the met is encouraging 

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  • Location: Shrewsbury,Shropshire
  • Location: Shrewsbury,Shropshire

    Had about 2 hours of glorious snow, very much like the December 2017 event which started as rain. Sadly this time it didn't carry on and is now a slushy wet mess 😞

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  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl

    This might be a little bit of a ramp but so what. 

     

    We now have reliable cold other the UK with many areas already seeing wintry showers or full on snow events (2 inches imby and even more in some other areas although starting to thaw a bit earlier). It's the third day of falling or lying snow here, with a potential 4th tomorrow and 5th on Thursday. 

     

    We have reliable time frame cold available on all models going into this weekend, and a potential snow event for the far south tomorrow. We have by far the best synoptic for a prolonged cold and snowy spell since January 2010, with the right lining of the stars I'm now confident that by the 3rd week of January we could have over a foot of snow even to low levels, and long lasting cold to keep it in place with temperatures widely below - 10 in city centres with big UHI's such as Manchester and London. 

     

    This winter will be severe, I can say this with confidence because one of the things that links every severe cold spell in British history is below average flights, naturally with Covid the number of flights has been far below average - indicating that January and February will be severely cold and snowy. Let's enjoy this historic period of weather. 

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  • Location: Tonbridge Kent
  • Location: Tonbridge Kent

    Looking at the models and ensembles, seems next 7-10 days is pretty much nailed-on to be cold but not cold enough to ensure snow falls to all levels!

    Also, some experts hinting that atmospheric changes and SSW will likely result in West based -NOA which won't favour UK  ☹️

    Disappointing, but we are in a much better place in terms of NH pattern than we've been during the last few winters.

    Lets hope that really cold air over the other side can somehow find its way towards NW Europe.

     

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  • Location: Home Kettering. Work Somerset.
  • Location: Home Kettering. Work Somerset.
    14 minutes ago, Deep Snow please said:

    This might be a little bit of a ramp but so what. 

     

    We now have reliable cold other the UK with many areas already seeing wintry showers or full on snow events (2 inches imby and even more in some other areas although starting to thaw a bit earlier). It's the third day of falling or lying snow here, with a potential 4th tomorrow and 5th on Thursday. 

     

    We have reliable time frame cold available on all models going into this weekend, and a potential snow event for the far south tomorrow. We have by far the best synoptic for a prolonged cold and snowy spell since January 2010, with the right lining of the stars I'm now confident that by the 3rd week of January we could have over a foot of snow even to low levels, and long lasting cold to keep it in place with temperatures widely below - 10 in city centres with big UHI's such as Manchester and London. 

     

    This winter will be severe, I can say this with confidence because one of the things that links every severe cold spell in British history is below average flights, naturally with Covid the number of flights has been far below average - indicating that January and February will be severely cold and snowy. Let's enjoy this historic period of weather. 

    I'm in northants. Do you see anything over the next two weeks that will give me anything lower than -2c.? 

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  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
  • Location: Blackburn - 180m asl
    5 minutes ago, Rammie said:

    I'm in northants. Do you see anything over the next two weeks that will give me anything lower than -2c.? 

    Yes. Snow cover and the clear cold pooling to our north and east on latest runs. 

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor

    What a pathetic effort for South Eastern parts during this cold spell.

    Not bad for Yorkshire, NW England, Wales and the Midlands with ample opportunities.

    Wake me up when proper Easterlies bring in the snow for the South East!!

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  • Location: Tonbridge Kent
  • Location: Tonbridge Kent
    18 minutes ago, prolongedSnowLover said:

    What a pathetic effort for South Eastern parts during this cold spell.

    Not bad for Yorkshire, NW England, Wales and the Midlands with ample opportunities.

    Wake me up when proper Easterlies bring in the snow for the South East!!

    I'm not sure about Windsor, but to be fair we've been in the firing line here in NW Kent (Tonbridge) on several occasions since 2010 especially March 2013 & February 2018  ❄️❄️❄️❄️

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor
    4 minutes ago, snowblizzard said:

    I'm not sure about Windsor, but to be fair we've been in the firing line here in NW Kent (Tonbridge) on several occasions since 2010 especially March 2013 & February 2018  ❄️❄️❄️❄️

    I don’t care about past winters. This winter so far has seen diddly squat for southerners!!

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  • Location: Shoreham-by-sea, West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: T storms, severe gales, heat and sun, cold and snow
  • Location: Shoreham-by-sea, West Sussex
    1 hour ago, Deep Snow please said:

    This might be a little bit of a ramp but so what. 

     

    We now have reliable cold other the UK with many areas already seeing wintry showers or full on snow events (2 inches imby and even more in some other areas although starting to thaw a bit earlier). It's the third day of falling or lying snow here, with a potential 4th tomorrow and 5th on Thursday. 

     

    We have reliable time frame cold available on all models going into this weekend, and a potential snow event for the far south tomorrow. We have by far the best synoptic for a prolonged cold and snowy spell since January 2010, with the right lining of the stars I'm now confident that by the 3rd week of January we could have over a foot of snow even to low levels, and long lasting cold to keep it in place with temperatures widely below - 10 in city centres with big UHI's such as Manchester and London. 

