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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
    13 minutes ago, Saint coolio said:

    Can’t bring myself to watch anything that kuenssberg is promoting.

     

    She is a very professional news reporter.

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    I wonder how significant this could be in the short term. Potentially a significant breakthrough if it works Coronavirus: New treatment for critically ill patients to begin as soon as next week

    An appeal to people to remember you are reading posts from people you do not know, you do not know the background of and do not know their motivations - on a weather forum.  If there are concerns

    Yes Matt , I opened my store at 5:45 this morning and left at 8pm this evening , I’m back at 5:45 and walking in to a shell of a shop with new deliveries coming , Having people tell me why I bother op

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
  • Weather Preferences: ☀️
  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire

    Attached image appears to summarise the science behind the UK’s strategy - follow the green curve, not the blue one. It appears to be predicated on the idea that it is better to get the virus to pass through the population (with some delaying mechanism to protect the health service), whilst protecting most vulnerable populations through isolation. The purpose being to create some form of herd immunity and protect ourselves from a future wave of infection (which may be even worse). Self evidently, almost every other country is going for lockdown strategy, the blue curve.

    There are just so many risks with our strategy given lack of clear understanding and data around the disease - it could go catastrophically wrong.

    But even if it is the right approach (highly unlikely IMO), I just can’t see how we can even attempt this now, on our own. Can you imagine the situation in a few weeks time, for example, we we had 100s/1000s of deaths a weeks, and other countries have “managed” to get it under control. We would be in turmoil.

    And imagine if some existing drugs prove effective in treatment - we could have ridiculous numbers of unnecessary sick people and deaths. 

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  • Location: Bedfordshire
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, warm/hot plumes, snow, anything severe
  • Location: Bedfordshire

    Wouldn’t surprise me if the US sees a skyrocketing amount of cases in one day soon.

     

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  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
  • Location: NR LOURDES SW FRANCE
    7 minutes ago, Saint coolio said:

    Attached image appears to summarise the science behind the UK’s strategy - follow the green curve, not the blue one. It appears to be predicated on the idea that it is better to get the virus to pass through the population (with some delaying mechanism to protect the health service), whilst protecting most vulnerable populations through isolation. The purpose being to create some form of herd immunity and protect ourselves from a future wave of infection (which may be even worse). Self evidently, almost every other country is going for lockdown strategy, the blue curve.

    There are just so many risks with our strategy given lack of clear understanding and data around the disease - it could go catastrophically wrong.

    But even if it is the right approach (highly unlikely IMO), I just can’t see how we can even attempt this now, on our own. Can you imagine the situation in a few weeks time, for example, we we had 100s/1000s of deaths a weeks, and other countries have “managed” to get it under control. We would be in turmoil.

    And imagine if some existing drugs prove effective in treatment - we could have ridiculous numbers of unnecessary sick people and deaths. 

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    Well it’s either going to be a government response that will be followed by others in the future if another pandemic occurs or will be seen as the largest ever human experiment which crashed and burned with devastating consequences.

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
    12 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:

    She is a very professional news reporter.

    .Censured formally once by BBC for bias, and sailed damn close to the wind during the latest election if you ask me. I mean she retweeted Dominic Cummings’s blog for goodness sake, directly, with no commentary,

    i don’t care about the politics, but I do want journalists to be questioning policies on this health crisis. 

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
    2 minutes ago, nick sussex said:

    Well it’s either going to be a government response that will be followed by others in the future if another pandemic occurs or will be seen as the largest ever human experiment which crashed and burned with devastating consequences.

    I guess the issue is it will get abandoned part way through and leave us with the worst of both strategies

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  • Location: St rads Dover
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  • Location: St rads Dover
    1 minute ago, Saint coolio said:

    I guess the issue is it will get abandoned part way through and leave us with the worst of both strategies

    Whatever happens, I hope it isn't this. 

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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
  • Weather Preferences: very cold frosty days, blizzards, very hot weather, floods, storms
  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

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    BREAKING - ROYAL RETREAT! Queen quits Buckingham Palace over #COVID19 fears as UK cases hit 1,140 and death toll doubles to 21. Plans are in place to quarantine her and Prince Philip, 98, at Sandringham if the coronavirus outbreak worsens.

