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  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Continental winters & summers.
  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
4 hours ago, Froze were the Days said:

Well tropical maritime then - by and large it seems to come from a tropical direction (certainly this month) most of the time either continental or maritime.

All very normal for the time of year.

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  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
  • Weather Preferences: 30 Degrees of pure British Celsius
  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
1 hour ago, MP-R said:

All very normal for the time of year.

Nope!...that's why we're +3c above the CET 1961-90 series, not really normal.

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
2 hours ago, mountain shadow said:

I was being sarcastic.  

Just highlighting the constant rain over here. 

Oh okay. I always struggle to detect sarcasm on the internet.

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England

Well, storm Erin is certainly making her presence known here, strong and very gusty winds, must be gusting to at least 50 mph. Wonder what it’s like on the west coast? Or down in the south east.....?

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
18 minutes ago, Froze were the Days said:

Nope!...that's why we're +3c above the CET 1961-90 series, not really normal.

1961-1990 is not representative of modern times.....

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield
2 hours ago, MP-R said:

All very normal for the time of year.

No its not. The normal has changed, we are experiencing yearly changes in our weather the likes of which are breaking records nearly every year now,not just here but across the globe. Normal has gone. The figures no not lie.

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield
3 minutes ago, East Lancs Rain said:

1961-1990 is not representative of modern times.....

60years climatically  is very representative, its just your perception that is not relative. 

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  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, not too cold
  • Location: Pendle, East Lancashire, North West England
7 minutes ago, markyo said:

60years climatically  is very representative, its just your perception that is not relative. 

Well whatever. I like the warmer weather, you don’t, each to their own.

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: Basically intresting weather,cold,windy you name it
  • Location: sheffield
1 minute ago, East Lancs Rain said:

Well whatever. I like the warmer weather, you don’t, each to their own.

Very true...that's what makes us all different....thankfully!

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  • Location: King’s Lynn, Norfolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and Thundery, Cold and Snowy
  • Location: King’s Lynn, Norfolk.
6 minutes ago, markyo said:

No its not. The normal has changed, we are experiencing yearly changes in our weather the likes of which are breaking records nearly every year now,not just here but across the globe. Normal has gone. The figures no not lie.

August 1976, 1995, 2003 were much hotter than normal too. Weather has and always will bring extremes. Norway had rare July snow this year might I add also. Eastern Europe has had a very cool August too I believe. We need to have an open view of climate, and not just cherry pick. Where one place is hotter, somewhere else will be cooler. E and W Europe usually seesaw each other. Back in 2012 we had a very cool summer, whilst Eastern Europe was breaking records. 

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  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
33 minutes ago, Froze were the Days said:

Nope!...that's why we're +3c above the CET 1961-90 series, not really normal.

That's thanks to tropical continental air earlier in the month. Tropical maritime air is nowhere near as warm in summer.

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  • Location: Redlynch, Wiltshire / 110m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Cold snowy winters, warm springs, hot summers, warm then stormy autumn
  • Location: Redlynch, Wiltshire / 110m asl

The wind is nagging, I'm just glad it is dry (bar some light showery rain earlier).

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  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
  • Weather Preferences: 30 Degrees of pure British Celsius
  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
1 hour ago, East Lancs Rain said:

1961-1990 is not representative of modern times.....

Well its a very good tool if you want to keep track of 'today' and what happened years back...MetO use this on their CET tracker.

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  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
  • Weather Preferences: 30 Degrees of pure British Celsius
  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
1 hour ago, AderynCoch said:

Tropical maritime air is nowhere near as warm in summer.

Really!?! are you talking about your country?...it is in the south and south east of the UK, 26c here yesterday and you feel the humidity at this time of year with the highest SST's.

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  • Location: London
  • Location: London
2 hours ago, markyo said:

No its not. The normal has changed, we are experiencing yearly changes in our weather the likes of which are breaking records nearly every year now,not just here but across the globe. Normal has gone. The figures no not lie.

There’s nothing we can do about it.

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
  • Location: Windermere 120m asl

Current very windy weather a sign of an active hurricane/tropical storm season ahead. 

Turning into a very mixed summer with a bit of everything, bursts of intense heat, thundery outbreaks, heavy outbreaks of rain, dull cloudy cool conditions, but one ingredient missing - pleasant sunny dry days, maxima in low-mid 20s type days.. oh we had them in May I forgot! Watch them return in September!

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam

Summer 2020 definitely reminds me of summer 2004, warmer than average June and August but a somewhat cooler than average July. The July in both summers being particularly poor especially the first half.  Both summers noted for their thunder although SE parts won't agree! 

