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  • Location: Morecambe
  • Location: Morecambe

    With climate change, the lows in the Atlantic are definately getting stronger in summer which is why when we get heatwaves, they tend to be quite strong but it can be quite breezy also on them hot days. 

    However when the jett stream is less favourable, those strong lows head for us instead, I really would not be surprised if we do see an increase in the number of days in June and July especially where we see gales recorded in the future. 

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    OK @damianslaw you've tempted me into it.  Mike's forecast for summer 2020: In my view, the building blocks are already built now given the exceptional spring we have had this year in the UK

    Beautiful noctilucent clouds this evening here in Prague 

    This seems to be a facet of our changing climate - in the 1970s and 1980s, it took exceptional synoptics like those of late June 1976 to get temperatures approaching the mid-30s Celsius, and most heat

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam
    On 25/08/2020 at 20:47, damianslaw said:

    Surprised it's doing that well, guess temperatures have kept it up, rainfall  has been above average here and sunshine well below average, perhaps not quite as poor for Manchester. Might the last week notch it down the league a few more places, close to 2011. It's certainly been not nearly as good as 2016 here.

    Temperatures have kept the index up but it shows that above average temperatures don't necessarily make for a good summer

    Worst summers for Manchester

    1954 143
    1907 147
    1956 155
    1912 156
    1924 158
    2012 164
    2008 168
    1987 169
    1946 170
    1909 171
    1931 173
    1978 173
    1980 173
    1920 174
    1923 174
    2007 174
    1927 175
    1948 176
    1938 177
    1922 178
    2011 179
    1985 180
    1958 184
    1972 185
    2020 185 (up to 27th August)
    1916 188
    1986 189
    1965 189
    2016 189
    1910 190

     

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  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
    On 26/08/2020 at 00:36, Don said:

    Don't speak to soon!  I fully agree about it being revoltingly hot when not unsettled, though!

    Okay, with summer over on Monday and no summery weather expected in that time.

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  • Location: Ludgershall, Wiltshire
  • Location: Ludgershall, Wiltshire
    1 hour ago, Nick L said:

    Okay, with summer over on Monday and no summery weather expected in that time.

    Summer will technically be over, but there could still be some very warm weather in September and early October.  I take your point though.

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,hot,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield

    Goodbye Summer Monday, good riddance. Not been a good one at all, far far to hot and humid at times. Found 2018 far more comfortable. And hello to a very welcome friend...Autumn. Best one going by far,better light,feel,comfort. Just hope September doesn't ruin it with heat again. 

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  • Location: Ashbourne,County Meath,about 6 miles northwest of dublin airport. 74m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Cold weather - frost or snow
  • Location: Ashbourne,County Meath,about 6 miles northwest of dublin airport. 74m ASL

    Hopefully an autumn similar to the last 2 yrs . 

    The last 2 autumns have felt seasonal (although  nov 2018 was dire - dull   mild etc )overall compared to a number of autumns in the yrs just before. 

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  • Location: London
  • Location: London
    23 minutes ago, markyo said:

    Goodbye Summer Monday, good riddance. Not been a good one at all, far far to hot and humid at times. Found 2018 far more comfortable. And hello to a very welcome friend...Autumn. Best one going by far,better light,feel,comfort. Just hope September doesn't ruin it with heat again. 

    I think it was a poor summer for sunshine and warmth. It was only very hot for a couple of weeks at the very end of July and gave us what was probably the best august spell since 2013 or 1995. 
     

    It was humid at times, but too many days were cool and cloudy. Some nice days in all the summer months, but May and early June were the best periods for nice long sunny days and evenings. 

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  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and sun in winter; warm and bright otherwise; not a big storm fan
  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl

    As I type it's 13 °C here in Worcs with steady rain. Some may like it and good for them, but to me this is just miserable for August. I just hope this isn't a sign of things to come! I don't expect too much from September, but some nice, peaceful, dry, bright days with temperatures around 20 °C would be very welcome.

