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  • Location: Morecambe
  • Location: Morecambe

It will all depend on the placement of that deep second low, if it stays near the island of Novaya Zemlya(?) then it will be tough too see ice grow as the winds will be coming in off the sea but if it pulls away towards Russia which is kinda what the GFS hints at then ice may grow as the air will be colder and winds coming in off frozen land. The Arctic high may also help with this eventually but in the main, it's hard too see much ice growth in the kara sea occurring in the near future imo.

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  • Location: Rotherhithe, 5.8M ASL
  • Location: Rotherhithe, 5.8M ASL
12 hours ago, Geordiesnow said:

It will all depend on the placement of that deep second low, if it stays near the island of Novaya Zemlya(?) then it will be tough too see ice grow as the winds will be coming in off the sea but if it pulls away towards Russia which is kinda what the GFS hints at then ice may grow as the air will be colder and winds coming in off frozen land. The Arctic high may also help with this eventually but in the main, it's hard too see much ice growth in the kara sea occurring in the near future imo.

It’s going to become very cold shortly that’s most important, prolonged much colder temperatures are expected the refreeze will be rapid I have no doubt. 

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  • Location: Morecambe
  • Location: Morecambe
28 minutes ago, Daniel* said:

It’s going to become very cold shortly that’s most important, prolonged much colder temperatures are expected the refreeze will be rapid I have no doubt. 

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Aslong as the second low clears then yes I agree with you. The best set ups for ice formation is cold winds from Russia and Siberia and we will see a little bit of that in the next few days. 

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Weekly animation. The Chukchi Sea is quickly filling in and the Bering Sea gained its first substantial ice cover. Growth is slow in most areas, however. Kara is still struggling to gain any ice and continues lowest on record.

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

With an increase of 805,000 km² in the last 6 days, extent has climbed from 2nd to 7th lowest on record. This is the highest position extent has occupied since the 28th of June.

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Volume still comfortably second lowest on record. Most of the difference to 2016 comes from Hudson Bay, with the Arctic seas pretty close overall

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

2020 extent overview gif, split into the freeze to max, melt to min and freeze to end of the year.
Can't seem to upload the gif seperately, (might be too big) so here's the gif in a tweet.

 

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft

Has the DMI been updated for 2021 my link only shows upto end 2020 ?

OCEAN.DMI.DK

Danmarks Meteorologiske Instituts hjemmeside for marin information

 

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
3 hours ago, stewfox said:

Has the DMI been updated for 2021 my link only shows upto end 2020 ?

OCEAN.DMI.DK

Danmarks Meteorologiske Instituts hjemmeside for marin information

 

If you rick click on the image and open in a new tab, and change the 2020 in the url to 2021, you get this:

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  • Location: Morecambe
  • Location: Morecambe

I see the svalbard is lacking in ice again and ice in the Barants looks poor, does make me think there could be a link with Atlantic lows can travel more into the basin when there is open water because there is less severe cold to deflect these low pressure systems away.

Remember last year saw lots of ice around Svalbard  and that ice remained there right into July but still retreated dramatically into July so if that open water does not close, we could be looking at an very early retreat of ice on the Atlantic side come the summer. 

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
6 minutes ago, Geordiesnow said:

I see the svalbard is lacking in ice again and ice in the Barants looks poor, does make me think there could be a link with Atlantic lows can travel more into the basin when there is open water because there is less severe cold to deflect these low pressure systems away.

Remember last year saw lots of ice around Svalbard  and that ice remained there right into July but still retreated dramatically into July so if that open water does not close, we could be looking at an very early retreat of ice on the Atlantic side come the summer. 

Ssssshh, you know who! Svalbard is currently buried under 1km of ice??? Don't mention the thaw!:santa-emoji:

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft

Sorry having difficulty the attached link is just a archive image any got the web link ?

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  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, Snow and Storms
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. - 131 m asl
13 minutes ago, stewfox said:

Sorry having difficulty the attached link is just a archive image any got the web link ?

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Is this what you were looking for?

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I saved it on the N Hem snow and ice thread, so that we have a reference.

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
10 hours ago, stewfox said:

Sorry having difficulty the attached link is just a archive image any got the web link ?

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Use the link that was under the image. It says archive in the url, but it provides the latest temps and updated, but only as a single image. You'll notice it says updated Jan 5, so it's definitely up to date.