Both summers had summer gales.  This August doesn't look like it will be as wet the August of 2004 

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  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Continental winters & summers.
  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
4 hours ago, Froze were the Days said:

Nope!...that's why we're +3c above the CET 1961-90 series, not really normal.

Yep. Continental and tropical maritime influence is all very normal for the time of year.

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  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
  • Weather Preferences: 30 Degrees of pure British Celsius
  • Location: Essex Riviera aka Burnham
8 hours ago, reef said:

Quite a surreal feeling day today, its actually rather warm at 22.7C but the wind has been gusting up to 51mph. Feels very strange to have a 'warm' wind.

Last years record breaking hot spell I believe was accompanied by a breezy day or two, I remember the wind blowing at 15mph and the temperature here was 32c...could have been in the Eastern Med.

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  • Location: Darlington, 70m asl
  • Location: Darlington, 70m asl
4 hours ago, East_England_Stormchaser91 said:

August 1976, 1995, 2003 were much hotter than normal too. Weather has and always will bring extremes. Norway had rare July snow this year might I add also. Eastern Europe has had a very cool August too I believe. We need to have an open view of climate, and not just cherry pick. Where one place is hotter, somewhere else will be cooler. E and W Europe usually seesaw each other. Back in 2012 we had a very cool summer, whilst Eastern Europe was breaking records. 

LOL, you are the one who is cherry picking. 

 

The average temperatures are going up all over the world and that's a fact. And this has been going on for at least a couple of decades. 

A snowfall in June in Norway or wherever really doesn't mean anything at all. 

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  • Location: London
  • Location: London
7 minutes ago, mathematician said:

LOL, you are the one who is cherry picking. 

 

The average temperatures are going up all over the world and that's a fact. And this has been going on for at least a couple of decades. 

A snowfall in June in Norway or wherever really doesn't mean anything at all. 

Actually it does.

People will always refuse to acknowledge the colder periods of weather. Edmonton for example has been below average all year, according to Cheeky, and they’ve had a very poor summer. If that part of the world gets minus 20 or 30 this coming winter, and we happen to have 10-13c weather again, some folk on here will tell us the mild weather is alarming.

We live in a temperate zone, and while there appears to be a warming, there’s also a possibility some areas will become colder in the next few years. 

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  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
  • Location: Longden, Shropshire
2 hours ago, Weather-history said:

Summer 2020 definitely reminds me of summer 2004, warmer than average June and August but a somewhat cooler than average July. The July in both summers being particularly poor especially the first half.  Both summers noted for their thunder although SE parts won't agree! 

Both summers had summer gales.  This August doesn't look like it will be as wet the August of 2004 

I don't remember August 2004 having any notable heatwave, just consistently warm and wet with high overnight minima?

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  • Location: King’s Lynn, Norfolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and Thundery, Cold and Snowy
  • Location: King’s Lynn, Norfolk.
39 minutes ago, mathematician said:

LOL, you are the one who is cherry picking. 

 

The average temperatures are going up all over the world and that's a fact. And this has been going on for at least a couple of decades. 

A snowfall in June in Norway or wherever really doesn't mean anything at all. 

This isn’t the first time the average temperature has gone up before is it? I’m pretty sure the averages have been constantly oscillating long before human existence. How am I cherry picking? I’m not denying that we’ve seen some records being broken at the top end of the scale. But What about the coldest December for over 100 years back in 2010? Pretty sure we were told in the 90’s that we were past proper winter cold spells. Snow is very unusual for Norway in July and as above, parts of Canada have been very cool this summer. Did you not know that Australia has seen records broken with cold back in May aswell? 

I think to generalise that the normal has gone is a bit over the top. This year overall has been relatively normal. Infact, this is the first decent August we have had since 2003 I believe. Most August’s of recent times have been abysmally cool. 

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  • Location: manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Summer
  • Location: manchester
54 minutes ago, Don said:

I don't remember August 2004 having any notable heatwave, just consistently warm and wet with high overnight minima?

There was a short hot spell around the 5th that lasted for a few days. The wet was most likely from thunderstorms and some nights not dropping below 19C

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  • Location: Canmore, AB 4296ft|North Kent 350ft|Killearn 330ft
  • Location: Canmore, AB 4296ft|North Kent 350ft|Killearn 330ft

A very autumnal look to the close today...lots of yellow leaves on the ground - which was a bit of a contrast to the mild breezy weather we had. Certainly not something I’m accustomed to in August in the SE 

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