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  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Continental winters & summers.
  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
    25 minutes ago, Arctic Hare said:

    As I type it's 13 °C here in Worcs with steady rain. Some may like it and good for them, but to me this is just miserable for August. I just hope this isn't a sign of things to come! I don't expect too much from September, but some nice, peaceful, dry, bright days with temperatures around 20 °C would be very welcome.

    Indeed nothing good about this weather at all. Although it’ll be unseasonably cool, I’m looking forward to a sunny weekend and maybe getting out for some outdoor exercise for a change.

    The gyms opened just at the right time, when it became either too hot or just wet to train outside.

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
    1 hour ago, markyo said:

    Goodbye Summer Monday, good riddance. Not been a good one at all, far far to hot and humid at times. Found 2018 far more comfortable. And hello to a very welcome friend...Autumn. Best one going by far,better light,feel,comfort. Just hope September doesn't ruin it with heat again. 

    I’m really surprised at that. I would have thought summer 2018 would have been unbearable for you! 😱The heat during summer 2018 was much longer lasting than any heat we had this summer. Also the heat occurred during the early and middle stages of that summer when the sun was at its most intense, which made it feel even hotter. An August heatwave never feels as hot to me because the sun is weaker and sets earlier, and our bodies are more acclimatised to heat by then anyway.

     

    Despite summer 2018 being really hot at times, (I’m not a heat lover like yourself) I enjoyed it much more than this “summer”, simply because there was a lot more sunshine and summery weather, nothing worse than cold grey weather in summer - like we have today. It’s just depressing.

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
    1 hour ago, sundog said:

    Hopefully an autumn similar to the last 2 yrs . 

    The last 2 autumns have felt seasonal (although  nov 2018 was dire - dull   mild etc )overall compared to a number of autumns in the yrs just before. 

    Last autumn was terrible - just constant cloud and rain and barely any warmth or sunshine whatsoever. I enjoyed autumn 2018 much better - September 2018 was a bit disappointing but October and November had some pleasant mild sunny weather.

     

    I would love another autumn like 2006, 2011 or 2014.

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
    1 hour ago, Sunny76 said:

    I think it was a poor summer for sunshine and warmth. It was only very hot for a couple of weeks at the very end of July and gave us what was probably the best august spell since 2013 or 1995. 
     

    It was humid at times, but too many days were cool and cloudy. Some nice days in all the summer months, but May and early June were the best periods for nice long sunny days and evenings. 

    Yes, last summer was better for sunshine and warmth (though was just as wet). 

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England

    Was a cold and clear night last night with a few fog patches/low cloud but as soon as I woke up it was overcast and has remained overcast all day, there’s also a nasty autumnal chill in the air too thanks to the lack of sunshine. Horrible weather. So annoying when this happens. I suspect there’s been some aircraft spraying going on...

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
    31 minutes ago, MP-R said:

    Indeed nothing good about this weather at all. Although it’ll be unseasonably cool, I’m looking forward to a sunny weekend and maybe getting out for some outdoor exercise for a change.

    The gyms opened just at the right time, when it became either too hot or just wet to train outside.

    It’ll probably be just like the bank holiday weekend in August 2018, cold and wet on Friday, then dry and mostly sunny at the weekend but very cool. At least it will suit Markyo...

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    So, after a stonking April, a brilliant May, warmish June and August, peeps are still moaning about how 'shocking', 'dire' Summer 2020 has been...Have we been relocated into the Tropics or something?

    Oh, I nearly forgot... the odd month out, July, had a bone-chilling CET anomaly of -0.3C!:oldlaugh:

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
    58 minutes ago, Arctic Hare said:

    As I type it's 13 °C here in Worcs with steady rain. Some may like it and good for them, but to me this is just miserable for August. I just hope this isn't a sign of things to come! I don't expect too much from September, but some nice, peaceful, dry, bright days with temperatures around 20 °C would be very welcome.

    Just chilly and depressingly gloomy here after a cold clear night. Typical!
     

    Yes, that sounds perfect for September. 

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
    7 minutes ago, General Cluster said:

    So, after a stonking April, a brilliant May, warmish June and August, peeps are still moaning about how 'shocking', 'dire' Summer 2020 has been...Have we been relocated into the Tropics or something?

