Summer 2020 - Moans, Ramps & Chat

[Coopsy]

14 minutes ago, East Lancs Rain said:

I really hope we don’t break the all time temperature record again, this month doesn’t deserve it at all. If it does you can bet the global warming brigade will say it’s been a scorching summer despite the fact the last four weeks have been significantly below average.

In a weird way it’ll add fuel to the fire IMO. The fact that in an unremarkable, cooler than average summer a one day hot spell could break records is even more alarming  

Edited July 31, 2020 by Coopsy

[thunderpants]

Well, it's blooming hot here already with temps at Boxmoor showing at 31.6c so far with a quite low humidity at 33%, lets see how high we can go before BOOOOM for the lucky few.

[Earthshine]

21 minutes ago, Stabilo19 said:

Shame we can't get -38°C in winter! It's only summer that gets more and more extreme for the UK.

Don't know about that, February 2019 was pretty extreme!

[Relativistic]

13 minutes ago, Coopsy said:

In a weird way it’ll add fuel to the fire IMO. The fact that in an unremarkable, cooler than average summer a one day hot spell could break records is even more alarming  

Interesting parallels to July 1947, well before talk of AGW. A poor month with a few exceptional days of heat at the end. The record for the highest CET daily mean was broken and still holds to this day (joint with 25th July 2019).

Edited July 31, 2020 by Relativistic

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Coopsy said:

In a weird way it’ll add fuel to the fire IMO. The fact that in an unremarkable, cooler than average summer a one day hot spell could break records is even more alarming  

Rather than being a statistical anomaly in an otherwise shoddy month, today's intense heat might well prove to be a precursor to a hot August.

[Coopsy]

^^ That’s interesting and a good counter argument to the global warming debate (of which I’m on the fence) in what was one of the coldest winters on record 

^ I agree I’ve been saying it a while that it was setting up to ‘potentially’ be a hot August. The weather has a habit of counter balancing things in the end. 

[MP-R]

19 minutes ago, Coopsy said:

In a weird way it’ll add fuel to the fire IMO. The fact that in an unremarkable, cooler than average summer a one day hot spell could break records is even more alarming  

On the flip side though, 2018 was a prolonged scorcher and broke no temperature records.

[Timmytour]

31 minutes ago, East Lancs Rain said:

I really hope we don’t break the all time temperature record again, this month doesn’t deserve it at all. If it does you can bet the global warming brigade will say it’s been a scorching summer despite the fact the last four weeks have been significantly below average.

On BBC Weather just now, Thomas S said that temperatures of 33-34C will become commonplace in the next few years.

There's no doubt in my mind that the same thing has been said for the last 30 years!

 

[Man With Beard]

35.7C at Heathrow 1pm, I'm reading

[sundog]

Raining here at the moment, cold front moving through.  Was 23c earlier now 20c. So somewhat cooler over here atm compared to much of England .

Edited July 31, 2020 by sundog

[Earthshine]

Conspiracy theorists are out today it seems.  Regardless, mean temperatures have increased since the industrial revolution.

[Coopsy]

9 minutes ago, MP-R said:

On the flip side though, 2018 was a prolonged scorcher and broke no temperature records.

I’m no  advocate for GW, but to counter that wasn’t 2018 the hottest ever summer for England and the joint hottest for the UK? (Appreciate no individual temp record set) 

Edited July 31, 2020 by Coopsy

[danm]

2 minutes ago, Man With Beard said:

35.7C at Heathrow 1pm, I'm reading

Incredible. Surely, if not the all time record, then the local Heathrow temperature record is under threat? I believe it is 37.9c?

[SqueakheartLW]

1 minute ago, Man With Beard said:

35.7C at Heathrow 1pm, I'm reading

Looks like this is more of a SE England affair than 25th July 2019. Poor old Cambridge which was topping the temperature charts all day last year is way down the list

[sundog]

The dividing line at 1pm.

Edited July 31, 2020 by sundog

[ChezWeather]

Does anyone know where we can access the temperature records for past years? 

[Relativistic]

4 minutes ago, Man With Beard said:

35.7C at Heathrow 1pm, I'm reading

Yes, and second-place Northolt at 34.3C. There's never any competition in the south-east.

[Earthshine]

1 minute ago, ChezWeather said:

Does anyone know where we can access the temperature records for past years? 

Met Office has a page:

UK climate extremes

WWW.METOFFICE.GOV.UK

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UK climate extremes

 

[SqueakheartLW]

1 minute ago, sundog said:

The dividing line at 1pm.

All that clear area over England in particular. Nothing to stop Heathrow getting to 38c at least

[danm]

1 minute ago, Relativistic said:

Yes, and second-place Northolt at 34.3C. There's never any competition in the south-east.

Northolt and London City Airport both registering 35c.

[Relativistic]

2 minutes ago, ChezWeather said:

Does anyone know where we can access the temperature records for past years? 

http://www.torro.org.uk/hightempsyear.php

[Relativistic]

Just now, danm said:

Northolt and London City Airport both registering 35c.

Northolt 34.3C.

[danm]

2 minutes ago, Relativistic said:

Northolt 34.3C.

Netweather live temperatures saying this:

 

[East Lancs Rain]

Stonyhurst in Lancashire is currently 29C at 1 pm.

 

Weather reports from Stonyhurst WMO (99060)

WWW.WEATHERCAST.CO.UK

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A graphical and tabular preparation of weather observations of last week by the WMO weather station from Stonyhurst, United Kingdom (99060). It is updated hourly.

 

[MP-R]

9 minutes ago, Coopsy said:

I’m no  advocate for GW, but to counter that wasn’t 2018 the hottest ever summer for England and the joint hottest for the UK? (Appreciate no individual temp record set) 

Oh yeah quite possibly. What I meant was these heat spikes come in otherwise poor weather setups when there is a kink in the Atlantic train, but people get worried when actually it’s down to the synoptics at the time.