     

    This winter will be severe, I can say this with confidence because one of the things that links every severe cold spell in British history is below average flights, naturally with Covid the number of flights has been far below average - indicating that January and February will be severely cold and snowy. Let's enjoy this historic period of weather. 

    Thats a bold statement, wake me up when there's a frost let alone snow. 😁

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor
    1 minute ago, Freeze said:

    Thats a bold statement, wake me up when there's a frost let alone snow. 😁

    We had frost yesterday while the Midlands were seeing snow....

    Got low expectations until we see some synoptic changes with deep cold pooling nearby instead of the weak northerlies!

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    Pretty happy from the current maps. Also we have the SSW incoming which can turn things wild.

     

    Anyway I can't resist but post this Chinese cold wave:

    The -15 (maybe even lower) 850 hPa temp reaching as south as Shanghai! which is around 31-32nd north latitude. Thats as south as middle of Morocco. It is so south that the models showing Europe barely reach this latitude line.

     

     

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  • Location: Corby 130 meters above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Corby 130 meters above sea level
    1 hour ago, Rammie said:

    I'm in northants. Do you see anything over the next two weeks that will give me anything lower than -2c.? 

    I live in Corby seem to do really poor with north winds. Missed out few weeks ago and today and yesterday 

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  • Location: Shoreham-by-sea, West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: T storms, severe gales, heat and sun, cold and snow
  • Location: Shoreham-by-sea, West Sussex
    4 minutes ago, prolongedSnowLover said:

    We had frost yesterday while the Midlands were seeing snow....

    Got low expectations until we see some synoptic changes with deep cold pooling nearby instead of the weak northerlies!

    I've had one air frost at the beginning of December nothing since 

     

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor

    I think the Met Office are jinxing the snow prospects for the South East by issuing yellow warnings as soon as they see a slim chance of snowfall. 🤦‍♂️

    More often than not have the yellow warnings proved not right!

    In future, if we don’t get any yellow warnings for snowfall, we may actually get some snowfall!! 😳

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  • Location: Louth, Lincs
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, frost, thunderstorms and sunny summer days.
  • Location: Louth, Lincs

    I’d hardly call it a cold spell in this neck of the woods. The temperature was 6.5c today and constant rain showers. 

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor
    8 minutes ago, Kevo22 said:

    I’d hardly call it a cold spell in this neck of the woods. The temperature was 6.5c today and constant rain showers. 

    Colder than normal consistently for a few days or more ?

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,hot,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield

    Loving this seasonal weather, near enough perfect in my opinion, not overly cold, still shorts weather for me work wise but fresh enough to feel like winter for a change, not had that for 2 years nearly now. Outlook is also promising....could we be having a actual winter? May have jinxed it i fear!

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  • Location: Near Walsall, West Midlands
  • Weather Preferences: Cold in winter, cool in summer
  • Location: Near Walsall, West Midlands

    Nice fall of snow earlier and now the sky is clear with the moon shining down on the snowfields.  Couldn't look any more seasonal out there at the moment.  Best thing is it's still the time of year with the longest nights and with more cold to come this could be the best winter here since 2012-13, even if it does turn mild for the 2nd half of January.

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  • Location: Windsor
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold
  • Location: Windsor
    7 minutes ago, Simon M said:

    Nice fall of snow earlier and now the sky is clear with the moon shining down on the snowfields.  Couldn't look any more seasonal out there at the moment.  Best thing is it's still the time of year with the longest nights and with more cold to come this could be the best winter here since 2012-13, even if it does turn mild for the 2nd half of January.

    Alright for some!

    totally green with envy as a northerner living in the South! 👎

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  • Location: Cambridge
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy snow & long hot summers
  • Location: Cambridge
    2 hours ago, Deep Snow please said:

    This might be a little bit of a ramp but so what. 

     

    We now have reliable cold other the UK with many areas already seeing wintry showers or full on snow events (2 inches imby and even more in some other areas although starting to thaw a bit earlier). It's the third day of falling or lying snow here, with a potential 4th tomorrow and 5th on Thursday. 

     

    We have reliable time frame cold available on all models going into this weekend, and a potential snow event for the far south tomorrow. We have by far the best synoptic for a prolonged cold and snowy spell since January 2010, with the right lining of the stars I'm now confident that by the 3rd week of January we could have over a foot of snow even to low levels, and long lasting cold to keep it in place with temperatures widely below - 10 in city centres with big UHI's such as Manchester and London. 

     

    This winter will be severe, I can say this with confidence because one of the things that links every severe cold spell in British history is below average flights, naturally with Covid the number of flights has been far below average - indicating that January and February will be severely cold and snowy. Let's enjoy this historic period of weather. 

    Be fun if you were right. But the majority of the UK is more likely to see cold rain and sleet at low levels. The cold repeatedly remains at 10 days, the slack air does not support snow unfortunately and nor does any easterly from a warm continent.

    I like the current synoptics but the reality is we might just have to put this winter down to what-could-have-been.

    Happy to be proved wrong of course. 

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