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
4 hours ago, BornFromTheVoid said:

Use the link that was under the image. It says archive in the url, but it provides the latest temps and updated, but only as a single image. You'll notice it says updated Jan 5, so it's definitely up to date.

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2021.png

 

Many thanks

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Sea ice in the Barents and Kata have been all over the place recently. Huge variations from one day to the next.

(Animation is too big to upload, so here's the tweet)

 

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  • Location: Skirlaugh, East Yorkshire
  • Location: Skirlaugh, East Yorkshire

Impressive (though not in a good way) how far north of Svalbard the ice edge is. Remarkable for mid-January.

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  • Location: Morecambe
  • Location: Morecambe
6 hours ago, reef said:

Impressive (though not in a good way) how far north of Svalbard the ice edge is. Remarkable for mid-January.

Lack of northerlies hitting Svalbard is perhaps the main reason for this, I guess that could mean less fram export but it does mean Atlantification could be extreme again. It was last summer despite a very extensive ice cover over Barants in winter and spring. 

High pressure looks like being in charge for the foreseeable future, in theory this should mean a build up of ice along the Siberian coastline but looking at the concentrations in the Laptev, the ice does not look thick nor compact too me despite bitterly cold temperatures there at the moment. 

As for the Kara sea, it should look a bit healthier when the wind direction changes in the next few days surely. The Barants sea will be a real struggle though sadly. 

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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine and 15-25c
  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
On 12/01/2021 at 11:36, reef said:

Impressive (though not in a good way) how far north of Svalbard the ice edge is. Remarkable for mid-January.

not really the ice edge was as far north or even further north in 2018,17,16,15,14,13 & 12

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
6 hours ago, cheeky_monkey said:

not really the ice edge was as far north or even further north in 2018,17,16,15,14,13 & 12

Oh well that's alright then?

You have looked at the measures of ice Volume passing through Fram in the 70's,80's early 90's haven't you?

That there once existed a year round 'Ice  Bridge' that hindered ice export? (though 'export it still did!?)

Was it the 'Odenn' ice bridge (help me out folks?)

That is within MY lifetime

In my Dad's lifetime Barentsz was inaccessible even in high summer due to ice conditions (check out the Norwegian Prof, from the late 30's, that attempted such!)

Now we see how much ice is even present there to even be exported (never mind conditions 'Common' in the 70's/80's/90's as the Arctic bled dry of paleocryistic ice!!!)

C'mon now C.M., it's all stained glass windowed up isn't it?

We've done this for over a decade now eh?

How are things now (tied global temp record with a 'Super Nino') compared to back then?

This was never a 'competition', for some it was a way of warning of what we were seeing occur? (& where than would end up?)

That time is done now surely?

We 'Warners' were correct to 'Warn'?

 

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Slow sea ice animation for the last week. Subtle changes overall

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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine and 15-25c
  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
On 14/01/2021 at 15:14, Gray-Wolf said:

Oh well that's alright then?

You have looked at the measures of ice Volume passing through Fram in the 70's,80's early 90's haven't you?

That there once existed a year round 'Ice  Bridge' that hindered ice export? (though 'export it still did!?)

Was it the 'Odenn' ice bridge (help me out folks?)

That is within MY lifetime

In my Dad's lifetime Barentsz was inaccessible even in high summer due to ice conditions (check out the Norwegian Prof, from the late 30's, that attempted such!)

Now we see how much ice is even present there to even be exported (never mind conditions 'Common' in the 70's/80's/90's as the Arctic bled dry of paleocryistic ice!!!)

C'mon now C.M., it's all stained glass windowed up isn't it?

We've done this for over a decade now eh?

How are things now (tied global temp record with a 'Super Nino') compared to back then?

This was never a 'competition', for some it was a way of warning of what we were seeing occur? (& where than would end up?)

That time is done now surely?

We 'Warners' were correct to 'Warn'?

 

no i looked on DMI previous ice extent at the same date in January for the last 15 years

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Sea ice volume remains 2nd lowest on record, 980 km3 above 2017

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Regionally, 2021 is just as bad as 2017 in the central Arctic, but pulls ahead in the other Arctic Ocean seas (Laptev through to Beaufort) and the Sea of Okhotsk.

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

This weeks slow sea ice animation

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

A comparison of sea ice extent for January 24th across different years. The Canadian Atlantic and Bering Sea appear furthest behind, while the Sea of Okhotsk is doing quite well.

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