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  • Location: Scarborough, North Yorkshire
  • Location: Scarborough, North Yorkshire
    1 minute ago, alexisj9 said:

    Whatever happens, I hope it isn't this. 

    Agree. This is a massive decision coming up

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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
    10 minutes ago, Saint coolio said:

    .Censured formally once by BBC for bias, and sailed damn close to the wind during the latest election if you ask me. I mean she retweeted Dominic Cummings’s blog for goodness sake, directly, with no commentary,

    i don’t care about the politics, but I do want journalists to be questioning policies on this health crisis. 

    I think she's a great journo

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
  • Weather Preferences: ☀️
  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
    3 minutes ago, on the coast said:

    Agree. This is a massive decision coming up

    Me too.

    I think we’re a few days from seeing press storied about the NHS being in crisis through this, the pressure will be too high to not fall into line imho

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    So speaking to a couple of mates who have both been out to do their shopping at 24-hour supermarkets tonight (congleton and stoke), they've literally come back with a few items and said its like the end of the world scenario.

    No bread, no milk, no pasta, no rice, no tins, no crisps, no towels/tissues/toilet rolls, no medicines and packed full of people with trolleys overflowing.

    Off to Sainsburys in the morning, I'm gonna end somebody I can feel it!

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  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow in winter, good sun at other times with appropriate rain.
  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
    20 minutes ago, Zak M said:

    Wouldn’t surprise me if the US sees a skyrocketing amount of cases in one day soon.

     

    With lots of dead people?

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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
    1 hour ago, pip22 said:

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    @lookner Report from ITV that people over 70 in the UK will be required to stay home, not go out, and have no visitors for 4 months

    Peston was on about this earlier. 

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
  • Weather Preferences: ☀️
  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
    4 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:

    So speaking to a couple of mates who have both been out to do their shopping at 24-hour supermarkets tonight (congleton and stoke), they've literally come back with a few items and said its like the end of the world scenario.

    No bread, no milk, no pasta, no rice, no tins, no crisps, no towels/tissues/toilet rolls, no medicines and packed full of people with trolleys overflowing.

    Off to Sainsburys in the morning, I'm gonna end somebody I can feel it!

    People can’t even buy the right things. You want to be getting highly nutritious, long life stuff like smoked salmon

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  • Location: on a canal , probably near Northampton...
  • Weather Preferences: extremes n snow
  • Location: on a canal , probably near Northampton...
    14 minutes ago, pip22 said:

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    BREAKING - ROYAL RETREAT! Queen quits Buckingham Palace over #COVID19 fears as UK cases hit 1,140 and death toll doubles to 21. Plans are in place to quarantine her and Prince Philip, 98, at Sandringham if the coronavirus outbreak worsens.

    Let's Philip get his old bent Range Rover out again for a last blast.

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
  • Weather Preferences: ☀️
  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire

    Bold laundry liquid-purple

    Cheap dishwasher tablets

    Orange juice /apple juice not from concentrate 

    Uncle Ben’s packet golden veg rice 

    Pasta chopped tomatoes 

    Olive oil

    Strong white flour

    Yeast 

    Baking soda

    Cheddar 

    Uht milk or powder

    Eggs

    Butter

    Nurofen

    Coke

    Sliced ham

    Nature valley peanut butter bars

    Peanut butter

    Jam

    Disinfectant 

    Hand wipes 

    Water

    Seltzer water

    Coconut milk

    Canned pipeapple juice

    Food bars

    Pemmican 

    Tang

    Smoked salmon

    Canned fish

    Bouillon 

    Powdered milk

    Whey powder

    Hard cheese encased

    Shredded wheat

    Popcorn

    Potato flour

    Sweet potato flour

    Raisins dried fruit

    Nuts

    Seeds

    Vitamins

    Calcium vit D

    Canned fruit (citrus)

    Canned veg

    Canned Beans

    Retried beans

    Apple cider vinegar

    White vinegar 

    Vodka

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  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
  • Weather Preferences: ☀️
  • Location: Near Romsey, Hampshire
    Just now, Saint coolio said:

    Bold laundry liquid-purple

    Cheap dishwasher tablets

    Orange juice /apple juice not from concentrate 

    Uncle Ben’s packet golden veg rice 

    Pasta chopped tomatoes 

    Olive oil

    Strong white flour

    Yeast 

    Baking soda

    Cheddar 

    Uht milk or powder

    Eggs

    Butter

    Nurofen

    Coke

    Sliced ham

    Nature valley peanut butter bars

    Peanut butter

    Jam

    Disinfectant 

    Hand wipes 

    Water

    Seltzer water

    Coconut milk

    Canned pipeapple juice

    Food bars

    Pemmican 

    Tang

    Smoked salmon

    Canned fish

    Bouillon 

    Powdered milk

    Whey powder

    Hard cheese encased

    Shredded wheat

    Popcorn

    Potato flour

    Sweet potato flour

    Raisins dried fruit

    Nuts

    Seeds

    Vitamins

    Calcium vit D

    Canned fruit (citrus)

    Canned veg

    Canned Beans

    Retried beans

    Apple cider vinegar

    White vinegar 

    Vodka

    That was my preppers list from Feb - ignore the top few though, wife added them!

    just in case it helps... 

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  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow in winter, good sun at other times with appropriate rain.
  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
    6 minutes ago, Saint coolio said:

    Bold laundry liquid-purple

    Cheap dishwasher tablets

    Orange juice /apple juice not from concentrate 

    Uncle Ben’s packet golden veg rice 

    Pasta chopped tomatoes 

    Olive oil

    Strong white flour

    Yeast 

    Baking soda

    Cheddar 

    Uht milk or powder

    Eggs

    Butter

    Nurofen

    Coke

    Sliced ham

    Nature valley peanut butter bars

    Peanut butter

    Jam

    Disinfectant 

    Hand wipes 

    Water

    Seltzer water

    Coconut milk

    Canned pipeapple juice

    Food bars

    Pemmican 

    Tang

    Smoked salmon

    Canned fish

    Bouillon 

    Powdered milk

    Whey powder

    Hard cheese encased

    Shredded wheat

    Popcorn

    Potato flour

    Sweet potato flour

    Raisins dried fruit

    Nuts

    Seeds

    Vitamins

    Calcium vit D

    Canned fruit (citrus)

    Canned veg

    Canned Beans

    Retried beans

    Apple cider vinegar

    White vinegar 

    Vodka

    Stuff you were looking to buy or your purchases?

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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
    1 hour ago, Bristle boy said:

    And 000s of elderly would've died in hospitals here throughout the Winter, massively increased numbers compared to normal. The spike would've been so large there is no way the NHS, health experts, govt would've somehow missed it.

    I just want to add to my post. 

    Anecdotal alert:

    When my dad was admitted to hospital during his last days, nearly 2 years ago, he was immediately diagnosed with suspected pneumonia. When he was transferred to a ward, after about 12 hours in an A&E bed, the main doctor on the ward told us she would test him for influenza, because a number of his symptoms were clear signs of flu.

    Later on the following day she confirmed he had influenza in his body. She was 99.9% sure his pneumonia was influenza-induced. She also told us it is routine testing to look for causes of pneumonia.

    So, any patients admitted to hospital during the winter with pneumonia, for example, would have had further tests done to determine why the pneumonia; many would've been elderly. Those tests would've detected COVID-19, if present. 

    There have been no reports of huge spike in deaths during the Winter months. If COVID-19 had been active it would've showed up and reported.

    So, there is no way these coughs, talked about on SM, that happened in November, December or even January would've been COVID-19, otherwise it would've spread like wildfire much much earlier than now, and the elderly would've been dying in droves.

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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
  • Weather Preferences: very cold frosty days, blizzards, very hot weather, floods, storms
  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

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    BREAKING: Wife of Spain's Prime Minister tests positive for coronavirus

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  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow in winter, good sun at other times with appropriate rain.
  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
    3 minutes ago, snefnug said:

    Dis tang?

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