    Oh, I nearly forgot... the odd month out, July, had a bone-chilling CET anomaly of -0.3C!:oldlaugh:

    The CET never tells the full story though. It’s been a cloudy and wet summer overall. July was unseasonably cold here and didn’t even reach 20°C until the final two days. The first half of June was also unseasonably cold with temperatures struggling in the low teens on many days. The first half of August was warm but mostly cloudy here. Last week was okay. This week has left a lot to be desired. There has also been a lot of cold cloudy damp weather, especially in July. 

     

    It may have not been too bad down in the south-east, but up here in the north of England, it’s been one of the worst things I can ever remember. A few hot days does not make up for a poor summer.

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  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Continental winters & summers.
  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
    10 minutes ago, East Lancs Rain said:

    It’ll probably be just like the bank holiday weekend in August 2018, cold and wet on Friday, then dry and mostly sunny at the weekend but very cool. At least it will suit Markyo...

    Yeah probably.

    This would actually be an interesting period of weather in winter. Evaporative cooling taking place today with colder uppers from the north invading tomorrow, then a frosty sunny few days to follow. Alas, it's August, it's 13.5C, and I've got the lights on at 2pm...

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  • Location: Bratislava (240m)
  • Location: Bratislava (240m)

    Forecast to reach 35C this weekend in Budapest but only 29C here thanks to a cold front approaching from the west. I don't think I've been in the sweet spot once this summer. 

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  • Location: halifax 125m
  • Weather Preferences: extremes the unusual and interesting facts
  • Location: halifax 125m
    3 hours ago, East Lancs Rain said:

    I’m really surprised at that. I would have thought summer 2018 would have been unbearable for you! 😱The heat during summer 2018 was much longer lasting than any heat we had this summer. Also the heat occurred during the early and middle stages of that summer when the sun was at its most intense, which made it feel even hotter. An August heatwave never feels as hot to me because the sun is weaker and sets earlier, and our bodies are more acclimatised to heat by then anyway.

     

    Despite summer 2018 being really hot at times, (I’m not a heat lover like yourself) I enjoyed it much more than this “summer”, simply because there was a lot more sunshine and summery weather, nothing worse than cold grey weather in summer - like we have today. It’s just depressing.

    I always reckon that during long hot periods people tend not to complain about the heat anywhere as much as the short spells of heat ,i always put it down to the fact that after a week or so people just get used to it whereas a short spell does not have chance to do that.

     

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  • Location: Northallerton, N Yorks
  • Location: Northallerton, N Yorks

    Here in the NE of N Yorkshire, it has been a poor summer. Aside from a few nice days, it has been noticeable for the lack of sunshine and a lot of rain. A lot to do with the relatively southerly jet stream,  IMO. Indeed, these last few days have taken a turn for the worse with yet more rain and gloom.  Bring back spring!

    David in Northallerton

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  • Location: Skirlaugh, East Yorkshire
  • Location: Skirlaugh, East Yorkshire
    11 hours ago, Weather-history said:

    Temperatures have kept the index up but it shows that above average temperatures don't necessarily make for a good summer

    Worst summers for Manchester

    The summer index has just dipped below 200 here today. The 10 worst summers since 1980 here:

    1998: 212
    1982: 210
    1986: 205
    1988: 204
    2020: 199 (to 27th Aug)
    1985: 199
    1980: 194
    2012: 194
    1987: 174

    The 1981-2010 average is 234 and the best in the list was 2018 with 295.

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  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and sun in winter; warm and bright otherwise; not a big storm fan
  • Location: Bewdley, Worcs; 90m asl
    4 hours ago, General Cluster said:

    So, after a stonking April, a brilliant May, warmish June and August, peeps are still moaning about how 'shocking', 'dire' Summer 2020 has been...Have we been relocated into the Tropics or something?

    Oh, I nearly forgot... the odd month out, July, had a bone-chilling CET anomaly of -0.3C!:oldlaugh:

    CET can sometimes be almost completely useless for ordinary purposes though. A murky, rainy, gloomy day of max 16, min 12 has the same CET as a clear, dry, fresh one of max 22, min 6.

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